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« Reply #200 on: April 21, 2009, 04:39:01 pm »
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Article 2: The Government

Section 1.
1. The head of government of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a Prime Minister.
2. The Government shall consist of the Prime Minister and Ministers.

Section 2: Election of the Prime Minister
1. The Prime Minister shall be elected by the membership of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) after every election to the legislature or after a government has fallen.
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a candidate for the office of Prime Minister who has not attained two hundred (or 150) or more posts, is not a member of Congress, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. In order to be a candidate, a person must be endorsed by 3 other (MPs only/Senators only/both).
4. The body electing the Prime Minister casts their votes in a public thread.
5. If a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, he/she is deemed elected.
6. If no candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast in the first round of voting, the lowest-placed candidate for Prime Minister is eliminated before a second round of voting is held.
7. The conditions in Clause 5 continue until a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, at which time he/she is deemed elected.
8. Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the Prime Minister-elect, in a speech to the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) presents his government's agenda for the parliamentary term.
9. Upon conclusion of this speech, the members of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) vote in a confidence vote to the Prime Minister and his agenda, which requires half plus one of all votes cast to pass.

Section 3: The Cabinet
1. Upon a favourable response from the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) in the confidence vote outlined in Section 1, Clause 8, the Prime Minister names his cabinet [opt: from the ranks of his coalition].
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a cabinet official who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. A Member of Government shall hold no other paid position in a profession, business or on the executive board of a corporation.
4. The cabinet posts will be determined in an organic law following the adoption of this Constitution.
5. The Government is responsible to Congress. Any cabinet member may ask to address the legislature at any time.
6. The Prime Minister may dismiss any Minister at his discretion.
7. A Member of Government may not engage in any activity the nature whereof contradicts the performance of his office.

Section 4: Motion of No-Confidence
1. A Member of Congress may move a motion of no-confidence in the sitting government.
[optional: 2. No Motions of No-Confidence shall be moved during any Federal Election or one week before the end of the Congress' term.]
2. The Member of Congress or Caucus moving the said motion shall have the right to explain his decision before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
3. The Prime Minister or a Person delegated by the Prime Minister shall have the right to oppose the said motion in a speech before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
4. When the conditions set out in Clauses 2 and 3 have been met, the members of the (LH/UH/Both) shall vote for, against, or abstain the Motion of No-Confidence.
5. A Motion of No-Confidence requires the approval of half plus one of all attending voting members.
6. If the (LH/UH/Both) vote a Motion of No-Confidence in the Government, the Government and the Prime Minister shall resign within twenty-four hours.
7. Upon resignation of the Prime Minister, the (LH/UH/Both) shall elect a Prime Minister from the conditions set out in Article

Article 3: The President

Section 1:
1. The head of state of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a President.

Section 2: Election of the President
1. The President shall be elected by the citizens of the Republic of Atlasia in direct elections by secret ballot for a four-month term. The right to elect the President have the citizens who are eligible to vote in election to the Congress.
2. No person shall be President who has not attained 250 or more posts, and is not a registered voter.

Section 3: Powers of the President (largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution)
1. The President shall represent Atlasia in international relations, negotiate and ratify international agreements; he can delegate the power to the Government or, with the consent of the Government, to individual members of the Government to negotiate those international agreements.
2. The President shall sign and veto laws. His veto may be overturned as described in Article 1, Section 3, Clause 2.
3. The President shall appoint justices to the Supreme Court, with the approve of the (LH/UH/both).
4. The President shall award decorations and honors, unless another authority has been delegated by him to do so.
5. The President shall grant pardons and amnesty, mitigate sentences imposed by criminal courts.
6. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
7. The President shall declare a state of emergency by means of a constitutional statute;
8. The President shall announce referendums and Constitutional Conventions.



I don't have the sophisticated constitutional lingo, so feel free to add that in as long as you don't stray from my original intent.
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« Reply #201 on: April 21, 2009, 05:09:46 pm »
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Article 2: The Government

Section 1.
1. The head of government of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a Prime Minister.
2. The Government shall consist of the Prime Minister and Ministers.

