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Question: Will Kerry do better commanding the Iraq War than Bush has?
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CollectiveInterest
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« on: September 29, 2004, 04:40:35 PM »
How will Kerry be different? Better? Worse?
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2004, 04:41:28 PM »
He won't get elected, so I can't answer that question
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2004, 05:03:13 PM »
Quote from: Philip on September 29, 2004, 04:41:28 PM
He won't get elected, so I can't answer that question

Are you really that imagination challenged? Do you know the definition of "hypothetical"?
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2004, 05:05:46 PM »
I was being sarcastic. I voted "much worse," not in how he managed it, but because he'd leave before the job was done.
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2004, 05:12:32 PM »
Quote from: Philip on September 29, 2004, 05:05:46 PM
I was being sarcastic. I voted "much worse," not in how he managed it, but because he'd leave before the job was done.

What constitutes getting the job "done"? Is there a realistic plan to get from where we are to "done"? What is it?
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2004, 05:14:48 PM »
Same plan your guy used against us in the Southern Occupation.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2004, 06:52:28 PM »
Quote from: Philip on September 29, 2004, 05:14:48 PM
Same plan your guy used against us in the Southern Occupation.

Are you suggesting Reconstruction is the model the USA should apply to Iraq? How does the Reconstruction model apply to Iraq?
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2004, 08:25:22 PM »
Quote from: CollectiveInterest on September 29, 2004, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: Philip on September 29, 2004, 05:14:48 PM
Same plan your guy used against us in the Southern Occupation.

Are you suggesting Reconstruction is the model the USA should apply to Iraq? How does the Reconstruction model apply to Iraq?

Reconstruction failed because the North lost the will to continue it.  Are you suggesting that what we are trying to acomplish in Iraq will inevitably fail, Philip?
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2004, 08:30:54 PM »
I fail to see how Kerry could do a better job on it at this juncture. I don't see him doing a worse job either. Bush doesn't run daily policy in Iraq, Kerry wouldn't either. He'll probably do about the same unless he can come up with a different long term plan.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2004, 08:47:13 PM »
Quote from: AG Ernest on September 29, 2004, 08:25:22 PM
Quote from: CollectiveInterest on September 29, 2004, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: Philip on September 29, 2004, 05:14:48 PM
Same plan your guy used against us in the Southern Occupation.

Are you suggesting Reconstruction is the model the USA should apply to Iraq? How does the Reconstruction model apply to Iraq?

Reconstruction failed because the North lost the will to continue it.  Are you suggesting that what we are trying to acomplish in Iraq will inevitably fail, Philip?

Is Virginia not a slave-free state today?
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2004, 08:47:44 PM »
About the same.
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2004, 10:56:29 PM »
Worse; he is not committed to the war and for that reason alone he would approach it differently.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2004, 01:16:28 AM »
Kerry is the kind that would turn Iraq into Vietnam 2. I mean, he doesn't even back or support Allawi.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2004, 04:47:25 AM »
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on September 30, 2004, 01:16:28 AM
Kerry is the kind that would turn Iraq into Vietnam 2. I mean, he doesn't even back or support Allawi.

That's because Allawi was an ex-member of Saddam's secret police.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2004, 06:55:55 AM »
Troops will be given accoeding to a foreign poll b yeurope f Kerry is elected.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2004, 08:39:42 AM »
Bush and Kerry debated Iraq.

Did it affect how you perceive Kerry?
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2004, 09:33:00 PM »
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on September 30, 2004, 04:47:25 AM
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on September 30, 2004, 01:16:28 AM
Kerry is the kind that would turn Iraq into Vietnam 2. I mean, he doesn't even back or support Allawi.

That's because Allawi was an ex-member of Saddam's secret police.

He tried to kill Saddam
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM »
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.
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« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2004, 05:05:38 PM »
Quote from: John Ford on October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.

And what should the criteria be for leaving?
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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2004, 05:18:08 PM »
Quote from: CollectiveInterest on October 03, 2004, 05:05:38 PM
Quote from: John Ford on October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.

And what should the criteria be for leaving?

1. The pacification of the countryside
2. The creation of a civil defense force of iraqis that can defend themselves against foreign and domestic threats
3. Establishment of a legitimate consensual government
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« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2004, 05:38:25 PM »
Quote from: UAPE SG exnaderite on September 30, 2004, 04:47:25 AM
Quote from: Senator StatesRights on September 30, 2004, 01:16:28 AM
Kerry is the kind that would turn Iraq into Vietnam 2. I mean, he doesn't even back or support Allawi.

That's because Allawi was an ex-member of Saddam's secret police.

I didn't know that.  This is a great recommendation of him!   We should cancel those pointless elections and give Allawi a free hand in subjugating the country - by traditional Middle Eastern methods.
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2004, 08:17:02 AM »
Quote from: John Ford on October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.

Maybe I'm naive, but I actually believe Kerry when he speaks, and thus don't believe this is his position.
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2004, 09:03:22 AM »
Definitely better, potentially much better

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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2004, 03:53:56 PM »
Quote from: SCJ Nym90 on October 04, 2004, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: John Ford on October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.

Maybe I'm naive, but I actually believe Kerry when he speaks, and thus don't believe this is his position.

NYM -

Isn't a complete withdrawal in four years one of his positions?

For that statement alone, I could not vote for him.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2004, 04:32:26 PM »
Quote from: Mort from NewYawk on October 04, 2004, 03:53:56 PM
Quote from: SCJ Nym90 on October 04, 2004, 08:17:02 AM
Quote from: John Ford on October 02, 2004, 11:02:13 PM
Worse.

He will try to pull out as soon as he can, IMO.  He will declare some kind of "victory" after elections are held and say that we aren't needed there anymore.

Maybe I'm naive, but I actually believe Kerry when he speaks, and thus don't believe this is his position.

NYM -

Isn't a complete withdrawal in four years one of his positions?

For that statement alone, I could not vote for him.

He also said he'd could be out in six months.
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