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« Reply #450 on: June 05, 2009, 11:26:52 am »
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What comes next? Aren't all relevant articles passed?

I think we just need the misc. carryovers page.


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Article VIII: Loose Ends
Section 1: Continuity of Government and Citizenship

   1. When this Constitution becomes operative it shall replace any Constitution, and amendments thereof, in place prior to it.
   2. At the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, all offices except President shall be vacated. The President shall call immediate elections as outlined in this Constitution.
   3. All those registered voters in Atlasia who vote on the ratification of this Constitution shall remain registered voters under the terms under which they had originally registered.
   4. All Legislation and Judicial Rulings not inconsistent with this Constitution passed prior to the Adoption of this Constitution shall remain in full force, unless superceded by subsequent legislation or Judicial Rulings.

Section 2: Miscellaneous Carry-overs

   1. These Executive Departments are hereby established: Forum Affairs; External Affairs; and Justice. The Principal Officers of these departments shall be Ministers, with the exception of the Department of Justice whose principal officer shall be the Attorney General
   2. The Department of Forum Affairs shall be responsible for administering all elections to the Presidency and the Senate.
   3. The Congress shall have appropriate power via legislation to repeal or amend anything in this Section.

Section 3: Ratification

   1. This Constitution shall become operative upon passage at the Constitutional Convention, which shall require the assent of three-quarters of those delegates present, and ratification by each of the Regions by majorities in public polls that shall last for exactly one week and shall begin within a thirty day period of passage at the Constitutional Convention. All voting shall be by public post.
   2. If the Constitution shall fail to be ratified by one or more Regions, then the Constitutional Convention shall reconvene within a fourteen day period to consider what action, if any, is necessary to remedy those issues raised in a Region's failure to ratify.
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« Reply #451 on: June 06, 2009, 11:32:35 pm »
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I bring the following motions up for debate. I will bring them to a vote in approximately 24-48 hours.

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Article VIII: Loose Ends
Section 1: Continuity of Government and Citizenship

   1. When this Constitution becomes operative it shall replace any Constitution, and amendments thereof, in place prior to it.
   2. At the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, all offices except President shall be vacated. The President shall call immediate elections as outlined in this Constitution.
   3. All those registered voters in Atlasia who vote on the ratification of this Constitution shall remain registered voters under the terms under which they had originally registered.
   4. All Legislation and Judicial Rulings not inconsistent with this Constitution passed prior to the Adoption of this Constitution shall remain in full force, unless superceded by subsequent legislation or Judicial Rulings.

Section 2: Miscellaneous Carry-overs

   1. These Executive Departments are hereby established: Forum Affairs; External Affairs; and Justice. The Principal Officers of these departments shall be Ministers, with the exception of the Department of Justice whose principal officer shall be the Attorney General
   2. The Department of Forum Affairs shall be responsible for administering all elections to the Presidency and the Senate.
   3. The Congress shall have appropriate power via legislation to repeal or amend anything in this Section.

Section 3: Ratification

   1. This Constitution shall become operative upon passage at the Constitutional Convention, which shall require the assent of three-quarters of those delegates present, and ratification by each of the Regions by majorities in public polls that shall last for exactly one week and shall begin within a thirty day period of passage at the Constitutional Convention. All voting shall be by public post.
   2. If the Constitution shall fail to be ratified by one or more Regions, then the Constitutional Convention shall reconvene within a fourteen day period to consider what action, if any, is necessary to remedy those issues raised in a Region's failure to ratify.
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Article I, Section 2 shall hereby read as follows:

Section 2: Formation of the House
1. The House of Representatives, herein referred to as House, shall be made up of fifteen Representatives, each with a term of two months. All Representatives shall be elected by the regions from among their designated regional legislators.
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for the House who has not attained one hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Representative may not hold any other federal or executive office in Atlasia for the duration of their term. A Representative shall not forfeit federal office by the loss of regional office.
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« Reply #452 on: June 09, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »
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I bring the following motions up for a vote. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. The voting shall be open for 48 hours.