Section 2: Election of the Prime Minister
1. The Prime Minister shall be elected by the membership of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) after every election to the legislature or after a government has fallen.
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a candidate for the office of Prime Minister who has not attained two hundred (or 150) or more posts, is not a member of Congress, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. In order to be a candidate, a person must be endorsed by 3 other (MPs only/Senators only/both).
4. The body electing the Prime Minister casts their votes in a public thread.
5. If a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, he/she is deemed elected.
6. If no candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast in the first round of voting, the lowest-placed candidate for Prime Minister is eliminated before a second round of voting is held.
7. The conditions in Clause 5 continue until a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, at which time he/she is deemed elected.
8. Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the Prime Minister-elect, in a speech to the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) presents his government's agenda for the parliamentary term.
9. Upon conclusion of this speech, the members of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) vote in a confidence vote to the Prime Minister and his agenda, which requires half plus one of all votes cast to pass.

Section 3: The Cabinet
1. Upon a favourable response from the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) in the confidence vote outlined in Section 1, Clause 8, the Prime Minister names his cabinet [opt: from the ranks of his coalition].
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a cabinet official who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. A Member of Government shall hold no other paid position in a profession, business or on the executive board of a corporation.
4. The cabinet posts will be determined in an organic law following the adoption of this Constitution.
5. The Government is responsible to Congress. Any cabinet member may ask to address the legislature at any time.
6. The Prime Minister may dismiss any Minister at his discretion.
7. A Member of Government may not engage in any activity the nature whereof contradicts the performance of his office.

Section 4: Motion of No-Confidence
1. A Member of Congress may move a motion of no-confidence in the sitting government.
[optional: 2. No Motions of No-Confidence shall be moved during any Federal Election or one week before the end of the Congress' term.]
2. The Member of Congress or Caucus moving the said motion shall have the right to explain his decision before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
3. The Prime Minister or a Person delegated by the Prime Minister shall have the right to oppose the said motion in a speech before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
4. When the conditions set out in Clauses 2 and 3 have been met, the members of the (LH/UH/Both) shall vote for, against, or abstain the Motion of No-Confidence.
5. A Motion of No-Confidence requires the approval of half plus one of all attending voting members.
6. If the (LH/UH/Both) vote a Motion of No-Confidence in the Government, the Government and the Prime Minister shall resign within twenty-four hours.
7. Upon resignation of the Prime Minister, the (LH/UH/Both) shall elect a Prime Minister from the conditions set out in Article

Article 3: The President

Section 1:
1. The head of state of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a President.

Section 2: Election of the President
1. The President shall be elected by the citizens of the Republic of Atlasia in direct elections by secret ballot for a four-month term. The right to elect the President have the citizens who are eligible to vote in election to the Congress.
2. No person shall be President who has not attained 250 or more posts, and is not a registered voter.

Section 3: Powers of the President (largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution)
1. The President shall represent Atlasia in international relations, negotiate and ratify international agreements; he can delegate the power to the Government or, with the consent of the Government, to individual members of the Government to negotiate those international agreements.
2. The President shall sign and veto laws. His veto may be overturned as described in Article 1, Section 3, Clause 2.
3. The President shall appoint justices to the Supreme Court, with the approve of the (LH/UH/both).
4. The President shall award decorations and honors, unless another authority has been delegated by him to do so.
5. The President shall grant pardons and amnesty, mitigate sentences imposed by criminal courts.
6. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
7. The President shall declare a state of emergency by means of a constitutional statute;
8. The President shall announce referendums and Constitutional Conventions.



I don't have the sophisticated constitutional lingo, so feel free to add that in as long as you don't stray from my original intent.

The only thing I don't like is the secret ballot. I think it would take away the fun in elections.
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« Reply #202 on: April 21, 2009, 05:34:20 pm »
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I would like to also give the President his own legislation slot and the power to dismiss the Parliament every so often. Perhaps once per term. He also needs to be impeachable and have term limits (of course, I know many disagree with that last one).
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« Reply #203 on: April 21, 2009, 05:34:40 pm »
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I agree with Dan...I'm no fan of the secret ballot.
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« Reply #204 on: April 21, 2009, 06:17:46 pm »
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Article 2: The Government

Section 1.
1. The head of government of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a Prime Minister.
2. The Government shall consist of the Prime Minister and Ministers.

