Opinion of Huey Long

[Scam of God]

Aye.  I agree, he wasn't a socialist.  My mistake.

What happened in the late 60's that made Americans stop enjoying the prosperity caused by the New Deal?

Racial/social issues (including law and order) came to the fore and the New Deal coalition broke apart on wedge issues, heralding the rise of the Conservative coalition that eventually elected Ronald Reagan in a 49-state sweep.

Of course, the pendulum is now swinging backwards again, and it's going to take some time for the full ramifications of that to be felt. Obama is just the beginning, the Nixon-figure in a new alignment; I fully expect to see a left-wing Social Democrat elected in a landslide in the next twenty years.

[Matt Damon™]

The political spectrum in the west is moving towards national populism and emphasizing social solidarity. We're just 5-10 years behind Europe on this.(their left is starting to get even more socially pushy and is just now beginning to drop it's PC while it's right is coming back). Social Democracy as is currently understood is in implosion in Europe, and will implode here too.

[Matt Damon™]

Einzigian rabid atheism is a product of a particular cultural era that's imploding around us.

[12th Doctor]

Even FDR hated him.

why wouldn't he have?  Long was the unofficial leader of non-socialist left-wing opposition to FDR

Long was a bigger socialist than FDR could ever hope to be.  But Long wasn't a real Socialist, he was just a petty demagogue who probably would have tried anything to keep power, but oh wait, that is, in fact, what the vast majority of socialist "leaders" are.

Huey Long was a human sized cockroach, nothing more.  He would have been a dictator if he could have been.  If the wacko theories about FDR having been in on Long's death are true, then all the more praise to FDR.

[k-onmmunist]

FF

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

HP But I am sure your all already new what I thought of him

Aye.  I agree, he wasn't a socialist.  My mistake.

What happened in the late 60's that made Americans stop enjoying the prosperity caused by the New Deal?

Racial/social issues (including law and order) came to the fore and the New Deal coalition broke apart on wedge issues, heralding the rise of the Conservative coalition that eventually elected Ronald Reagan in a 49-state sweep.

Of course, the pendulum is now swinging backwards again, and it's going to take some time for the full ramifications of that to be felt. Obama is just the beginning, the Nixon-figure in a new alignment; I fully expect to see a left-wing Social Democrat elected in a landslide in the next twenty years.

You left out the part where the New Deal created a stagnated and inflationary economy not just in the 1970's but from 1945-1948. If the New Deal created so much prosperity why did the Economy start going down again in 1937 and 1938 after it had begun to climb out of the whole in 1934 and 1935. Shouldn't the New Deal have made it climb up faster?

[© tweed]

Even FDR hated him.

why wouldn't he have?  Long was the unofficial leader of non-socialist left-wing opposition to FDR

Long was a bigger socialist than FDR could ever hope to be.  But Long wasn't a real Socialist, he was just a petty demagogue who probably would have tried anything to keep power, but oh wait, that is, in fact, what the vast majority of socialist "leaders" are.

Huey Long was a human sized cockroach, nothing more.  He would have been a dictator if he could have been.  If the wacko theories about FDR having been in on Long's death are true, then all the more praise to FDR.

again, we can argue about this all day and night and it will get us nowhere.  the factions have to be called something.  I don't think "omg socialists" and "omg big f'ing socialists" are distinctive enough to avoid confusion, but use those labels if you like.

[Scam of God]

HP But I am sure your all already new what I thought of him

Aye.  I agree, he wasn't a socialist.  My mistake.

What happened in the late 60's that made Americans stop enjoying the prosperity caused by the New Deal?

Racial/social issues (including law and order) came to the fore and the New Deal coalition broke apart on wedge issues, heralding the rise of the Conservative coalition that eventually elected Ronald Reagan in a 49-state sweep.

Of course, the pendulum is now swinging backwards again, and it's going to take some time for the full ramifications of that to be felt. Obama is just the beginning, the Nixon-figure in a new alignment; I fully expect to see a left-wing Social Democrat elected in a landslide in the next twenty years.

You left out the part where the New Deal created a stagnated and inflationary economy not just in the 1970's but from 1945-1948. If the New Deal created so much prosperity why did the Economy start going down again in 1937 and 1938 after it had begun to climb out of the whole in 1934 and 1935. Shouldn't the New Deal have made it climb up faster?

