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StatesRights
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #76 on:
March 21, 2009, 10:39:12 am »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
They deserved to have their country destroyed without provocation and to incur 10 million civilian casualties?
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 21, 2009, 10:43:06 am »
Quote from: GMantis on March 21, 2009, 10:39:12 am
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
They deserved to have their country destroyed without provocation and to incur 10 million civilian casualties?
Yes, of course!
They were communists! Like our new American President
OSAMA
! Godless and.....ummmmmmmmm.....vodka drinking bastards.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #78 on:
March 21, 2009, 11:52:16 am »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
You really are a sorry excuse for a human being.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #79 on:
March 21, 2009, 12:13:17 pm »
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over
the greatest theat that Russia ever faced,
achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Funny, I fail to note the resemblance between this photo and that one.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #80 on:
March 21, 2009, 12:32:27 pm »
Quote from: Supersoulty on March 21, 2009, 12:13:17 pm
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over
the greatest theat that Russia ever faced,
achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Funny, I fail to note the resemblance between this photo and that one.
Funny, I didn't know that
this
was Stalin's idea.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #81 on:
March 21, 2009, 04:33:15 pm »
Bah....Don't be ridiculous, Supersoulty. Stalin kept Hitler from turning Russia (and perhaps the greater part of the world) into an absolute ruin.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #82 on:
March 21, 2009, 04:55:16 pm »
Quote from: jokerman on March 21, 2009, 04:33:15 pm
Bah....Don't be ridiculous, Supersoulty. Stalin kept Hitler from turning Russia (and perhaps the greater part of the world) into an absolute ruin.
Really? All by himself? (Insert Bertolt Brecht poetry here).
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 21, 2009, 08:32:21 pm »
I view it as a war crime.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #84 on:
March 21, 2009, 09:21:14 pm »
Quote from: GMantis on March 21, 2009, 10:39:12 am
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
They deserved to have their country destroyed
without provocation
and to incur 10 million civilian casualties?
LOL. Stalin was a mass murderer as well. Still a Soviet apologist I see.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 12:57:49 am »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:21:14 pm
LOL. Stalin was a mass murderer as well. Still a Soviet apologist I see.
And yet it wasn't mass murderers that were killed. I guess it's justifiable if it "hurt" Stalin.
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Quote from: Gustaf on October 07, 2010, 07:02:32 am
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StatesRights
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 01:03:08 am »
Quote from: Earth on March 22, 2009, 12:57:49 am
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:21:14 pm
LOL. Stalin was a mass murderer as well. Still a Soviet apologist I see.
And yet it wasn't mass murderers that were killed. I guess it's justifiable if it "hurt" Stalin.
Under your premise killing German soldiers would have been wrong as well.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #87 on:
March 22, 2009, 02:07:52 am »
The Dresden Holocaust is one the worst but least well known atrocities that has been suppressed.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #88 on:
March 22, 2009, 05:03:00 am »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:21:14 pm
Quote from: GMantis on March 21, 2009, 10:39:12 am
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:09:13 am
Quote from: GMantis on March 20, 2009, 02:57:36 pm
You have to understand that for Russians this photograph symbolises the victory over the greatest theat that Russia ever faced, achieved at terrible cost and after the country suffered horrible destruction. I'm not saying that it is the correct attitude, but one must not forget about the historical significance of the picture.
Russia deserved everything it got as well. I feel no sympathy for either the Nazis or Soviets.
They deserved to have their country destroyed
without provocation
and to incur 10 million civilian casualties?
LOL. Stalin was a mass murderer as well. Still a Soviet apologist I see.
You know very well that Hitler attacked the Soviet Union not because Stalin was a murderer, but because he wanted to expand Germany's Lebensraum. Nor did Stalin give any cause for a German attack; he at least confined his mass murders to the Soviet Union and he did everyting possible to dissuade the Germans from attacking.
And if not being happy about the enormous destruction the Germans carried out in the Soviet Union makes me a Soviet apologist, then I'm a Soviet apologist and proud of it.
Quote from: StatesRights on March 22, 2009, 01:03:08 am
Quote from: Earth on March 22, 2009, 12:57:49 am
Quote from: StatesRights on March 21, 2009, 09:21:14 pm
LOL. Stalin was a mass murderer as well. Still a Soviet apologist I see.
And yet it wasn't mass murderers that were killed. I guess it's justifiable if it "hurt" Stalin.
Under your premise killing German soldiers would have been wrong as well.
Killing soldiers and killing civilians are different things, though because they were led by a communist and were Russians, you probably regard their killing as a good thing. Despite your lack of sympathy about the Nazis, you approach them rather closely in sentiment.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 08:42:14 am »
GM, I do not regard the killing of Soviet civilians as a good thing. However, the Soviet Union should have been destroyed by the allies in the same way as Germany was destroyed. The USSR was just as guilty in many was as Nazi Germany of war atrocities. That's why I have little sympathy for the blood letting of the Soviet Army on the eastern front.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #90 on:
March 22, 2009, 11:53:15 am »
So basically StatesRights is saying:
-Stalin killed millions of people in the Soviet Union.
-Therefore when Hitler killed millions of people in the Soviet Union they deserved it.
Not following that.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 11:59:41 am »
You can't follow that? You need to take a break from the drinking my friend.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Reply #92 on:
March 22, 2009, 12:04:46 pm »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 22, 2009, 11:59:41 am
You can't follow that? You need to take a break from the drinking my friend.
And you need to take a break and start behaving like a human.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 12:07:24 pm »
...and your signature is still wrong, btw.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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March 22, 2009, 02:12:48 pm »
Quote from: StatesRights on March 22, 2009, 12:07:24 pm
...and your signature is still wrong, btw.
And you're still not a human.
Go back to the gutter from which you came.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Quote from: Mr. Allan Abraham on March 14, 2009, 02:12:33 pm
There's a statue of Bomber Harris in London. One of these days I intend to do some serious damage to it.
Sad.
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Re: Opinion of the Dresden Bombings
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Quote from: Twisted Firestarter on November 22, 2009, 08:42:47 am
Quote from: Mr. Allan Abraham on March 14, 2009, 02:12:33 pm
There's a statue of Bomber Harris in London. One of these days I intend to do some serious damage to it.
Sad.
I don't see why killing a large amount of civilians and destroying large amounts of architectural landmarks entitles you to having a statue.
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