Is it safe to say we are living in a post, post-9/11 world?

[Reaganfan]

It almost seems like, with our current President taking cowardly steps, refusing to even reference the War on Terror, closing Gitmo, and other events including changing the idea of calling One World Trade Center "the Freedom Tower"....has the post-9/11 mentality of 2001-2004 worn off? If it has, let's hope our judgment does not become complacent.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

We are post nothing. 9/11 was only a temporary blip in the wider scale of things, the "War on terror" was only a sales pitch and a gimmick catchphrase popular with a certain type of voter, nothing more.

[Holmes]

has the post-9/11 mentality of 2001-2004 worn off?

I think you just answered your question.

[Franzl]

It almost seems like, with our current President taking cowardly steps, refusing to even reference the War on Terror, closing Gitmo, and other events including changing the idea of calling One World Trade Center "the Freedom Tower"....has the post-9/11 mentality of 2001-2004 worn off? If it has, let's hope our judgment does not become complacent.

idiot

[Tetro Kornbluth]

has the post-9/11 mentality of 2001-2004 worn off?

I think you just answered your question.

sshhh.. Don't accuse of Naso of logical consistency.

[Reaganfan]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

[Franzl]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

I repeat: idiot

[Lief 🗽]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

No, we supported John Kerry.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

Naso, do you think in anything else other than trite Hollywood cliches, I mean, come on, there must be a soul - an essense of you - free from such bollocks.

[Holmes]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

You're acting kinda OOC.

[Franzl]

If I weren't familiar with Naso, I'd say the original poster might be under the influence of alcohol, narcotics or a combination of both.

Sadly, I know better.

[jamestroll]

As always, Franzl is  right about a Republican.

[opebo]

Don't get angry at me just because you guys helped elect a coward in the White House. The guy is so whipped.

I'm confused - whipped by what?  A pussy?  A muslim?  I thought he was one of the latter, now you're saying he's one of the former.

Anyway, the concerns you mention are utterly laughable.  I wonder if any dumbasses were still worried about what happened to Franz Ferdinand in 1929.

[War on Want]

This thread is stupid.

[Keystone Phil]

How'd I know this was a Naso thread? Oh, and calling your future boss a coward, Naso? Not wise.

Naso attacks me about something related to Santorum in cinque, quatro, tre, due...

[JohnFKennedy]

Instead of all jumping on the partisan and somewhat inane nature of Naso's post, perhaps we should shift this and ask whether we are living in a world that is culturally 'post-9/11'?

'Postcolonialism' has produced some of the finest literature in history - in my opinion at least - both from the metropole and the periphery; while 9/11 may pale in significance as an 'event' in comparison, do we think that this has had and will continue to have a major cultural impact? I can think of a few works that have been described as being culturally 'post-9/11' - Joseph O'Neill's Netherland, which I admit to not having read so I can't really comment - but is this the dawning of a new cultural and literary movement or is it just - as Gully put it - a 'blip'?

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Instead of all jumping on the partisan and somewhat inane nature of Naso's post, perhaps we should shift this and ask whether we are living in a world that is culturally 'post-9/11'?

'Postcolonialism' has produced some of the finest literature in history - in my opinion at least - both from the metropole and the periphery; while 9/11 may pale in significance as an 'event' in comparison, do we think that this has had and will continue to have a major cultural impact? I can think of a few works that have been described as being culturally 'post-9/11' - Joseph O'Neill's Netherland, which I admit to not having read so I can't really comment - but is this the dawning of a new cultural and literary movement or is it just - as Gully put it - a 'blip'?

In (semi) popular culture (ie. The Cinema; the only one I'm fit to speak about) a dreary drabness has been replaced by... an even drearier drabness and misanthropy which mistakes itself for art. I despair.

[JohnFKennedy]

Okay...so if postcolonialism is perhaps associated with the idea of 'displacement' - somewhat crude I will admit - then post-9/11'ism' would be characterized by despair perhaps?

Personally, I think that the idea of 'post 9/11' is sort of an occidental notion of postcolonialism and that it is more likely to spawn a new wave of western postcolonial writers than it is to spawn its own new cultural discourse.

[Reaganfan]

How'd I know this was a Naso thread? Oh, and calling your future boss a coward, Naso? Not wise.

Naso attacks me about something related to Santorum in cinque, quatro, tre, due...

I respect the President, he is my boss and my President. That aside, I do have my personal opinion.

Phil, don't always assume I will attack you about Santorum.

[YRABNNRM]

I respect the President, he is my boss and my President. That aside, I do have my personal opinion.

You respect him so much that you call him "a coward" and "whipped." Ok...

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

I don't believe that President Obama is personally a coward.  I do believe he espouses a "cowardly" foreign policy.  The best foreign policy is, as Teddy Roosevelt said, to "speak softly and carry a big stick".  I'm afraid we have moved from an era of "Yelling at the top of our lungs and carrying a big stick" to "Speaking softly and carrying a foam nerf bat"  Its sad that we always have to lurch between two ridiculous extreme positions.

[Earth]

This idea that there was a massive cultural shift, or repositioning, to me, is sort of silly. A "post 9/11" world is overstated. Big changes have occurred, no doubt, but to use 9/11 as the delineation point between an "old outlook" to a radically new one is false.

The OP is hilarious. Obama is whipped, but Bush was not? Give me a break.

[Marokai Backbeat]

idiot

I repeat: idiot

[Scam of God]

I don't know anybody that was culturally effected by September 11th, and if you were, you're an effete pantywaist. Or pantywaste. 

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Bin Laden wished he had done as much damage to America as Bush.