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« on: April 29, 2009, 08:06:36 PM »
Quote from: RowanBrandon on April 29, 2009, 08:03:14 PM
Quote from: JamesS on April 29, 2009, 02:13:26 PM
I hope Scalia and Thomas retire, so obama can appoint activist judges to replace them, so they can legalize gay marriage nationwide against the will of the people.

In many states it would be against the will of the people. Check out the gay marriage bans that passed in 2004.

Should we have waited for interracial marriage?
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2009, 03:19:01 PM »
If only we did interracial marriage that way, amirite?
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 12:19:35 PM »
Well done, Maine Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 01:14:09 PM »
Quote from: px75 on May 06, 2009, 01:09:13 PM
Quote from: XPostFactor99 on May 06, 2009, 12:57:43 PM
Or why Rhode Island hasn't gotten with the program yet?

The fact that it's the most Catholic state in the Union might have something to do with it.

Still, it was the most Democratic state in 2004, wasn't it?
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 01:19:23 PM »
« Edited: May 06, 2009, 01:23:04 PM by AG Marokai Blue »
I believe Hawaii had something similar to civil unions before 1999.

(Edit: And I don't think Hawaii has civil unions now anyway, just some sort of "reciprocal beneficiary relationships" thing they passed in 1997. I'd color it yellow, just to be awkward.)
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 02:48:13 PM »
Quote from: Ernest on May 06, 2009, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: $Dan$ on May 06, 2009, 12:20:03 PM
So Maine is the fifth state to allow gay marriages

No, it is the second to choose to allow gay marriages.  The other three had it imposed on them by judges.  As I've said before, I favor states recognizing gay marriages, so long as it comes to pass via a legislation and not judicial dictatorship.

Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about the courts "imposing" proper civil rights protection and equal values on the population. What travesty! Of course we should have taken our good time in getting rid of segregation and allowing mixed marriages!
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 04:12:09 PM »
Quote from: Holmes on May 06, 2009, 04:06:01 PM
(Sorry to interupt the debate... but New Hampshire's House passed the law just now, 178-167. Smiley)

Where does it go from there?
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 07:21:01 PM »
North Carolina?
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2009, 11:33:15 PM »
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Or why Rhode Island hasn't gotten with the program yet?

The fact that it's the most Catholic state in the Union might have something to do with it.

Still, it was the most Democratic state in 2004, wasn't it?

Massachusetts was.

I'm not sure how I got that mixed up, I could have sworn it was the most Democratic, but you're right. Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2009, 07:42:48 PM »
Gotta love states' rights.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 07:10:26 PM »
Quote from: Holmes on May 15, 2009, 06:50:51 PM
Haha. In states like New Hampshire and Maine, legislators enact marriage equality, and in South Carolina, they do stupid things like that. It shows a regional divide.

Look at this, a 9 year old Denver child organized a rally tomorrow Smiley Cute.

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Awesome and really sweet to hear from a 9 year old!
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 02:12:32 PM »
Quote from: ShadowOfTheWave on May 17, 2009, 02:11:18 PM
Is RI next? That would pretty much wrap up liberal New England.

Rhode Island is like the rusty belt buckle of New England. Even though it's really establishment Democratic, it's heavily Catholic and working-class. It would probably go through, the problem is getting it introduced and the process started.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 11:14:29 AM »
Any black person who opposes marriage rights for gays should have their rights taken away for awhile.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2009, 06:24:46 PM »
Quote from: Alcon on May 19, 2009, 05:54:40 PM
That's a kind of confusingly phrased question...

Welcome to the world of ballot initiatives Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2009, 12:14:11 PM »
Prop 8 upheld.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2009, 08:26:46 PM »
New England loves freedom.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2009, 01:41:58 AM »
Quote from: MK IN GA on May 28, 2009, 01:39:28 AM
Hetero marriage is better for our society therefore "gay" marriage secures nothing in terms of progressing the human race.    It's been proven that a child raised in a father(man)/ mother (woman) household fairs better then one who's not. 

I'm interested in seeing that 'proof.'
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2009, 03:48:20 AM »
Quote from: MK IN GA on May 28, 2009, 03:46:09 AM
Quote from: VP Meeker on May 28, 2009, 03:38:26 AM
Quote from: MK IN GA on May 28, 2009, 02:32:21 AM
Quote from: Lunar on May 28, 2009, 02:16:47 AM
A single mom's sexuality cannot be determined.  Especially if she is adopting a child by herself.


OK...    But I'm comparing the mother who had a child and didn't marry the biological father.   AKA "the single parent home" as they call them.     You are saying that homosexuals can raise children just as good as the traditional mother/father home. I'm telling you NO they can't.

There is no replacement for the mother and father ran home.

My father was a drunk who beat me. My mother worked three jobs to make up for my lazy father and I hardly every saw her. Meanwhile, my best friend was raised by two gay men who held normal 9-5 jobs, always had time for their family, and loved my friend unconditionally.

Which household was it better for a child to be raised in?

Still the heterosexual biological mother and father home.  

Wow.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2009, 05:22:26 AM »
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Quote from: MK IN GA on May 28, 2009, 03:46:09 AM
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A single mom's sexuality cannot be determined.  Especially if she is adopting a child by herself.


OK...    But I'm comparing the mother who had a child and didn't marry the biological father.   AKA "the single parent home" as they call them.     You are saying that homosexuals can raise children just as good as the traditional mother/father home. I'm telling you NO they can't.

There is no replacement for the mother and father ran home.

My father was a drunk who beat me. My mother worked three jobs to make up for my lazy father and I hardly every saw her. Meanwhile, my best friend was raised by two gay men who held normal 9-5 jobs, always had time for their family, and loved my friend unconditionally.

Which household was it better for a child to be raised in?

Still the heterosexual biological mother and father home.  

Such insanity is difficult to fathom.

Not when it's Mike!
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2009, 02:44:23 PM »
You support Civil Unions though, don't you Phil?
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2009, 02:59:45 PM »

Just curious, you seemed like you wanted gay rights to fail in PA from the way you were talking about it, so I wondered if you still supported CU or not. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2009, 04:23:08 PM »
I think Keller is the best argument that could be made for gay couples raising children.
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2009, 03:47:39 PM »
All I can say to that is:

Post of the year.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2009, 03:53:43 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on June 12, 2009, 03:48:39 PM
Quote from: Nutmeg on June 12, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: I'm no NAIL on June 12, 2009, 03:16:42 PM
Obama defended DOMA today, said it was constitutional and marriage is not a fundemantal right. And banning same-sex marriage benefits the federal goverment.

source, plz

http://www.americablog.com/2009/06/obama-justice-department-defends-doma.html


wow

Well, now I officially regret my vote.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2009, 08:26:25 PM »
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