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Question: Should water be considered a public good?
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Yes
 
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Lean Yes
 
#3
Neutral
 
#4
Lean No
 
#5
No
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2009, 09:37:34 AM »

Sure, that could work too (arming the locals).  I don't think it would be as big of an undertaking as it would seem at first.  After the third or forth oppressive govt is toppled, the rest will get in line or try and form together against us.  Either way it leads to the death of more evil.

And no, America couldn't and shouldn't do this alone.  We should create a new world organization that only liberal democracies with free markets can join.  Then start kicking the bad guy ass.  Starting with the easiest.

Yeah, it's not going to happen and there would be lots (and LOTS) of death in the short term and not all of those deaths would be bad guys.  It would be hard and it's not even feasible today or in the immediate future....but assuming it goes well, we could enter a great new era for man.
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« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2009, 01:10:54 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2009, 11:20:19 PM »

Sure, that could work too (arming the locals).  I don't think it would be as big of an undertaking as it would seem at first.  After the third or forth oppressive govt is toppled, the rest will get in line or try and form together against us.  Either way it leads to the death of more evil.

And no, America couldn't and shouldn't do this alone.  We should create a new world organization that only liberal democracies with free markets can join.  Then start kicking the bad guy ass.  Starting with the easiest.

Yeah, it's not going to happen and there would be lots (and LOTS) of death in the short term and not all of those deaths would be bad guys.  It would be hard and it's not even feasible today or in the immediate future....but assuming it goes well, we could enter a great new era for man.

How's that going in Iraq and Afghanistan? I simply don't see how one can justify robbing from people here to overthrow tons of governments overseas, and causing tons of collateral damage in the process. Do the ends of overthrowing murderous regimes justify the ends of robbing killing people? I say no.
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2009, 04:01:09 AM »

The locals won't be flipping nuts everywhere.  How's it going in Japan and Germany?
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2009, 06:54:08 PM »

Missed the vote but Yes. Though there should be controls like not taking water out of its water shed. So no Great Lakes water for the Southwest or other areas.
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2009, 09:28:41 PM »

Sure, that could work too (arming the locals).  I don't think it would be as big of an undertaking as it would seem at first.  After the third or forth oppressive govt is toppled, the rest will get in line or try and form together against us.  Either way it leads to the death of more evil.

And no, America couldn't and shouldn't do this alone.  We should create a new world organization that only liberal democracies with free markets can join.  Then start kicking the bad guy ass.  Starting with the easiest.

Yeah, it's not going to happen and there would be lots (and LOTS) of death in the short term and not all of those deaths would be bad guys.  It would be hard and it's not even feasible today or in the immediate future....but assuming it goes well, we could enter a great new era for man.

Do you realize that some people might not want democracy? Especially after the great example we set in Iraq.
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« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2009, 11:07:36 PM »

I wasn't clear.  We shouldn't force new govts on them.  The locals can have any system of govt they want, as long as they respect the rights of minorities and allow people to leave the country if they want.
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