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« on: March 07, 2009, 09:35:11 AM »
« edited: March 07, 2009, 11:01:40 AM by DS0816 »

Alright. Let's get to it.…

2012 presidential election:
Barack Obama (D-Illinois), the incumbent vs. Rush Limbaugh (R-Missouri), the challenger.

What will the results of the electoral map look like?
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 09:58:36 AM »

Electoral blowout for Obama. I'm not sure that I need a map.

Limbaugh is a gaffe machine, and what he gets away with with his audience he could never get away with with America at large. He has no legislative record, and the only administrative experience that he has ever had is in his titular role of running his radio show. The "child with a daisy" ad used against Barry Goldwater in 1964 would be even more fitting with Limbaugh.

Limbaugh can easily be cast as a radical and an extremist, especially after his "I want Obama to fail" statement.  To be sure, a conservative has the right to tell Americans that all that was wrong with the American economy was that people lost faith in tax cuts for the rich, cartels, and despotic management and that the solution to economic woes in the aftermath of a financial panic is to relieve the rich of taxes, promote cartels and combinations, and to enable management to do even nastier things to people.  Radicals do not want change within the System; they want the System to fail. So it is with commies who want the collapse of capitalism and with fascists who want people to fear the decay of social order. Sure, he backtracked a little... but too late.

Add to this Limbaugh's documented drug problem -- abuse of prescription painkillers. This man bulled a domestic servant to procure oxycontin on the street. Master of the Universe who can't control himself -- we have seen far too much of that in recent years, and it's hard to believe that we will seek such as leadership for decades again.   
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 10:17:22 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 04:36:13 PM »

It really depends on who is hated more in 2012: Limbaugh or Obama.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 05:10:52 PM »

Not even Utah would be safe....
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 05:13:24 PM »



I think the that correct answer is somewhere in between those 2 predictions.
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 05:28:03 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 05:31:26 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 06:58:01 PM »

Obama wins 50 states and over 60% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 07:20:56 PM »



Obama gets at least 65%, and Republican turnout would be very, very low.
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 08:18:46 PM »

I'm pretty sure Rush would say stupid enough things that Obama would come close to winning every state
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2009, 08:27:56 PM »

How can Obama win Nebraska's two most urban districts and Kansas but not the popular vote in Nebraska. Seriously.

It bugs me when people have Obama winning NE-01 and 02 but not statewide but whatevs.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2009, 08:29:44 PM »

How can Obama win Nebraska's two most urban districts and Kansas but not the popular vote in Nebraska. Seriously.

It bugs me when people have Obama winning NE-01 and 02 but not statewide but whatevs.

It depends on what the percentages are. If Obama loses big in NE-03, and only barely wins in the other two, he would still lose the state.
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« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2009, 09:39:25 PM »

How can Obama win Nebraska's two most urban districts and Kansas but not the popular vote in Nebraska. Seriously.

It bugs me when people have Obama winning NE-01 and 02 but not statewide but whatevs.

It depends on what the percentages are. If Obama loses big in NE-03, and only barely wins in the other two, he would still lose the state.
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Exactly what I was going for.  Perhaps something like this:

1st District: Obama wins 50-49
2nd District: Obama wins 52-47
3rd District: Obama loses 59-39

Assuming turnout in all districts is the same (which I know it isn't), then Obama only gets 47% of the vote statewide.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 03:03:13 AM »


Hmmmm.....is Utah even the most GOP state anymore?  Both Wyoming and Oklahoma went stronger for McCain than Utah, no?

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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 03:17:03 AM »

I think Wyoming probably has the most solid GOP base in Presidential elections.

Oklahoma voted so overwhelmingly Republican this year for obvious reasons. Smiley

Though both Wyoming and Oklahoma have Democratic Governors. It's been a while since Utah has had one (or a Democratic Senator).
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 03:24:31 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2009, 03:24:35 AM »

Wyoming the only state without any Democratic Congressional representation at all I believe.

The GOP doesn't have any in HI, ND, NM, VT, CT, MA, RI
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2009, 04:19:17 AM »

Obama-538
Limbaugh- 0

Popular vote
Obama-68%
Limbaugh-20%
Other-12%
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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2009, 04:47:47 AM »

Obama probably wins every state. The best Rush can hope for is Alabama and a few err... interesting states out west.
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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2009, 11:25:14 AM »

I think Wyoming probably has the most solid GOP base in Presidential elections.

Oklahoma voted so overwhelmingly Republican this year for obvious reasons. Smiley

Though both Wyoming and Oklahoma have Democratic Governors. It's been a while since Utah has had one (or a Democratic Senator).

Yeah, Dems haven't won a Prez, Senate, or Gubernatorial race in Utah since 1980 (Gubernatorial race). That's the longest streak of any state in the nation in voting for one party for all of those offices.
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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2009, 11:51:24 AM »
« Edited: May 12, 2009, 08:49:00 PM by pbrower2a »



Obama        (D)           479    
Limbaugh    (R)               1
Huckabee   (Reform)    58


Assume a third-party defection. Huckabee (the Reform Party welcomes him) and Limbaugh split the white vote in Mississippi enough for Obama to win Mississippi. Obama makes a couple stops in Utah and Idaho to denounce drugs and religious bigotry and ends up getting more votes than either Huckabee or Limbaugh.

Obama makes history as the first Presidential candidate to win by more than 80% in any state (Hawaii) and comes close in another (77% in Rhode Island). NE-03 splits 42-36-22 to give Limbaugh one electoral vote.

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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2009, 12:16:07 PM »

A third party in an Obama - Limbaugh battle would emerge from the center, not the right.  Think Bloomberg.
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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2009, 01:19:40 PM »

Obama would landslide the Josef Stalin of the American Right

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2009, 01:40:50 PM »

Obama would landslide the Josef Stalin of the American Right

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Now, that's an insult for Stalin.
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