You're asking the wrong person. I'm an economic libertarian. That said, I do think the New Deal contributed greatly to the winning of World War II by reading the populace for a command economy. And I also much prefer the New Deal coalition on the whole than to a Reaganite coalition that panders to bumpkins and theocrats of all stripes.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

HP But I am sure your all already new what I thought of him

Aye.  I agree, he wasn't a socialist.  My mistake.

What happened in the late 60's that made Americans stop enjoying the prosperity caused by the New Deal?

Racial/social issues (including law and order) came to the fore and the New Deal coalition broke apart on wedge issues, heralding the rise of the Conservative coalition that eventually elected Ronald Reagan in a 49-state sweep.

Of course, the pendulum is now swinging backwards again, and it's going to take some time for the full ramifications of that to be felt. Obama is just the beginning, the Nixon-figure in a new alignment; I fully expect to see a left-wing Social Democrat elected in a landslide in the next twenty years.

You left out the part where the New Deal created a stagnated and inflationary economy not just in the 1970's but from 1945-1948. If the New Deal created so much prosperity why did the Economy start going down again in 1937 and 1938 after it had begun to climb out of the whole in 1934 and 1935. Shouldn't the New Deal have made it climb up faster?

You're asking the wrong person. I'm an economic libertarian. That said, I do think the New Deal contributed greatly to the winning of World War II by reading the populace for a command economy. And I also much prefer the New Deal coalition on the whole than to a Reaganite coalition that panders to bumpkins and theocrats of all stripes.

Interesting point on WW2. Your response to Deadoman made it seem like you thought that crumbling of the New Deal coalition led to a policy changed that ended the "prosperity of the 60's" While the New Deal coalition broke up in 1968 economic policy didn't change that much untill 1980. So the crumbling of that poltical alliance had nothing to do with economic problems of the 70's cause Nixon didn't realy govern differently from LBJ or Carter. So even if the coalition had survived it would have collapsed when faced with those ecominic conditions. Your response also made it seem like you thought the New Deal created some utopia that only ended cause conservatives got in there and started changing policies.

[Rob]

Freedom Fighter

Is your party affiliation a joke, or did I miss something?

No, it's just a tribute to the Radicals of the Civil War era.

[Lief 🗽]

HP But I am sure your all already new what I thought of him

Aye.  I agree, he wasn't a socialist.  My mistake.

What happened in the late 60's that made Americans stop enjoying the prosperity caused by the New Deal?

Racial/social issues (including law and order) came to the fore and the New Deal coalition broke apart on wedge issues, heralding the rise of the Conservative coalition that eventually elected Ronald Reagan in a 49-state sweep.

Of course, the pendulum is now swinging backwards again, and it's going to take some time for the full ramifications of that to be felt. Obama is just the beginning, the Nixon-figure in a new alignment; I fully expect to see a left-wing Social Democrat elected in a landslide in the next twenty years.

You left out the part where the New Deal created a stagnated and inflationary economy not just in the 1970's but from 1945-1948. If the New Deal created so much prosperity why did the Economy start going down again in 1937 and 1938 after it had begun to climb out of the whole in 1934 and 1935. Shouldn't the New Deal have made it climb up faster?

Because FDR was at his heart a right-winger on economics and tried to balance the budget, causing the economy to contract again.

[MaxQue]

HP. An leftist and American version of Maurice Duplessis.

[Franzl]

massive HP

[Governor PiT]

Great guy. Sacrificed his life fighting the money changers.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Was this thread started to see my opinion of him?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Was this thread started to see my opinion of him?

What do you think?

[Matt Damon™]

Great guy. Sacrificed his life fighting the money changers.

Raus.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Was this thread started to see my opinion of him?

What do you think?

I think that yes, it was created to see my opinion of him.

Then again, as I have said already, I have no opinion of him.

[Psychic Octopus]

Was this thread started to see my opinion of him?

What do you think?

I think that yes, it was created to see my opinion of him.

Then again, as I have said already, I have no opinion of him.

Actually, it wasn't, I just wanted to see if I could bring Bob Dole back to Atlasia.

[Storebought]

The singular most poisonous influence on Louisiana since the aftermath of Reconstruction. Louisiana sits at the bottom of the Southern averages because of the antics of this gimme-watcha-got wealth-hating demogogue.

[7,052,770]

Anyone who votes HP is an HP himself.