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« on: March 28, 2009, 03:15:14 AM »

Emos ecstatic to finally have a legitimate reason to feel oppressed
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note-it's from The Sun so feel free to ignore if it doesn't fit your agenda.
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2009, 04:29:55 AM »

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This doesn't seem like a ban to me. I think it's the Sun being its usual sensasional self, skirting on the border between truth and lies.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2009, 04:47:01 AM »

Yes, clearly The Sun is worse than the Russian govt.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2009, 04:59:00 AM »

Yes, clearly The Sun is worse than the Russian govt.
Well, it's more influential in Britain. And I don't remmember the Russian government ever stating that Bulgaria is a breeding ground for AIDS.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2009, 05:12:35 AM »

And I don't remember The Sun ever restricting websites or banning specific clothing styles, but I don't read everything they print.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 05:17:43 AM »

Yes, clearly The Sun is worse than the Russian govt.

I don't really see why that is relevant? Irrespective of how repressive the Russian government is, the Sun is known for its sensationalism and distortion of facts and it does seem to be twisting the story here slightly. What regulating websites in this context means I am not sure but banning emo and goth fashion from schools and government buildings is hardly the same as outlawing emo and goth altogether. Most schools in the UK have a uniform which means that students couldn't wear emo and goth to school here either; does that make it illegal?
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2009, 05:30:22 AM »

I really don't care that much if Russia wants to stick with their normal authoritarian ways, it's no skin off my teeth.  This was more of a bash on emos than it was on Russia anyway.  Yes, The Sun sucks as do school uniforms and Nanny Statism in general.

You may now return to defending the Motherland by ignoring their faults and bashing sensational news organizations instead.
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 05:53:05 AM »

You may now return to defending the Motherland by ignoring their faults and bashing sensational news organizations instead.

Roll Eyes It's funny, because I thought you were older than me, but I guess I must have been mistaken. As to defending 'the Motherland' (my family is actually Ukrainian, but that is besides the point) you'll note that my original post did make clear that I thought the Russian government was repressive.

Incidentally, this story is eight months old, do we have an update on whether this passed or not? A quick google news search yields no further information on this story, nor does a scan of a few news outlets' websites.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2009, 05:57:15 AM »

It just showed up on Fark yesterday, I should have checked the date.  My mistake.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2009, 09:13:10 AM »

Yes, clearly The Sun is worse than the Russian govt.
Well, it's more influential in Britain. And I don't remmember the Russian government ever stating that Bulgaria is a breeding ground for AIDS.

Everything has to revolve around Bulgaria -_-
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2009, 09:58:49 AM »

Yes, clearly The Sun is worse than the Russian govt.
Well, it's more influential in Britain. And I don't remmember the Russian government ever stating that Bulgaria is a breeding ground for AIDS.

Everything has to revolve around Bulgaria -_-
No, but when I try to gauge the reliability of a source, I like to check first what they say about a subject with which I'm very well acquainted. If (as in this case) their information is absolute rubbish, then I know that I should take their news with a grain of salt (or in the case of the Sun, several truckloads of salt).
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 10:46:11 AM »

This is one of the few good things Russia has done. Those kids that dress in that absolutely retarded fashion not only have absolutely nothing to do with emo, they have absolutely no value or worth whatsoever and deserve all the bullying and beatings they get. Remember my proposal to forcibly shave all their heads?
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2009, 11:21:19 AM »

This is one of the few good things Russia has done. Those kids that dress in that absolutely retarded fashion not only have absolutely nothing to do with emo, they have absolutely no value or worth whatsoever and deserve all the bullying and beatings they get. Remember my proposal to forcibly shave all their heads?

I say draft 'em and put 'em in the military for fun.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2009, 06:30:30 PM »

This is one of the few good things Russia has done. Those kids that dress in that absolutely retarded fashion not only have absolutely nothing to do with emo, they have absolutely no value or worth whatsoever and deserve all the bullying and beatings they get. Remember my proposal to forcibly shave all their heads?

Fascist-MN.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2009, 06:51:56 PM »

This is one of the few good things Russia has done. Those kids that dress in that absolutely retarded fashion not only have absolutely nothing to do with emo, they have absolutely no value or worth whatsoever and deserve all the bullying and beatings they get. Remember my proposal to forcibly shave all their heads?

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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2009, 07:07:57 PM »

I have no problem with dress codes for school, but (public indecency laws aside) I don't like laws banning public dress.  Isn't being social pariahs punishment enough for emos?  Do they really need to be punished by the State?

Why do so many people feel so strongly about these kids anyway?
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2009, 09:21:38 PM »

So will the KGB be going around getting emos into "accidents"?
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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2009, 09:53:21 PM »

Why do so many people feel so strongly about these kids anyway?

Because they have completely bastardized the use of the term emo, which initially had absolutely nothing to do with them.
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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2009, 09:56:51 PM »

Is anyone in this video dressed completely in black? Any guys wearing makeup? Anyone with their eyes covered by hair?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFTh_Lr522k
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2009, 10:46:34 PM »

Is anyone in this video dressed completely in black? Any guys wearing makeup? Anyone with their eyes covered by hair?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFTh_Lr522k

The Get Up Kids ceased to be emo after Four Minute Mile, imo.  still some great stuff on the next three LPs
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2009, 11:23:19 AM »

Why do so many people feel so strongly about these kids anyway?

Because they have completely bastardized the use of the term emo, which initially had absolutely nothing to do with them.

No, most people feel strongly about them because emo are a bunch of whiny suburban kids who bitch about how crappy their great lives are. This describes it well:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=37164179

So damn emo.
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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2009, 12:02:31 PM »

Mind of Mencia. Epic fail.
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2009, 04:42:40 PM »


No, Epic Win - he's dead on about those emo kids. Bunch of posers who dress up in black, dye their hair black, wear makeup, listen to crappy music, and moan about how much their lives suck while they cut themselves and cry.
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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2009, 05:13:15 PM »

Please find me anyone in that video linked above who fits that description.
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2009, 06:12:48 PM »


No, Epic Win - he's dead on about those emo kids. Bunch of posers who dress up in black, dye their hair black, wear makeup, listen to crappy music, and moan about how much their lives suck while they cut themselves and cry.
Absolutley no one does the last part of your statement.
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