Section 2: Election of the Prime Minister
1. The Prime Minister shall be elected by the membership of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) after every election to the legislature or after a government has fallen.
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a candidate for the office of Prime Minister who has not attained two hundred (or 150) or more posts, is not a member of Congress, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. In order to be a candidate, a person must be endorsed by 3 other (MPs only/Senators only/both).
4. The body electing the Prime Minister casts their votes in a public thread.
5. If a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, he/she is deemed elected.
6. If no candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast in the first round of voting, the lowest-placed candidate for Prime Minister is eliminated before a second round of voting is held.
7. The conditions in Clause 5 continue until a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, at which time he/she is deemed elected.
8. Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the Prime Minister-elect, in a speech to the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) presents his government's agenda for the parliamentary term.
9. Upon conclusion of this speech, the members of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) vote in a confidence vote to the Prime Minister and his agenda, which requires half plus one of all votes cast to pass.

Section 3: The Cabinet
1. Upon a favourable response from the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) in the confidence vote outlined in Section 1, Clause 8, the Prime Minister names his cabinet [opt: from the ranks of his coalition].
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a cabinet official who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. A Member of Government shall hold no other paid position in a profession, business or on the executive board of a corporation.
4. The cabinet posts will be determined in an organic law following the adoption of this Constitution.
5. The Government is responsible to Congress. Any cabinet member may ask to address the legislature at any time.
6. The Prime Minister may dismiss any Minister at his discretion.
7. A Member of Government may not engage in any activity the nature whereof contradicts the performance of his office.

Section 4: Motion of No-Confidence
1. A Member of Congress may move a motion of no-confidence in the sitting government.
[optional: 2. No Motions of No-Confidence shall be moved during any Federal Election or one week before the end of the Congress' term.]
2. The Member of Congress or Caucus moving the said motion shall have the right to explain his decision before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
3. The Prime Minister or a Person delegated by the Prime Minister shall have the right to oppose the said motion in a speech before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
4. When the conditions set out in Clauses 2 and 3 have been met, the members of the (LH/UH/Both) shall vote for, against, or abstain the Motion of No-Confidence.
5. A Motion of No-Confidence requires the approval of half plus one of all attending voting members.
6. If the (LH/UH/Both) vote a Motion of No-Confidence in the Government, the Government and the Prime Minister shall resign within twenty-four hours.
7. Upon resignation of the Prime Minister, the (LH/UH/Both) shall elect a Prime Minister from the conditions set out in Article

Article 3: The President

Section 1:
1. The head of state of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a President.

Section 2: Election of the President
1. The President shall be elected by the citizens of the Republic of Atlasia in direct elections by secret ballot for a four-month term. The right to elect the President have the citizens who are eligible to vote in election to the Congress.
2. No person shall be President who has not attained 250 or more posts, and is not a registered voter.

Section 3: Powers of the President (largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution)
1. The President shall represent Atlasia in international relations, negotiate and ratify international agreements; he can delegate the power to the Government or, with the consent of the Government, to individual members of the Government to negotiate those international agreements.
2. The President shall sign and veto laws. His veto may be overturned as described in Article 1, Section 3, Clause 2.
3. The President shall appoint justices to the Supreme Court, with the approve of the (LH/UH/both).
4. The President shall award decorations and honors, unless another authority has been delegated by him to do so.
5. The President shall grant pardons and amnesty, mitigate sentences imposed by criminal courts.
6. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
7. The President shall declare a state of emergency by means of a constitutional statute;
8. The President shall announce referendums and Constitutional Conventions.



I don't have the sophisticated constitutional lingo, so feel free to add that in as long as you don't stray from my original intent.

The only thing I don't like is the secret ballot. I think it would take away the fun in elections.

Thanks for noticing. Secret ballot was a typo, I just copied that stuff from the current constitution, and it looks like it read "secret ballot" for some reason. Sorry for the confusion, I'm no fan of secret ballot either!

I would like to also give the President his own legislation slot and the power to dismiss the Parliament every so often. Perhaps once per term. He also needs to be impeachable and have term limits (of course, I know many disagree with that last one).

I have no qualms with presidential term limits (emphasis on presidential) and impeachment. If we give the Prez dissolution powers, we need to decide if it dissolves the whole Congress or just one house. I recommend that these dissolution powers be significantly guided and scripted to occur only in special circumstances (ministerial crises).

Since this is a parliamentary regime we're proposing, slots for legislation need to be given in priority to the government parties, the opposition, and a few for PMBs. Whatever is left can be given to the Prez.

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« Reply #205 on: April 21, 2009, 09:23:05 pm »
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Term limits = Sad
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« Reply #206 on: April 21, 2009, 09:45:14 pm »
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Term limits = Sad

     Aye. Kids, just say no to term limits.
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« Reply #207 on: April 22, 2009, 12:53:44 pm »
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What about consecutive term limits?
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« Reply #208 on: April 22, 2009, 07:21:22 pm »
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What about consecutive term limits?

     If someone wants to run & is otherwise eligible, to forbid them that right is undemocratic.
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« Reply #209 on: April 22, 2009, 07:23:00 pm »
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I believe in term limits... I call them "elections"
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« Reply #210 on: April 22, 2009, 07:38:57 pm »
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Revised.

Article 3: The President

Section 1:
1. The head of state of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a President.

Section 2: Election of the President
1. The President shall be elected by the citizens of the Republic of Atlasia in direct elections by public vote for a four-month term. The right to elect the President have the citizens who are eligible to vote in election to the Congress.
2. No person shall be President who has not attained 250 or more posts, and is not a registered voter.

Section 3: Powers of the President (largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution)
1. The President shall represent Atlasia in international relations, negotiate and ratify international agreements; he can delegate the power to the Government or, with the consent of the Government, to individual members of the Government to negotiate those international agreements.
2. The President shall sign and veto laws. His veto may be overturned as described in Article 1, Section 3, Clause 2.
3. The President shall appoint justices to the Supreme Court, with the approve of the (LH/UH/both).
4. The President shall award decorations and honors, unless another authority has been delegated by him to do so.
5. The President shall grant pardons and amnesty, mitigate sentences imposed by criminal courts.
6. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
7. The President shall declare a state of emergency by means of a constitutional statute;
8. The President shall announce referendums and Constitutional Conventions.

Section 4: Vacancy
1. If the Presidency shall ever fall vacant, the President of the Senate shall become President and new elections for President will be held within one month. If the Presidency of the Senate is also vacant, then the Speaker of the House shall become President and new elections for President will be held within one month.

I think stuff on impeachment are better under Article I (Legislature).
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« Reply #211 on: April 22, 2009, 07:49:57 pm »
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What about consecutive term limits?

     If someone wants to run & is otherwise eligible, to forbid them that right is undemocratic.

I agree in principle, but I don't see the problem with forbidding people from holding a certain number of consecutive terms. It gets more people involved in the game, if there's too many people getting elected over and over.

I'm fine either way honestly, but I can see the fairness in consecutive term limits as a tool to increase participation if necessary
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« Reply #212 on: April 22, 2009, 07:54:30 pm »
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What about consecutive term limits?

     If someone wants to run & is otherwise eligible, to forbid them that right is undemocratic.

I agree in principle, but I don't see the problem with forbidding people from holding a certain number of consecutive terms. It gets more people involved in the game, if there's too many people getting elected over and over.
Marokai is right. I think it is important that we remember this is a game, not real life, and therefore encouraging activity is sometimes more important than adhering to real-world political principles. Some sort of term-limits would get more people involved and wouldn't be too much of an encroachment on political rights.
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« Reply #213 on: April 22, 2009, 09:25:16 pm »
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Purple State, can we go ahead and put the first three Articles together and have a vote on them to get things moving alone.
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« Reply #214 on: April 22, 2009, 09:29:45 pm »
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I agree with Daniel. Why I'm strongly opposed to term limits in real life, this is a game, and they think they serve a purpose here.
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Article 1: The Congress of Atlasia

Section 1: Formation of the Senate
1. The Senate shall be composed of five Senators, each with a term of six months. All Senators shall be elected from the Regions. ( If we have three regions then one from each region and two at-large)
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for Senate who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Senator may not hold any other public office in Atlasia for the duration of their term.
3. The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore, who shall act as President of the Senate in the absence of the President and who shall manage the everyday business of the Senate.
4. The President of the Republic of Atlasia shall be the President of the Senate, but shall have no vote unless they be equally divided.

