NY-Governor/Quinnipiac: Paterson (D) in terrible shape
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« on: April 06, 2009, 08:50:49 AM »

General Election:

Giuliani (R): 53%
Paterson (D): 32%

Cuomo (D): 53%
Giuliani (R): 36%

DEM Primary:

Cuomo: 61%
Paterson: 18%

Favorable Ratings:

Cuomo: 63% favorable, 17% unfavorable
Giuliani: 55% favorable, 35% unfavorable
Paterson: 27% favorable, 55% unfavorable

Approval Ratings:

Paterson: 28% Approve, 60% Disapprove
Cuomo: 75% Approve, 14% Disapprove

Looking ahead to the 2010 election for Governor, do you feel that David Paterson deserves to be elected to a full 4 year term, or do you feel that he does not deserve to be elected to a full 4 year term ?

22% Yes, deserves
63% No, deserves not

From April 1- 5, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,528 New York State registered voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points. The survey includes 664 Democrats with a margin of error of +/- 3.8 percentage points.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1318.xml?ReleaseID=1284
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 09:17:43 AM »

Poor guy. Sad
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 09:27:31 AM »


After the budget they're going to pass up there in Albany, I personally don't think he deserves higher ratings than Blago got.  It's a disaster.

Anyway, Paterson is a goner because the public views him as incompetent (when black people I talk to say that he's incompetent - then you know for sure) and, well, even if he could overcome that, the economy in these parts is only going to get worse.

The only question is, in my mind, will it be another Democrat or a Republican.  If a Democrat, it's going to be more of a Democrat to the center I suspect, because with the budget that they're going to pass, Paterson has clearly allied himself with the more left-wing elements of the Democratic party, the unions and the WFP.

Of course, that makes him more likely to survive the primary.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 11:28:40 AM »

I'm not even sure he'll run for reelection at this point.
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 11:29:27 AM »

sam, that assumes a competent Republican opponent though, no?
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 11:35:51 AM »

Even though I laughed once I saw those numbers, this is getting to the point where it just isn't funny anymore.

Interesting ratings for Rudy, by the way. Remember when NY apparently hated him?
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 11:42:40 AM »

at the height of the election, no doubt, and when he tacked to the right for the primary.  Wouldn't surprise me if Lieberman is also doing better.  The electorate will need a reminder by the opposing campaign.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 11:44:37 AM »

at the height of the election, no doubt, and when he tacked to the right for the primary.  Wouldn't surprise me if Lieberman is also doing better.  The electorate will need a reminder by the opposing campaign.

Sure but I would think that those feelings would have lasted a bit longer. To go from hated to 55% favorable (and only 35% unfavorable!) rating in a year is impressive.

I have no doubt that the voters will be reminded of "conservative Rudy" but you can't say that it won't be a competitive race if he's running.
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 11:49:51 AM »

at the height of the election, no doubt, and when he tacked to the right for the primary.  Wouldn't surprise me if Lieberman is also doing better.  The electorate will need a reminder by the opposing campaign.

Sure but I would think that those feelings would have lasted a bit longer. To go from hated to 55% favorable (and only 35% unfavorable!) rating in a year is impressive.

I have no doubt that the voters will be reminded of "conservative Rudy" but you can't say that it won't be a competitive race if he's running.

A few ads featuring his foaming-from-the-mouth speech at the RNC and his God-bless-George-W.-Bush statements, and his favorables will go down to meet those of Patterson.

If Cuomo runs, I doubt that Giuliani will even bother. Unlike Faso he seems to still have ambitions for higher office.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 11:52:44 AM »

at the height of the election, no doubt, and when he tacked to the right for the primary.  Wouldn't surprise me if Lieberman is also doing better.  The electorate will need a reminder by the opposing campaign.

Sure but I would think that those feelings would have lasted a bit longer. To go from hated to 55% favorable (and only 35% unfavorable!) rating in a year is impressive.

I have no doubt that the voters will be reminded of "conservative Rudy" but you can't say that it won't be a competitive race if he's running.

