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War on Want
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Junior Chimp
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« on: March 10, 2009, 07:00:19 PM »

Well, unlike unelected government bureaucrats, the free market has constant oversight exercised upon it, and if the public doesn't like a business' activities, they can "vote" it out of business by not trading with it. Of the hundreds of thousands of federal bureaucrats, Americans only get to vote for 537 of them, and only on a 2-6 year basis. If asked to choose between the "magical" market and the incompetent state, I will go with the former.
Yeah because it is very realistic to expect the hordes of poor that would exist in a liberitarian society to stop buying food and other necessities from monopolies. Roll Eyes

If you are wondering why everyone is arguing against you, it is because liberitarianism is essentially reverting back to humans being uncivilized animals, with no commanding authority except for those who are well off. The problem with my previous statement is that it is an oxymoron and I meant it to be so. Pure Liberitarianism can never happen and never will. There is no such thing as an abscence of authority. It is against modern human nature and can never happen without a destruction of civilization.
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War on Want
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 06:53:30 PM »

If you are wondering why everyone is arguing against you, it is because liberitarianism is essentially reverting back to humans being uncivilized animals, with no commanding authority except for those who are well off.
Totally false.  That is anarchy and is not what libertarians want.
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Why do people keep getting this confused.  Is this like when people confuse socialism and communism?
I am only referring to SPC, who I know is an anarcho-capitalist, when I say liberitarianism. haha I'm not actually dumb enough to think all liberitarians are like SPC. I actually don't think the liberitarianism you believe in is mentally challenged.
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War on Want
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2009, 07:38:42 PM »

Well there is a difference between anarchy and libertarianism. I think SPC is more of an anarcho-capitalists than a libertarian though. Anarchy = no government and no respect for rights of others. Anarcho capitalism = no government, but respect for rights of others. Libertarianism = minimal amount of government to protect rights.

Well, anarcho-capitalism is a smaller branch of libertarianism. The dominant minarchist branch believes in minimal government to protect rights, though I'm skeptical of how that could work in practice, given that every government has a tendency to expand beyond its "limits".

Because we elect Republicrats instead of people who care about the constitution. With the right people (such as Ron Paul), government won't expand. We just need to stop putting the wrong people in, which is easier said than done.

I'm skeptical when the Republicrats give us McCain and Obama and tell us we are free because we get to pick one of them.
One of my many problems with liberitarians is that they often put Democrats and Republicans in the same categories. That is just stupid, we have clear and obvious differences. Statism is not an ideology.
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