Parliamentary Universalism (Motion at Vote)

[Daniel Adams]

Aye.

[Bacon King]

Sure, aye.

[ilikeverin]

Premature, as Purple State hasn't commented, but the sentiment is appreciated

[Purple State]

Premature, as Purple State hasn't commented, but the sentiment is appreciated

At this point I am half ready to just call a motion to end the Convention. We are consistently missing a quorum and it appears that popular sentiment plans on rejecting any Constitution this Convention creates.

[Hashemite]

Aye

Though this proposal, or basically any other proposal which isn't the status-quo has no chance.

[ilikeverin]

Though this proposal, or basically any other proposal which isn't the status-quo has no chance.

Oh, why, I hadn't noticed the tone of debate for the past two months

I just seek to provide Atlasians with a valid alternative to the status quo.  I know they're going to vote it down, but it's wrong to go down without a fight, or at least an informed debate on the subject.

[Hashemite]

Though this proposal, or basically any other proposal which isn't the status-quo has no chance.

Oh, why, I hadn't noticed the tone of debate for the past two months

I just seek to provide Atlasians with a valid alternative to the status quo.  I know they're going to vote it down, but it's wrong to go down without a fight, or at least an informed debate on the subject.

I'm all for it, obviously. But I doubt this convention will even go to its term, as it's becoming increasingly likely (and not an entirely bad idea, seeing how little delegates care and how everybody just wants bad ol' status-quo to win).

[ilikeverin]

Though this proposal, or basically any other proposal which isn't the status-quo has no chance.

Oh, why, I hadn't noticed the tone of debate for the past two months

I just seek to provide Atlasians with a valid alternative to the status quo.  I know they're going to vote it down, but it's wrong to go down without a fight, or at least an informed debate on the subject.

I'm all for it, obviously. But I doubt this convention will even go to its term, as it's becoming increasingly likely (and not an entirely bad idea, seeing how little delegates care and how everybody just wants bad ol' status-quo to win).

Yeah, I agree.

Still, bashing my head against a break wall is hours of fun.  Purple State should be more impartial here and open this to a vote.

[Purple State]

Though this proposal, or basically any other proposal which isn't the status-quo has no chance.

Oh, why, I hadn't noticed the tone of debate for the past two months

I just seek to provide Atlasians with a valid alternative to the status quo.  I know they're going to vote it down, but it's wrong to go down without a fight, or at least an informed debate on the subject.

I'm all for it, obviously. But I doubt this convention will even go to its term, as it's becoming increasingly likely (and not an entirely bad idea, seeing how little delegates care and how everybody just wants bad ol' status-quo to win).

Yeah, I agree.

Still, bashing my head against a break wall is hours of fun.  Purple State should be more impartial here and open this to a vote.

I am fine being impartial, but if this vote won't even reach a quorum I don't want to waste your time and energy with writing up something your peers will neither pass, nor reject.

Perhaps we should close down the current proposals (but keep them on record just in case) and find ways to amend the current Constitution to better serve Atlasia. In the process we could consolidate all current amendment in order to clean the Constitution up, etc.

If you insist, I will be happy to open a vote up and include all those that have voiced their votes already.

[Fmr. Emperor PiT]

     Aye

[ilikeverin]

If you insist, I will be happy to open a vote up and include all those that have voiced their votes already.

I would appreciate that.  Let's let these things come up for a vote before we insist they're dead.

[Purple State]

I bring the following to a vote of the delegates. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. This vote shall last for 48 hours:

Article _: Changing the Constitution
9(1) Any section of this Constitution may be altered, or deleted, or a new section added, by the following procedure:
(i)   A Bill containing the reworded section, or the section to be deleted, or the section to be added must be introduced to the either House of Parliament as a Private Member’s Bill,
(ii)   The Bill may be debated as any other Bill,
(iii)   The Bill shall be voted on by Members of the House in which it was introduced, as any other Bill,
(iv)   If the Bill is passed by that House, it shall be referred to a joint session of the Houses of Congress, in which all members may vote.
(v)   The Bill requires two-thirds of all members to be approved.

9(2) Voting on changes to the constitution, referred to in Section 9(1)(iii) and (v), shall be open for one week.

9(3) The qualification to vote for or against a Bill to amend the Constitution, whether in a House of Parliament or in a Regional Caucus shall be the same as that in Section 2(8 ).

I will be counting the votes already registered by Dan Adamas, BK, Hash and PiT.

[ilikeverin]

Yup

[President Marokai]

Abstain (This is a pointless exercise.)

[Senator MaxQue]

Aye, even if that will not reach the quorum and than the proposition will never pass.

[Purple State]

I won't be available to close the booth tonight. However, at exactly 12:24am EST on June 27, 2009, this vote will conclude, with a 24 hour extension if a quorum is not reached.

[ilikeverin]

I doubt we've reached a quorum; in any case, I'm starting to wonder whether this Convention could even reach a quorum to close itself

[Purple State]

I doubt we've reached a quorum; in any case, I'm starting to wonder whether this Convention could even reach a quorum to close itself

A PM blitz would take care of that. But I hardly want to whip up delegates for every damn motion vote.