Sexless love or loveless sex?

[RI]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

That is a terrible, horrible thing to say. You bet you're a misogynist. People with attitudes like yours give men an awful name.

[TeePee4Prez]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

That is a terrible, horrible thing to say. You bet you're a misogynist. People with attitudes like yours give men an awful name.

And I forgot they cost money.

Men who have such soft attitudes will get neither love nor sex.  Ever notice the women with the much bitchier attitudes towards men get more sex?

[Keystone Phil]

Why even deal with females without the sex? 

This is why you are single.

[Keystone Phil]

Ever notice the women with the much bitchier attitudes towards men get more sex?

Awesome. Then they get married and 50% end in divorce.

Try taking your head out of that gigantic ass.

[RI]

Ice Hockey, if all that you care about is sex, the best you'll ever do is to wander from one shallow, meaningless tryst to another. You will end up sad, empty, and alone. You will never know what it is like for another person to truly love you, and I can attest that there is nothing more wonderful in this world.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Why would insanity be brought on any more so by a lack of sex than by a lack of love?

This just tells me where our values are these days. It is very sad.

     Sex is a natural human drive. Love isn't. Of course, sex with love would be far superior than sex without, though if I had to give one up, I know which one it would be.

[Keystone Phil]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

[Mint]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

You're presuming what's empty for you is empty for another person. Anyway I think I'd vote for option 2, but don't hold me to it. Love without sex isn't really that different from a platonic relationship. Friendship with sex isn't that much different from even a lot of 'good' relationships. You really need a mix of both IMO, trying to separate them is just sort of unrealistic.

[RI]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

[Keystone Phil]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

I never said you can't find fulfillment outside of love. It's just so sad how many of you focus on short term, physical satisfaction.

Try living the way you want to live when you get passed the age of 50 or so. Oh, wait. You guys never want to live that long. You die in an ego-gasm in your 30s or 40s.

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

You're presuming what's empty for you is empty for another person.

Are you silly enough to think that sex without love doesn't lead to emotional issues?

[Mint]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

To be honest I haven't dated anyone in several years and no, it's really not much of a loss so far. Then again most people around here are idiots. Maybe I'll feel differently in a year or two.

[Keystone Phil]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

To be honest I haven't dated anyone in several years and no, it's really not much of a loss so far.

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Dude, you're what? 19? Get real.

[RI]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

To be honest I haven't dated anyone in several years and no, it's really not much of a loss so far.

...

Dude, you're what? 19? Get real.

Additionally, dating does not necessarily equal love.

[Mint]

Are you silly enough to think that sex without love doesn't lead to emotional issues?

I think it depends on the person. But on a simple level (re: natural instincts), we don't really 'need' love. It's something that's arisen out of societal expectations plus an extension of natural affections we might feel. Short of castrating yourself or something you are always going to have some kind of sex drive though.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

     Don't get me wrong, I still want to try to find love. I just am suspicious that I can't find fulfillment in teaching kids physics.

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

I never said you can't find fulfillment outside of love. It's just so sad how many of you focus on short term, physical satisfaction.

Try living the way you want to live when you get passed the age of 50 or so. Oh, wait. You guys never want to live that long. You die in an ego-gasm in your 30s or 40s.

     Where did you get the notion that I focus on short-term physical satisfaction?

[Mint]

Additionally, dating does not necessarily equal love.

Obviously.

I'm not saying I have zero interest, just that it's not a huge priority and frankly I'm sort of skeptical.

[RI]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

     Don't get me wrong, I still want to try to find love. I just am suspicious that I can't find fulfillment in teaching kids physics.

I did not mean it that way. I apologize.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

LOL

Yes! My thoughts exactly. What kind of guy gets in a relationship or deals with women at all if not to eventually have sex with them? That's the driving force behind all relationships. If you aren't physically attracted to a person, then chances are you won't want to be in a relationship with them. Why would a guy want to pal around with girls otherwise, unless they are gay and enjoy shopping with them.

Any guy who denies this is simply lying to themselves and all of us. It might be sad, but it's the truth. Why else dothe hot girls have more friends than the ugly ones? Is it because all the hot girls have better personalities? I'd argue the hot ones have less personalities because they don't need them.

[Mint]

...I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women... [snip] Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

I like you but yeah, that's pretty much the definition.

[RI]

     Loveless sex. I'd rather be lonely than driven insane.

Amen, brother!

I'm surprised how many men on this Forum picked Option 1.  Why even deal with females without the sex?  I can name a few exceptions, but for the most part I can't deal with women.  There I said it.  They're caddy, will twist the slightest thing you say against you, sometimes a pain in the ass to deal with in the workplace (few exceptions, of course)... Oh boy, I'm gonna be labeled a mysoginist.

LOL

Yes! My thoughts exactly. What kind of guy gets in a relationship or deals with women at all if not to eventually have sex with them? That's the driving force behind all relationships. If you aren't physically attracted to a person, then chances are you won't want to be in a relationship with them. Why would a guy want to pal around with girls otherwise, unless they are gay and enjoy shopping with them.

Any guy who denies this is simply lying to themselves and all of us. It might be sad, but it's the truth. Why else dothe hot girls have more friends than the ugly ones? Is it because all the hot girls have better personalities? I'd argue the hot ones have less personalities because they don't need them.

I weep for humanity if this truly is the case.

Seriously, your absolutes are both inaccurate and telling. The majorities of males (judging from this thread) may be shallow, immoral, selfish primates, but that does not mean we all are.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

     Don't get me wrong, I still want to try to find love. I just am suspicious that I can't find fulfillment in teaching kids physics.

I did not mean it that way. I apologize.

     It's alright. I do see how my first post in the topic could seem confrontational to Christians.

[RI]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

     Don't get me wrong, I still want to try to find love. I just am suspicious that I can't find fulfillment in teaching kids physics.

I did not mean it that way. I apologize.

     It's alright. I do see how my first post in the topic could seem confrontational to Christians.

My objections do not come from religion. Most Christians would not include me in their circles, though I do consider myself one, albeit very liberally.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I love it when libertarians find total emptiness fulfilling.

     Sorry for being able to find fulfillment outside of love.

Any fulfillment you find outside of love will never last.

     Don't get me wrong, I still want to try to find love. I just am suspicious that I can't find fulfillment in teaching kids physics.

I did not mean it that way. I apologize.

     It's alright. I do see how my first post in the topic could seem confrontational to Christians.

My objections do not come from religion. Most Christians would not include me in their circles, though I do consider myself one, albeit very liberally.

     People can be heavily influenced by ideas while rejecting them. When you live in a society as heavily Christian as the United States, it's easy to accept certain Christian ideas while not believing in the religion itself.

[Hatman 🍁]

Suicide.