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Question: Does Bush make too many excuses as to why things are getting done?
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« on: October 02, 2004, 12:09:22 AM »

It seems as though Bush is full of excuses for everything and never seems to take responsibility for his actions.

1) Economy, “it is the fault of Clinton”. Never mind the fact that both Clinton and Reagan inherited a larger economic problem than did Bush. They didn't blame it on the previous administration; they instead took the reigns of leadership. Bush has used excuses for three years not to turn the economy. Three years is along time to do nothing. He also has done nothing to stem the deportation of American Jobs overseas.

2) Capturing Bin Laudin. They seem to have 100 excuses as to why US Troops are not pursuing him. It has been 3 years. It is believed that Bin Laudin is in Pakistan. If Bin Laudin is in Pakistan, and we don't have any forces in Pakistan, how can we capture him?

3) The deficit. Bush not only cannot balance the budget when given a surplus, he has driven up the deficit to record levels. He offers excuses rather than leadership to get a balanced budget.

4) Homeland Security. It is not properly funded. You cannot talk to a single officer in the country that will not testify that the Bush Administration has not funded the programs they funded. In addition, the overwhelming percentage of cargo (about 95%) coming into the United States goes unchecked for chemical, biological, nuclear, or other weapons of mass destruction.

5) US Boarders are still going unchecked. Terrorists can easily come into the country without anyone stopping them.

6)  Education is still way under funded, and in my state, along with many others, is suffering greatly.

7) Right to Privacy. The Patriot Act has even brought on the scorn of some Republicans. This allows the government to check out your computer and the books you read online without so much as your knowledge or the approval of a judge.

Cool Guns. This President is pushing for sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban. These guns are made only for the purpose of killing cops. We need this ban. President offers only excuses.

9) Iraq is a MESS. Countless numbers of Iraqi civilians, many women and little children, are dead, dying, or been severely handicapped. At least 1000 US troops have been killed, about 3-5 times as many wounded or permantly disabled. Bush made excuses to go into Iraq, such as non-existent WMD's.

10) International relations are now a mess. The citizens of most countries now dislike the United States, or their opinion of the country has gone down significantly. It makes much harder on our troops to get stuff done when relations with other nations have been severely diminished.

This President seems to be offering lots of excuses but no really answer, solutions, and most of all, no LEADERSHIP.
 
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2004, 12:19:02 AM »

Started reading. Saw you ignore Bush's catastrophic economic success.

Scrolled down some. Saw you mention the assault weapons ban that does absolutely nothing except ban semiautomatics that look scary to you morons, even though you've always been able to get the exact same functions on other semiautomatics.

Quit reading.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2004, 02:13:38 AM »

Started reading. Saw you ignore Bush's catastrophic economic success.

Scrolled down some. Saw you mention the assault weapons ban that does absolutely nothing except ban semiautomatics that look scary to you morons, even though you've always been able to get the exact same functions on other semiautomatics.

Quit reading.
I'd describe losing almost a million jobs, turning an $87 billion surplus into a $600+ billion deficit, and having the Dow go down catastrophic.  Hint: catastrophic and success don't go together.
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2004, 02:39:45 AM »

I'd describe losing almost a million jobs, turning an $87 billion surplus into a $600+ billion deficit, and having the Dow go down catastrophic.  Hint: catastrophic and success don't go together.
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Thanks for responding to him/her. I have no idea what he meant by the use of the term "catastrophic success".

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2004, 06:51:26 AM »

It seems as though Bush is full of excuses for everything and never seems to take responsibility for his actions.

1) Economy, “it is the fault of Clinton”. Never mind the fact that both Clinton and Reagan inherited a larger economic problem than did Bush. They didn't blame it on the previous administration; they instead took the reigns of leadership. Bush has used excuses for three years not to turn the economy. Three years is along time to do nothing. He also has done nothing to stem the deportation of American Jobs overseas.

2) Capturing Bin Laudin. They seem to have 100 excuses as to why US Troops are not pursuing him. It has been 3 years. It is believed that Bin Laudin is in Pakistan. If Bin Laudin is in Pakistan, and we don't have any forces in Pakistan, how can we capture him?

3) The deficit. Bush not only cannot balance the budget when given a surplus, he has driven up the deficit to record levels. He offers excuses rather than leadership to get a balanced budget.

4) Homeland Security. It is not properly funded. You cannot talk to a single officer in the country that will not testify that the Bush Administration has not funded the programs they funded. In addition, the overwhelming percentage of cargo (about 95%) coming into the United States goes unchecked for chemical, biological, nuclear, or other weapons of mass destruction.

5) US Boarders are still going unchecked. Terrorists can easily come into the country without anyone stopping them.

6)  Education is still way under funded, and in my state, along with many others, is suffering greatly.

7) Right to Privacy. The Patriot Act has even brought on the scorn of some Republicans. This allows the government to check out your computer and the books you read online without so much as your knowledge or the approval of a judge.

8 ) Guns. This President is pushing for sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban. These guns are made only for the purpose of killing cops. We need this ban. President offers only excuses.

9) Iraq is a MESS. Countless numbers of Iraqi civilians, many women and little children, are dead, dying, or been severely handicapped. At least 1000 US troops have been killed, about 3-5 times as many wounded or permantly disabled. Bush made excuses to go into Iraq, such as non-existent WMD's.

10) International relations are now a mess. The citizens of most countries now dislike the United States, or their opinion of the country has gone down significantly. It makes much harder on our troops to get stuff done when relations with other nations have been severely diminished.

This President seems to be offering lots of excuses but no really answer, solutions, and most of all, no LEADERSHIP.
 