A few ads featuring his foaming-from-the-mouth speech at the RNC and his God-bless-George-W.-Bush statements, and his favorables will go down to meet those of Patterson.

I understand that they'll go down but the fact that they're at 55% is impressive. I don't see how they could have already totally forgotten those statements when that's all we've seen from Rudy since 2004.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2009, 12:13:41 PM »

at the height of the election, no doubt, and when he tacked to the right for the primary.  Wouldn't surprise me if Lieberman is also doing better.  The electorate will need a reminder by the opposing campaign.

Sure but I would think that those feelings would have lasted a bit longer. To go from hated to 55% favorable (and only 35% unfavorable!) rating in a year is impressive.

I have no doubt that the voters will be reminded of "conservative Rudy" but you can't say that it won't be a competitive race if he's running.

It won't be.  Cuomo said he won't run, but if he changes his mind and faces Rudy it won't be competitive.  Nor will it be competitive if Suozzi runs.  Once a race gets underway and the voters get reminded of the 2008 Rudy its over.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2009, 12:17:32 PM »
« Edited: April 06, 2009, 12:19:18 PM by Lunar »

the electorate is fickle and has a short memory, this isn't exactly news.  How the fuck else would Clinton have managed to be the working-class, whiskey-drinking hero during the 2008 Democratic primaries?

Also, Giuliani's ratings might be artificially inflated by his possible opposition to Paterson.  If you hate Paterson, are you really going to give his prospective opponents a bad favorability rating?  It might not be representative of his actual standing, depending on the poll structure.  Still good news for Rudy though.  Rudy is enough of a star that any race he were to enter into, from Congressman on up, would be initially competitive.
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2009, 12:29:50 PM »


After the budget they're going to pass up there in Albany, I personally don't think he deserves higher ratings than Blago got.  It's a disaster.

Anyway, Paterson is a goner because the public views him as incompetent (when black people I talk to say that he's incompetent - then you know for sure) and, well, even if he could overcome that, the economy in these parts is only going to get worse.

The only question is, in my mind, will it be another Democrat or a Republican.  If a Democrat, it's going to be more of a Democrat to the center I suspect, because with the budget that they're going to pass, Paterson has clearly allied himself with the more left-wing elements of the Democratic party, the unions and the WFP.

Of course, that makes him more likely to survive the primary.

http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/buffaloerie/story/630339.html

What are your thoughts on Lazio's candidacy?  I have mine, but they're not very interesting.
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 12:40:25 PM »

Safe Anyone But Paterson.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2009, 01:44:02 PM »

My problem with Paterson (and the problem a lot of the people I talk to had with him) was that he wasn't sufficiently left-wing.

Hmm... I'm already talking about him in the past tense.
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2009, 01:50:16 PM »

My problem with Paterson (and the problem a lot of the people I talk to had with him) was that he wasn't sufficiently left-wing.

He wasn't looney enough for you, eh?
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2009, 02:12:26 PM »



What are your thoughts on Lazio's candidacy?  I have mine, but they're not very interesting.

So he's definitely in it? I'd prefer Rudy (and I'm sure he'll get out if Rudy runs) but I've always liked Lazio. I think he's been unfairly targetted, like another Rick I know... Tongue
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2009, 02:35:26 PM »



What are your thoughts on Lazio's candidacy?  I have mine, but they're not very interesting.

So he's definitely in it? I'd prefer Rudy (and I'm sure he'll get out if Rudy runs) but I've always liked Lazio. I think he's been unfairly targetted, like another Rick I know... Tongue

Walter wanted him to run for his old House Seat.....
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2009, 08:32:53 PM »

My problem with Paterson (and the problem a lot of the people I talk to had with him) was that he wasn't sufficiently left-wing.

He wasn't looney enough for you, eh?

hardy har har, that was a good one.
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2009, 01:39:28 AM »

http://www.politickerny.com/2945/next-governor-lazio-will-headline-conservative-dinner

Lazio is certainly walking the walk, at least thus far
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