Gay Marriage/Civil Unions in 10 years

[ChrisJG777]

Isn't the support for civil unions OR gay marriage something like two thirds of the electorate (with one third saying neither)?  Seems like all civilized purple and blue states should have had civil unions by now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

Hmm, we need to see more purple & indigo and less orange, red & yellow on that map if you ask me.  Hopefully the Maine electorate will see sense on this matter, the New Hampshire government actually gets a move on and the Rhode Island government actually gets started.  I'd quite like to see all states in New England legalise gay marriage, and New York for that matter.

Furthermore, one thing that does surprise me is that both West Virginia and North Carolina on that map aren't orange...

[Verily]

Isn't the support for civil unions OR gay marriage something like two thirds of the electorate (with one third saying neither)?  Seems like all civilized purple and blue states should have had civil unions by now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

Hmm, we need to see more purple & indigo and less orange, red & yellow on that map if you ask me.  Hopefully the Maine electorate will see sense on this matter, the New Hampshire government actually gets a move on and the Rhode Island government actually gets started.  I'd quite like to see all states in New England legalise gay marriage, and New York for that matter.

Furthermore, one thing that does surprise me is that both West Virginia and North Carolina on that map aren't orange...

They both have heavily Democratic legislatures that block the use of constitutional amendments (at least on this subject) as wedges.

[Landslide Lyndon]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

Are you jealous because you and Coburn in 2012 can't consumate your relationship?

[Wiz in Wis]

So, ok, per map at Wikipedia... is it really true that only a statue in WA prevents gay marriage... whats the hold up here Dems?

[Wiz in Wis]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

[Landslide Lyndon]

So, ok, per map at Wikipedia... is it really true that only a statue in WA prevents gay marriage... whats the hold up here Dems?

Hey, while we are at it, perhaps you could explain how such a progressive state like Wisconsin passed an amendment banning gay marriage.

[Holmes]

That was when the Republicans had control of the legislature. Funny story, they actually became a minority the same year they passed that.

Lynch said this before signing the bill today:

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[Wiz in Wis]

So, ok, per map at Wikipedia... is it really true that only a statue in WA prevents gay marriage... whats the hold up here Dems?

Hey, while we are at it, perhaps you could explain how such a progressive state like Wisconsin passed an amendment banning gay marriage.

Long story short, dickweed Republicans controlled the state legislature for several sessions, passed the amendment, and the public voted for it in 2006 because the anti-gay forces outspent the equal rights forces 3-1. Not that that excuses the Wisconsin electorate... only one county voted No... Dane, though La Crosse was close.

It is a travesty... same in Michigan... failures of Democrats to come out and fight... too preoccupied by the idea of picking up a house seat in GB and winning the state Senate back.

[Holmes]

Menominee county didn't vote no?

[MK]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

[ChrisJG777]

Isn't the support for civil unions OR gay marriage something like two thirds of the electorate (with one third saying neither)?  Seems like all civilized purple and blue states should have had civil unions by now:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_law_in_the_United_States_by_state

Hmm, we need to see more purple & indigo and less orange, red & yellow on that map if you ask me.  Hopefully the Maine electorate will see sense on this matter, the New Hampshire government actually gets a move on and the Rhode Island government actually gets started.  I'd quite like to see all states in New England legalise gay marriage, and New York for that matter.

Furthermore, one thing that does surprise me is that both West Virginia and North Carolina on that map aren't orange...

They both have heavily Democratic legislatures that block the use of constitutional amendments (at least on this subject) as wedges.

Still, considering that they're rather conservative states you'd have thought that they would've had such things written into their constitutions.  Just goes to show, don't assume everything.

[exopolitician]

Dunno if it's been discussed yet but...

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[Lunar]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

This post originally said "Hopefully I'll be dead in 20 years"

If the gays get married and are federally recognized, what's the point in living anymore!

[MK]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

This post originally said "Hopefully I'll be dead in 20 years"

If the gays get married and are federally recognized, what's the point in living anymore!

Well thats what you want isn't it?

In 20 years I would like to be dead because honestly I'm worried about our country.   Who knows maybe my views will have changed by then, but don't count on it.   

[Franzl]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

Ever heard of a little document called the Constitution?

[Landslide Lyndon]

Well thats what you want isn't it?

In 20 years I would like to be dead because honestly I'm worried about our country.   Who knows maybe my views will have changed by then, but don't count on it.   

[Earth]

Well thats what you want isn't it?

In 20 years I would like to be dead because honestly I'm worried about our country.   Who knows maybe my views will have changed by then, but don't count on it.  

For the life of me, I still don't understand how gay marriage impacts you negatively. Enough with the hysterics, and the drama.

[MK]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

Ever heard of a little document called the Constitution?

Sure.

Gay marriages have nothing to do with the constitution though.   

Great to see we have those who think the government should just take over.  Damned the states rights or the 10Th amendment.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

[Holmes]

Take over what? Are you saying the citizens of the US currently live in anarchy or something?

[Franzl]

I like what Bill O said about this in that its going to happen the liberals states will pass it, and the conservative states wont. End result you turn more people against gay rights then before.

Great a Country divided.

No, a tipping point will be reached, and eventually, even if it takes 20 years, the Federal Government will intervene based on the "full faith and credit clause" and require that all states recognize Gay marriages performed in Gay marriage states. So, Jane and Jill in Montgomery might have to fly to Vegas to get hitched, but Alabama has to recognize it.

Great ideal, the federal government force the states to recognize it.    

Ever heard of a little document called the Constitution?

Sure.

Gay marriages have nothing to do with the constitution though.   

Great to see we have those who think the government should just take over.  Damned the states rights or the 10Th amendment.

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Irrelevant.

Full Faith and Credit Clause:

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[MK]

Liberals using The Full Faith and Credit Clause to force homosexual marriages upon other
states.    Digusting, and will make many people angry which isn't a good thing for gay rights.


Sodom & Gomorrah = The united states in 20 years.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Liberals using The Full Faith and Credit Clause to force homosexual marriages upon other
states.    Digusting, and will make many people angry which isn't a good thing for gay rights.


Sodom & Gomorrah = The united states in 20 years.

Looking forward to it!

[Lunar]

This is why we have to improve our education system.  Some people are still emerging out of it intensely self-unaware

[Tetro Kornbluth]

This is why we have to improve our education system.  Some people are still emerging out of it intensely self-unaware

You can't really teach that though.

[Lunar]

Well, you can create an environment where people don't emerge hilariously so, right?

Maybe it's just a pipe dream