Excellent post. Republicans like to muddy the facts and make the bad seem good and the good seem bad, but you can't hide from reality. All of the above are plainly true, and yet the President always has an excuse.

To those who say that Truman would be a Republican today, I say no way--anyone who says "The buck stops here" isn't a Republican nowadays. Real men don't make excuses, they just get the job done, or if they can't, they take responsibility.
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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2004, 01:25:28 PM »

Kerry scews up on the stump, it's his staff's fault and they need to be shook up.  Kerry falls on the ski slopes, it's that "son of a bitch" secret service agent that "ran into" him.  Etc, etc.

Hmm.  Wonder if there is a pattern here.
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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2004, 02:09:18 PM »

Bush haws his excuses and an army of apologists to back him up.

Oh and on the Gun Ban.  The Bush excuse was that he thought the ban was good and he would have signed it but congress didn't get it to his desk in time.  SHOOT.

And the excuse on not funding Homeland security brought up in the debate last night was. "I'd like to hear how you plan to fund all that"

And the excuse for the debt is of course the expensive war and the financial crisis.  The financial crisis of course was caused by Clinton and a series of tax cuts to the wealthy should eliviate that even though their is not one reputable proof that trickle down economics works.  And the cost of the war was because Sadam has WMD no he is WMD and the people will great us with flowers, no they will be peaceful when we capture Sadam, no they will be peaceful when we hand over power, no they will be peaceful when they hold elections, even if much of the population won't be able to vote.

There is of course a reason for everything.  Don't worry we've got everything under control and if anybody has ever known an addict or been an addict themselves you should quickly be able to identify this deadly trait.
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2004, 11:03:32 PM »

Catastrophic success is success during a catastrophe.

Assault weapons ban = scary-looking versions of the exact same guns ban
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2004, 11:06:07 PM »

Catastrophic success is success during a catastrophe.

Assault weapons ban = scary-looking versions of the exact same guns ban

Bush is a catastrophe, alright.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2004, 11:10:37 PM »

Since 9/11, we have had a grand total of zero terror strikes on our soil.  

That's getting things done.

That's argument numero uno for voting Bush. (I'm still sitting on the fence, mind you, but I don't think people give the current administration nearly enough credit for what hasn't happened.)
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 11:12:10 PM »

Since 9/11, we have had a grand total of zero terror strikes on our soil.  

That's getting things done.

That's argument numero uno for voting Bush. (I'm still sitting on the fence, mind you, but I don't think people give the current administration nearly enough credit for what hasn't happened.)

Anthrax attacks?
Oh, those were on Democratic Senators. I guess they don't count.
One 9/11 was alrready one too many 9/11, especially when Bush had ignored a memo titled "Bin Laden determined  to strike in US"
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 11:34:09 PM »

Fern, Clinton was all but handed Bin Laden but he wussed out and didn't take him.  What a nadless wonder.  More terrorist attacks on his watch as I recall...can you blame that on the GOP?  Not no but hell no.  The DEMS LIBS do not have the will to do what it takes.
We have fought out of the economic double whammy of the Clinton downturn at the end of his reign and the fallout of 9-11.  Stimulating the economy was vital.  It has worked and we are in a robust recovery.  Your spin numbers used to be 2.7 million jobs lost.  Last month it was spun as 1.3 million jobs lost.  When are the new numbers coming out??
Doom and gloom rule the LIBERAL party of sKerry.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2004, 11:36:26 PM »

Fern, Clinton was all but handed Bin Laden but he wussed out and didn't take him.  What a nadless wonder.  More terrorist attacks on his watch as I recall...can you blame that on the GOP?  Not no but hell no.  The DEMS LIBS do not have the will to do what it takes.
We have fought out of the economic double whammy of the Clinton downturn at the end of his reign and the fallout of 9-11.  Stimulating the economy was vital.  It has worked and we are in a robust recovery.  Your spin numbers used to be 2.7 million jobs lost.  Last month it was spun as 1.3 million jobs lost.  When are the new numbers coming out??
Doom and gloom rule the LIBERAL party of sKerry.

In terms of attacks on US soil:
Close to 3000 dead from Al Qaeda under Bush
6 dead from Al Qaeda and a 100 something dead from some anti-government conservative American under Clinton
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2004, 11:37:18 PM »

There have been an increase of terrorist attacks world wide since 9/11 though and really their hadn't been an attack on US soild since Pearl Harbour.
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2004, 11:38:36 PM »
« Edited: October 02, 2004, 11:39:42 PM by jfern »

There have been an increase of terrorist attacks world wide since 9/11 though and really their hadn't been an attack on US soild since Pearl Harbour.
Worldwide, there were the most terrorist attacks in 20 years.
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2004, 05:49:17 PM »

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Total capitulation on the horizon if sKerry elected.
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2004, 09:05:11 PM »

Yes, Bush makes WAY too many excuses.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2004, 09:09:10 PM »

Fern, Clinton was all but handed Bin Laden but he wussed out and didn't take him.  What a nadless wonder.  More terrorist attacks on his watch as I recall...can you blame that on the GOP?  Not no but hell no.  The DEMS LIBS do not have the will to do what it takes.
We have fought out of the economic double whammy of the Clinton downturn at the end of his reign and the fallout of 9-11.  Stimulating the economy was vital.  It has worked and we are in a robust recovery.  Your spin numbers used to be 2.7 million jobs lost.  Last month it was spun as 1.3 million jobs lost.  When are the new numbers coming out??
Doom and gloom rule the LIBERAL party of sKerry.

 100 something dead from some anti-government conservative American under Clinton

Funded by Al Qaeda.
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