Section 2: Formation of the House
1. The House of Representatives, herein referred to as House, shall be made up of fifteen Represtatives, each with a term of two months. All Representatives shall be elected from the Regions. (If we have three regions then three from each region and six at-large)
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for the House who has not attained one hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Representative may not hold any other federal or executive office in Atlasia for the duration of their term.
3. The House shall elect a Speaker of the House who shall be responsible for chairing debate that occurs within the House and for managing every day business.

Section 3: Congressional Rules and Legislation
1. The separate chambers of Congress may establish their own rules of procedure, and with the concurrence of two-thirds of its number, respectively, may expel a member of the same chamber.
2. Each chamber shall have fulfilled a quorum if a majority of its members are capable of discharging their offices and sworn into office. A quorum in each chamber shall have voted on any Resolution, Bill, Impeachment or Constitutional Amendment for it to be considered valid.
3. For any Bill or Resolution to pass the Congress, it shall have gained a majority in a valid vote in each respective chamber. Before the Bill or Resolution becomes Law, it shall be presented to the PPT, Speaker, and sponsors of the Bill or Resolution from each chamber for conference, unless it be concerning the rules for the proceedings of a chamber. Upon resolution of any differences between the separate versions of legislation, the Bill or Resolution shall be returned to both chambers for approval. If passed by both chambers separately, the revised Bill or Resolution shall then be presented to the President of the Republic of Atlasia. If the President approves, he shall sign it, and it shall become Law. If the President does not approve, he shall return the Bill with his objections to the Congress, and it shall not become Law. Upon reconsidering the Bill, if each chamber shall approve the legislation by two-thirds of its number, it shall become Law. If a Bill is not returned to the Congress by the President within seven days after it shall have been presented to him, it shall become Law regardless.

Section 4: Elections to Congress
1. Elections for the Senate shall be held in the months of January and July; Elections for the House shall be held on every odd numbered month of the year.
2. Elections shall be held from midnight Eastern Standard Time on the third Friday of a given month and shall conclude exactly 72 hours later.
3. If a vacancy shall occur in the House, then the Governor of that Representative's Region shall appoint a person to fill the remainder of that term.
4. If a vacancy shall occur in the Senate, then a special election shall be called to fill the remainder of the vacated term within one week of the vacancy occurring; Such special election shall be held from midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Friday and shall conclude exactly 72 hours later. However, if a vacancy shall occur when there is a person due to assume that office within two weeks, then no special election shall be necessary.
5. The Senate shall have necessary power to determine regulations for the procedure of and the form of Congressional elections and shall have necessary power to determine a procedure for declaration of candidacy for such elections. All elections to Congress shall be by public post.
6. Those elected in ordinary elections to Congress shall take office at noon Eastern Standard Time on the Friday following their election. Those elected in special elections to the Senate or appointed to the House shall take office as soon as the result of their election or appointment has been formally declared.

Section 5: Powers of the Congress (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 5 here]

Section 6: Powers denied to the Congress (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 6 here]

Section 7: Powers denied to the Regions (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 7 here]

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« Reply #216 on: April 22, 2009, 09:33:02 pm »
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Article 2: The Government

Section 1.
1. The head of government of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a Prime Minister.
2. The Government shall consist of the Prime Minister and Ministers.

Section 2: Election of the Prime Minister
1. The Prime Minister shall be elected by the membership of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) after every election to the legislature or after a government has fallen.
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a candidate for the office of Prime Minister who has not attained two hundred (or 150) or more posts, is not a member of Congress, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. In order to be a candidate, a person must be endorsed by 3 other (MPs only/Senators only/both).
4. The body electing the Prime Minister casts their votes in a public thread.
5. If a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, he/she is deemed elected.
6. If no candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast in the first round of voting, the lowest-placed candidate for Prime Minister is eliminated before a second round of voting is held.
7. The conditions in Clause 5 continue until a candidate has received half plus one of the votes cast, at which time he/she is deemed elected.
8. Upon the election of a Prime Minister, the Prime Minister-elect, in a speech to the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) presents his government's agenda for the parliamentary term.
9. Upon conclusion of this speech, the members of the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) vote in a confidence vote to the Prime Minister and his agenda, which requires half plus one of all votes cast to pass.

Section 3: The Cabinet
1. Upon a favourable response from the (Lower House/Upper House/joint sitting of Congress) in the confidence vote outlined in Section 1, Clause 8, the Prime Minister names his cabinet [opt: from the ranks of his coalition].
2. No Person shall be eligible to become a cabinet official who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent.
3. A Member of Government shall hold no other paid position in a profession, business or on the executive board of a corporation.
4. The cabinet posts will be determined in an organic law following the adoption of this Constitution.
5. The Government is responsible to Congress. Any cabinet member may ask to address the legislature at any time.
6. The Prime Minister may dismiss any Minister at his discretion.
7. A Member of Government may not engage in any activity the nature whereof contradicts the performance of his office.

Section 4: Motion of No-Confidence
1. A Member of Congress may move a motion of no-confidence in the sitting government.
[optional: 2. No Motions of No-Confidence shall be moved during any Federal Election or one week before the end of the Congress' term.]
2. The Member of Congress or Caucus moving the said motion shall have the right to explain his decision before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
3. The Prime Minister or a Person delegated by the Prime Minister shall have the right to oppose the said motion in a speech before members of the (LH/UH/Both).
4. When the conditions set out in Clauses 2 and 3 have been met, the members of the (LH/UH/Both) shall vote for, against, or abstain the Motion of No-Confidence.
5. A Motion of No-Confidence requires the approval of half plus one of all attending voting members.
6. If the (LH/UH/Both) vote a Motion of No-Confidence in the Government, the Government and the Prime Minister shall resign within twenty-four hours.
7. Upon resignation of the Prime Minister, the (LH/UH/Both) shall elect a Prime Minister from the conditions set out in Article

Article 3: The President

Section 1:
1. The head of state of the Republic of Atlasia shall be a President.

Section 2: Election of the President
1. The President shall be elected by the citizens of the Republic of Atlasia in direct elections by public vote for a four-month term. The right to elect the President have the citizens who are eligible to vote in election to the Congress.
2. No person shall be President who has not attained 250 or more posts, and is not a registered voter.

Section 3: Powers of the President (largely stolen from the Slovak Constitution)
1. The President shall represent Atlasia in international relations, negotiate and ratify international agreements; he can delegate the power to the Government or, with the consent of the Government, to individual members of the Government to negotiate those international agreements.
2. The President shall sign and veto laws. His veto may be overturned as described in Article 1, Section 3, Clause 2.
3. The President shall appoint justices to the Supreme Court, with the approve of the (LH/UH/both).
4. The President shall award decorations and honors, unless another authority has been delegated by him to do so.
5. The President shall grant pardons and amnesty, mitigate sentences imposed by criminal courts.
6. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces.
7. The President shall declare a state of emergency by means of a constitutional statute;
8. The President shall announce referendums and Constitutional Conventions.

Section 4: Vacancy
1. If the Presidency shall ever fall vacant, the President of the Senate shall become President and new elections for President will be held within one month. If the Presidency of the Senate is also vacant, then the Speaker of the House shall become President and new elections for President will be held within one month.
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« Reply #217 on: April 22, 2009, 09:33:59 pm »
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That is everything we have so far.
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« Reply #218 on: April 22, 2009, 09:38:46 pm »
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     I could get behind a limit of two consecutive terms along with no limit on total terms.
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« Reply #219 on: April 22, 2009, 10:00:07 pm »
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    I could get behind a limit of two consecutive terms along with no limit on total terms.

That seems reasonable to me.
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« Reply #220 on: April 22, 2009, 11:02:53 pm »
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Delegates, I bring the following motion to a vote of the Convention:

Article 1: The Congress of Atlasia

Section 1: Formation of the Senate
1. The Senate shall be composed of five Senators, each with a term of six months. All Senators shall be elected from the Regions. ( If we have three regions then one from each region and two at-large)
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for Senate who has not attained two hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Senator may not hold any other public office in Atlasia for the duration of their term.
3. The Senate shall choose their other officers, and also a President pro tempore, who shall act as President of the Senate in the absence of the President and who shall manage the everyday business of the Senate.
4. The President of the Republic of Atlasia shall be the President of the Senate, but shall have no vote unless they be equally divided.