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Article VIII: Loose Ends
Section 1: Continuity of Government and Citizenship

   1. When this Constitution becomes operative it shall replace any Constitution, and amendments thereof, in place prior to it.
   2. At the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, all offices except President shall be vacated. The President shall call immediate elections as outlined in this Constitution.
   3. All those registered voters in Atlasia who vote on the ratification of this Constitution shall remain registered voters under the terms under which they had originally registered.
   4. All Legislation and Judicial Rulings not inconsistent with this Constitution passed prior to the Adoption of this Constitution shall remain in full force, unless superceded by subsequent legislation or Judicial Rulings.

Section 2: Miscellaneous Carry-overs

   1. These Executive Departments are hereby established: Forum Affairs; External Affairs; and Justice. The Principal Officers of these departments shall be Ministers, with the exception of the Department of Justice whose principal officer shall be the Attorney General
   2. The Department of Forum Affairs shall be responsible for administering all elections to the Presidency and the Senate.
   3. The Congress shall have appropriate power via legislation to repeal or amend anything in this Section.

Section 3: Ratification

   1. This Constitution shall become operative upon passage at the Constitutional Convention, which shall require the assent of three-quarters of those delegates present, and ratification by each of the Regions by majorities in public polls that shall last for exactly one week and shall begin within a thirty day period of passage at the Constitutional Convention. All voting shall be by public post.
   2. If the Constitution shall fail to be ratified by one or more Regions, then the Constitutional Convention shall reconvene within a fourteen day period to consider what action, if any, is necessary to remedy those issues raised in a Region's failure to ratify.
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Article I, Section 2 shall hereby read as follows:

Section 2: Formation of the House
1. The House of Representatives, herein referred to as House, shall be made up of fifteen Representatives, each with a term of two months. All Representatives shall be elected by the regions from among their designated regional legislators.
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for the House who has not attained one hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Representative may not hold any other federal or executive office in Atlasia for the duration of their term. A Representative shall not forfeit federal office by the loss of regional office.
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« Reply #453 on: June 09, 2009, 10:52:10 pm »
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Yup and Nope (and clarification requested: did mandatory regional legislatures get enacted already?  if so, my vote is still "nope"; I think the people of the regions should be able to choose, or at worst the regional legislators should be able to choose whoever they wish, not just legislators)
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« Reply #454 on: June 09, 2009, 10:57:59 pm »
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Yup and Nope (and clarification requested: did mandatory regional legislatures get enacted already?  if so, my vote is still "nope"; I think the people of the regions should be able to choose, or at worst the regional legislators should be able to choose whoever they wish, not just legislators)

To clarify, regional legislatures are not mandated by this Constitution. This clause would, however, pressure the regions to create legislatures. It would also ensure that a citizen had won a regional office before reaching federal office. I saw it is a win-win maneuver (from my perspective Wink ).
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« Reply #455 on: June 09, 2009, 11:00:51 pm »
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     Aye on the article, abstain on the amendment.
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« Reply #456 on: June 10, 2009, 07:16:31 am »
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Aye/Abstain
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« Reply #457 on: June 10, 2009, 09:58:22 am »
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Aye/Nay
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« Reply #458 on: June 10, 2009, 03:52:54 pm »
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Aye/Nay
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« Reply #459 on: June 10, 2009, 03:55:02 pm »
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« Reply #460 on: June 10, 2009, 04:11:29 pm »

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« Reply #461 on: June 10, 2009, 06:17:37 pm »
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Article VIII: Aye
Amendment: Aye
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« Reply #462 on: June 16, 2009, 12:03:49 am »
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I have been derelict and I apologize. RL gets in the way sometimes.

There is no quorum on the motions. I will leave the voting open for an additional 24 or so hours. If a quorum is not reached by then I will close the voting, reopen it, and PM all of you. So rather than deal with messages, just vote please.
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