The problem with many Ron Paul supporters

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

They refuse to admit his faults, and criticize those who bring them up: http://conservativehq.com/blog_post/show/136

[Marokai Backbeat]

The problem with Ron Paul supporters is that they're Ron Paul supporters.

[Lunar]

the second page of comments is more intelligent than the first

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The problem with Ron Paul supporters is they only exist to annoy both parties. Seriously, they go around with a holier than thou attitude, threatening to disrupt conventions and conferences because no one will give their guy a chance to run. Furthermore, the majority of his supporters are lesbians and guys with tight jeans and shaved heads.

[Nixon in '80]

*puts fingers in ears*

LALALALALA I can't hear you LALALALA CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY LALALALA

[RIP Robert H Bork]

*puts fingers in ears*

LALALALALA I can't hear you LALALALA CAMPAIGN FOR LIBERTY LALALALA

That is exactly the problem with many Ron Paul supporters.

[frihetsivrare]

I was a clear Ron Paul supporter during the campaign, but this is one instance where I disagree with him.

[Lunar]

As someone in the comments section said, I wonder what Ron Paul would say about the Constitutional authority for him to place Houston shrimp advertising in an appropriations bill.

[dead0man]

They refuse to admit his faults, and criticize those who bring them up: http://conservativehq.com/blog_post/show/136

Which is different than your typical W and Obama supporters in what way?

[Lunar]

They refuse to admit his faults, and criticize those who bring them up: http://conservativehq.com/blog_post/show/136

Which is different than your typical W and Obama supporters in what way?

I'm pretty sure if the DailyKos called out Obama on a broken, liberal, campaign promise, that people wouldn't quit the site.  In fact, they routinely criticize liberal politicians for not being liberal enough whenever I pay them a visit to observe what the left-wing blogosphere is complaining about these days.

here's a case where Paul was accused of not being conservative/libertarian enough

[dead0man]

Some would.  Are you trying to say Obama fan boys are rational?  You've never seen a W fundie (not many left) go ape sh**t defending W?  There are no blogs out there about Obama full of people acting the same way as these jackasses for Ron Paul?

[Lunar]

That's true.  Good point.  I was amused by the "you've just lost a member" comments most of all.  But yeah, I dare say, I've even seen irrational crazy partisans on this very site.

[Nixon in '80]

Some would.  Are you trying to say Obama fan boys are rational?  You've never seen a W fundie (not many left) go ape sh**t defending W?  There are no blogs out there about Obama full of people acting the same way as these jackasses for Ron Paul?

Paul supporters are by and large the worst in this respect. The cult of personality surrounding him is, proportionally speaking, much greater than the one surrounding Obama, Reagan, or any other politician in recent memory.

This is in no way a reflection of Ron Paul, or libertarians as a whole... simply a number of Ron Paul supporters.

[dead0man]

Some would.  Are you trying to say Obama fan boys are rational?  You've never seen a W fundie (not many left) go ape sh**t defending W?  There are no blogs out there about Obama full of people acting the same way as these jackasses for Ron Paul?

Paul supporters are by and large the worst in this respect. The cult of personality surrounding him is, proportionally speaking, much greater than the one surrounding Obama, Reagan, or any other politician in recent memory.

This is in no way a reflection of Ron Paul, or libertarians as a whole... simply a number of Ron Paul supporters.

Oh, I know.  You never saw me with a Ron Paul sig or heavily pimping the guy have you?  I like him alright, but yes, his fans are nuts.  It's why I don't associate with them, I don't want people think I'm nuts too (errrr...more nuts).  And I'll agree that the average Ron Paul fanatic is a bit nuttier about him than your average Obama fanatic is about Obama.  They have a much bigger hill to climb.  Plus they are all stoned gun owners, do we really want to anger them?

But this attitude isn't exclusive to Dr Paul's supporters, they're just better at it.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

They refuse to admit his faults, and criticize those who bring them up: http://conservativehq.com/blog_post/show/136

Which is different than your typical W and Obama supporters in what way?

I think W supporters could admit his faults.  I've never met anybody who's defended everything W did like some of Paul's supporters I've run into.  Obama supporters have the same fault a lot of times too; however, Obama is relatively new to politics, so I think the amount of people blindly defending him will go down.

[dead0man]

I think W supporters could admit his faults.

Well sure, now they can.  He was a hero to the magnetic yellow ribbon crowd for awhile there.

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Paul may not be new to politics, but he didn't make many mainstream waves until this past election cycle.  I agree with the gist of what you're saying though.

[Lunar]

On the other hand, every reasonably successful third party (which Ron Paul essentially was) movement will depend on some sort of strong cult of personality.

[dead0man]

Aye.  He's just not a very good poster boy.  We need Bruce Willis!

[Lunar]

I was like 5-6 year olds during the first Perot.  But I suspect that Perot, while surrounding himself with whom he was rather than his ideology, was more of a product of:
1) insane amounts of personal money rather than a successful grassroots marketing strategy
and 2) the way things were before the internet. 


I suspect any successful third party/ideology candidate nowadays, especially one who relies on the internet, will have to base a movement on personality.  I doubt a Perot-like candidate (with the same personality) would have done nearly as well in 2012 as he did in 1992.  Any counter-partisan movement inherently requires a magnitude of charisma behind it, otherwise there'd be nothing to distinguish it from previous years!

[Tetro Kornbluth]

No the problem with many Ron Paul supporters is that they support a vile and anti-human ideology and have no touch with reality (other than that pseudo-reality backed up by mysticism a certain branch of economics).

[Democratic Hawk]

No the problem with many Ron Paul supporters is that they support a vile and anti-human ideology and have no touch with reality (other than that pseudo-reality backed up by mysticism a certain branch of economics).

[aaaa2222]

Better than Obama and the massive stimulus bill. I'm a libertarian. Paul was the closest Republican to my views, so I supported him. He's not perfect, but he's the best we've got.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Better than Obama and the massive stimulus bill. I'm a libertarian. Paul was the closest Republican to my views, so I supported him. He's not perfect, but he's the best we've got.

You see - that's what I wish ALL Ron Paul supporters were like.  That was a normal view of Ron Paul.

[SPC]

No the problem with many Ron Paul supporters is that they support a vile and anti-human ideology and have no touch with reality (other than that pseudo-reality backed up by mysticism a certain branch of economics).

I see, so theft and murder are humanitarian?
As for the issue at hand, while I disagree with what he is doing, there is a valid argument for it without him being a hypocrite. I also disagree with him on abortion, immigration, and the Constitution's effectiveness. However, that's still miles ahead of anyone else in politics.

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Ron Paul wants to return the economy to pre Fed, pre-16th amendment times when there was the gold standard. Ron Paul wants you to never read this wikipedia article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression