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Question: Should Prisons be allowed to forcibly segregate prisoners based upon their ethnicity?
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Yes
 
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Lean Yes
 
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Neutral
 
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Lean No
 
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No
 
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« on: April 05, 2009, 04:21:58 AM »

32Criminal Trials by Jury81.3; 9.4; 0.0; 3.1; 6.3
1Women in the Military83.3; 5.6; 11.1; 0.0; 0.0
38Aid for Importing Prescription Drugs40.0; 46.7; 0.0; 6.7; 6.7
37Water as a Public Good80.0; 6.7; 0.0; 0.0; 13.3
9Legalize Prostitution73.1; 11.5; 0.0; 3.8; 11.5
19Legalize Marijuana74.0; 10.0; 0.0; 6.0; 10.0
31Jury Nullification79.2; 4.2; 4.2; 4.2; 8.3
25Job Outsourcing58.6; 20.7; 6.9; 0.0; 13.8
6Allow Gay Marriage75.9; 6.9; 0.0; 0.0; 17.2
17Government-Sponsored Health Care62.5; 15.0; 0.0; 7.5; 15.0
26Line-Item Veto47.8; 26.1; 0.0; 8.7; 17.4
22Nuclear Power58.6; 13.8; 6.9; 6.9; 13.8
18Eliminate the Deficit40.0; 32.0; 12.0; 4.0; 12.0
29Doctor-Assisted Suicide56.7; 13.3; 0.0; 10.0; 20.0
30Reduce Military Fudning60.0; 8.6; 0.0; 8.6; 22.9
4Free Trade Expansion41.7; 25.0; 2.8; 11.1; 19.4
10Legalize Selling Human Body Parts44.0; 16.0; 0.0; 8.0; 32.0
5Legalize Hard Drugs31.3; 28.1; 6.3; 9.4; 25.0
23Protect Strikers' Jobs50.0; 7.7; 0.0; 19.2; 23.1
15Campaign Finance Reform40.6; 15.6; 3.1; 6.3; 34.4
16Funding of Religious Charities19.4; 35.5; 3.2; 16.1; 25.8
21Offshore Drilling30.3; 24.2; 15.2; 12.1; 18.2
33Reduce the Corporate Tax36.7; 10.0; 6.7; 16.7; 30.0
34Limit CO2 emissions27.3; 18.2; 18.2; 18.2; 18.2
8Punish Illegal Immigrants26.9; 11.5; 0.0; 7.7; 53.8
39Increase Foreign Aid25.0; 10.7; 3.6; 14.3; 46.4
14Privatize Social Security31.3; 3.1; 9.4; 12.5; 43.8
35Require Helmets for Skiing18.2; 15.2; 3.0; 3.0; 60.6
13Reduce Federal-Owned Lands24.0; 8.0; 24.0; 12.0; 32.0
12Stricter Gun Control22.6; 3.2; 9.7; 16.1; 48.4
7Eliminate the Income Tax16.1; 9.7; 0.0; 6.5; 67.7
11Restrict Abortion22.9; 0.0; 5.7; 20.0; 51.4
27Allow Procedural Filibuster13.6; 9.1; 4.5; 9.1; 63.6
28Government Price Controls14.8; 3.7; 7.4; 18.5; 55.6
20Censor Indecent Broadcasts3.7; 14.8; 0.0; 18.5; 63.0
24Support NCLB8.0; 8.0; 4.0; 32.0; 48.0
3Return to the Gold Standard9.1; 4.5; 4.5; 9.1; 72.7
2Support the Patriot Act4.0; 4.0; 4.0; 12.0; 76.0
36Ability to ban Films and Video Games5.6; 0.0; 2.8; 13.9; 77.8

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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2009, 05:35:09 AM »

As a blanket matter, it should not.

It may be appropriate in some limited circumstances, where the threat of "ethnicity-based" violence is real.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 07:04:06 AM »

Well as a practical matter, what does the prison do that is not 'by force'?

I voted yes, of course, as a rape-reduction strategy.  But the unfortunate necessity should be emeliorated by giving the African-Americans the best digs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 09:45:26 AM »

I voted Lean No, because there are instances when races should not be inter-mixed in prisons. Gangs can form and become dangerous to inmates. But unless there is a true threat, segregation shouldn't be the norm.
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2009, 10:07:03 AM »


"can"?

Race-based gangs dominate a lot of prison life unless you are in the separate housing used for snitches and pedophiles.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2009, 10:13:08 AM »

Race based gangs are a much bigger problem than the very over blown prison rape problem.  Of course prisons should seperate by race if it makes it safer for everybody involved.  I'm pretty sure prisons wouldn't do it just to help whitey.
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2009, 02:32:38 PM »

Race based gangs are a much bigger problem than the very over blown prison rape problem.  Of course prisons should seperate by race if it makes it safer for everybody involved.  I'm pretty sure prisons wouldn't do it just to help whitey.

Well that's precisely who it would help.  They're the ones in the minority in prison, and their the number one target for the rapings you poo poo. 
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2009, 04:09:26 PM »

It helps everybody if you don't have race riots.  Race riots in prison may hurt the whiteys more, but EVERYBODY suffers.  If segregating by race helps, then it would be stuipd not to do it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2009, 04:58:37 PM »

If there is a serious threat of gang-related violence or something along those lines, then yes. Otherwise, no.
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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2009, 05:02:06 PM »

If there is a serious threat of gang-related violence or something along those lines, then yes.

So that's always then? (at least in any Southwestern state)
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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2009, 05:12:48 PM »

If there is a serious threat of gang-related violence or something along those lines, then yes.

So that's always then? (at least in any Southwestern state)

Pretty much, yeah.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2009, 05:20:44 PM »

No. Prisons shouldn't exist, so they shouldn't be doing anything.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2009, 06:22:59 PM »

I guess, provided the facilities are generally equal.
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« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2009, 06:41:12 PM »

No. Prisons shouldn't exist, so they shouldn't be doing anything.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2009, 01:14:00 AM »

Neutral.  I really couldn't care less, as long as everyone is treated equally.

What about my Israel question?
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2009, 01:22:47 AM »

They'd still form gangs... they'd just come up with something else to base it off.

I'd also be concerned about "separate but equal" stuff.
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 01:49:14 AM »

Neutral.  I really couldn't care less, as long as everyone is treated equally.

What about my Israel question?

     I forgot it, sorry. What was it again?
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2009, 12:15:50 AM »

It helps everybody if you don't have race riots.  Race riots in prison may hurt the whiteys more, but EVERYBODY suffers.  If segregating by race helps, then it would be stuipd not to do it.

I shall boldly claim that rapes are a hell of a lot more common than 'race riots' in prison. 
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 12:32:47 AM »

They'd still form gangs... they'd just come up with something else to base it off.


True on the former, unlikely on the latter
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2009, 11:53:56 PM »

It helps everybody if you don't have race riots.  Race riots in prison may hurt the whiteys more, but EVERYBODY suffers.  If segregating by race helps, then it would be stuipd not to do it.

I shall boldly claim that rapes are a hell of a lot more common than 'race riots' in prison. 

Not only that, but much of the raping is done by the guards. Our prisons are hella messed up.
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2009, 12:01:54 AM »

It helps everybody if you don't have race riots.  Race riots in prison may hurt the whiteys more, but EVERYBODY suffers.  If segregating by race helps, then it would be stuipd not to do it.

I shall boldly claim that rapes are a hell of a lot more common than 'race riots' in prison. 

Not only that, but much of the raping is done by the guards. Our prisons are hella messed up.

Well obviously the guards at 'female prisons' will rape the inmates, but I doubt its all that common in the regular ones is it?
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