Section 2: Formation of the House
1. The House of Representatives, herein referred to as House, shall be made up of fifteen Represtatives, each with a term of two months. All Representatives shall be elected from the Regions. (If we have three regions then three from each region and six at-large)
2. No Person shall be eligible to run for the House who has not attained one hundred or more posts, and is not a registered voter in the Region that they represent. A Representative may not hold any other federal or executive office in Atlasia for the duration of their term.
3. The House shall elect a Speaker of the House who shall be responsible for chairing debate that occurs within the House and for managing every day business.

Section 3: Congressional Rules and Legislation
1. The separate chambers of Congress may establish their own rules of procedure, and with the concurrence of two-thirds of its number, respectively, may expel a member of the same chamber.
2. Each chamber shall have fulfilled a quorum if a majority of its members are capable of discharging their offices and sworn into office. A quorum in each chamber shall have voted on any Resolution, Bill, Impeachment or Constitutional Amendment for it to be considered valid.
3. For any Bill or Resolution to pass the Congress, it shall have gained a majority in a valid vote in each respective chamber. Before the Bill or Resolution becomes Law, it shall be presented to the PPT, Speaker, and sponsors of the Bill or Resolution from each chamber for conference, unless it be concerning the rules for the proceedings of a chamber. Upon resolution of any differences between the separate versions of legislation, the Bill or Resolution shall be returned to both chambers for approval. If passed by both chambers separately, the revised Bill or Resolution shall then be presented to the President of the Republic of Atlasia. If the President approves, he shall sign it, and it shall become Law. If the President does not approve, he shall return the Bill with his objections to the Congress, and it shall not become Law. Upon reconsidering the Bill, if each chamber shall approve the legislation by two-thirds of its number, it shall become Law. If a Bill is not returned to the Congress by the President within seven days after it shall have been presented to him, it shall become Law regardless.

Section 4: Elections to Congress
1. Elections for the Senate shall be held in the months of January and July; Elections for the House shall be held on every odd numbered month of the year.
2. Elections shall be held from midnight Eastern Standard Time on the third Friday of a given month and shall conclude exactly 72 hours later.
3. If a vacancy shall occur in the House, then the Governor of that Representative's Region shall appoint a person to fill the remainder of that term.
4. If a vacancy shall occur in the Senate, then a special election shall be called to fill the remainder of the vacated term within one week of the vacancy occurring; Such special election shall be held from midnight Eastern Standard Time on a Friday and shall conclude exactly 72 hours later. However, if a vacancy shall occur when there is a person due to assume that office within two weeks, then no special election shall be necessary.
5. The Senate shall have necessary power to determine regulations for the procedure of and the form of Congressional elections and shall have necessary power to determine a procedure for declaration of candidacy for such elections. All elections to Congress shall be by public post.
6. Those elected in ordinary elections to Congress shall take office at noon Eastern Standard Time on the Friday following their election. Those elected in special elections to the Senate or appointed to the House shall take office as soon as the result of their election or appointment has been formally declared.

Section 5: Powers of the Congress (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 5 here]

Section 6: Powers denied to the Congress (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 6 here]

Section 7: Powers denied to the Regions (with some small edits later)
[insert the current Article 1, Section 7 here]

The motion shall be open for 48 hours or until a clear majority have voted to pass or reject the motion. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.



I want some more time to look at the other two articles and make them more concrete/better worded. I will put them up whenever the vote on this article concludes.
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« Reply #221 on: April 23, 2009, 07:05:09 am »
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Aye, but an article for impeachment of the President needs to be put in either Article 1 or 3.
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« Reply #222 on: April 23, 2009, 07:08:11 am »
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Aye, but an article for impeachment of the President needs to be put in either Article 1 or 3.

Aye with the above mentiond condition.
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« Reply #223 on: April 23, 2009, 08:19:18 am »
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« Reply #224 on: April 23, 2009, 09:08:44 am »
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Aye, but an article for impeachment of the President needs to be put in either Article 1 or 3.

Duly noted. This is why I wanted to look over the other two articles before bringing them to a vote.
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