World Leaders Survivor Redux - Organisation Thread

[Platypus]

The nineteenth round has completed, with five eliminated leaders:

Group One:

Ahmed Abdallah Sambi, Comoros: 9 votes
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Robert Fico, Slovakia: 6 votes
Apisai Ielemia, Tuvalu: 1 vote

Group Two:


Hubert Ingraham, Bahamas, The: 9 votes
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Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono: 3 votes
Leonel Fernandez, Dominican Republic: 2 votes
Fradique de Menezes, Sao Tome and Principe: 1 vote

Group Three:


Fouad Siniora, Lebanon: 6 votes
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Stephen Harper, Canada: 5 votes
Gordon Brown, United Kingdom: 1 vote
Alvaro Colom, Guatemala: 1 vote
Evo Morales, Bolivia: 1 vote
Johnson Toribiong, Palau: 1 vote

Group Four:


Moussa Dadis Camara, Guinea: 9 votes
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King Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifah, Bahrain: 2 votes
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina: 1 vote
Pierre Nkurunziza, Burundi: 1 vote
Antonio Saca, El Salvador: 1 vote
Anote Tong. Kiribati: 1 vote

Group Five:


Bharrat Jagdeo, Guyana: 13 votes
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Yayi Boni, Benin: 1 vote
Litokwa Tomeing, Marshall Islands: 1 vote
Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine: 1 vote

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Cumulative vote totals as of the end of round nineteen for those still surviving.  The all time vote getter so far is the eliminated Hugo Chavez, Venezuela with 38 votes.  Viktor Yushenko is in a position where he might displace Hugo from his throne when he is eliminated.

G1
Robert Fico, Slovakia: 19 votes
Rafael Correa, Ecuador: 3 votes
Carlos Gomes Junior, Guinea-Bissau: 3 votes
Serzh Sargsyan, Armenia: 3 votes
Apisai Ielemia, Tuvalu: 3 votes
Ralph Gonsalves, St Vincent and the Grenadines: 1 vote
Ahmed Abdallah Sambi, Comoros: 1 vote

G2
Fradique de Menezes, Sao Tome and Principe: 10 votes
Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, Indonesia: 6 votes
Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone: 4 votes
Leonel Fernandez, Dominican Republic: 3 votes
Denzil Douglas, Saint Kitts and Nevis: 2 votes
Yoweri Museveni, Uganda: 2 votes
Angela Merkel, Germany: 1 vote
Lars Lokke Rasmussen, Denmark: 1 vote
Michael Somare, Papua New Guinea: 1 vote

G3
Evo Morales, Bolivia: 19 votes
Stephen Harper, Canada: 18 votes
Gordon Brown, United Kingdom: 10 votes
Massimo Cenci, San Marino: 5 votes
Alvaro Colom, Guatemala: 1 vote
Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brazil: 1 vote
Johnson Toribiong, Palau: 1 vote

G4
King Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifah, Bahrain: 14 votes
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina: 12 votes
Mohamed Nasheed, Maldives: 3 votes
Jigme Thinley, Bhutan: 2 votes
Mirko Cvetkovic, Serbia: 1 vote
Fernando Lugo, Paraguay: 1 vote
Pierre Nkurunziza, Burundi: 1 vote
Antonio Saca, El Salvador: 1 vote
Anote Tong. Kiribati: 1 vote

G5
Viktor Yushenko, Ukraine: 25 votes
Yayi Boni, Benin: 7 votes
Brian Cowen, Ireland: 3 votes
Stephenson King, St Lucia: 3 votes
Ronald Venetiaan, Suriname: 3 votes
Hans-Rudolf Merz, Switzerland: 2 votes
Ivo Sanader, Croatia: 2 votes
Litokwa Tomeing, Marshall Islands: 1 vote

[Platypus]

The twentieth round has completed, with five eliminated leaders:

Group One:

Robert Fico, Slovakia: 12 votes
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Apisai Ielemia, Tuvalu: 2 votes
Carlos Gomes Jr., Guinea-Bissau: 1 vote
Serzh Sargsyan, Armenia: 1 vote

Group Two:


Fradique de Menezes, Sao Tome and Principe: 9 votes
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Leonel Fernandez, Dominican Republic: 3 votes
Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono: 3 votes
Denzil Douglas, Saint Kitts and Nevis: 1 vote


Group Three:


Johnson Toribiong, Palau: 7 votes
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Stephen Harper, Canada: 6 votes
Massimo Cenci, San Marino: 1 vote
Alvaro Colom, Guatemala: 1 vote
Alan Garcia, Peru: 1 vote

Group Four:


King Hamad ibn Isa Al Khalifah, Bahrain: 9 votes
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Pierre Nkurunziza, Burundi: 6 votes
Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina: 1 vote

Group Five:


Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine: 6 votes
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Ivo Sanader, Croatia: 4 votes
Ronald Venetiaan, Suriname: 4 votes
Yayi Boni, Benin: 1 vote
Abdoulaye Wade, Senegal: 1 vote

[Platypus]

A reminder that in this round, round 21, you can vote in two ways: 1 full vote for one leader, or two half votes for two leaders.

[Hash]

The Slovakian fascist is out. Muy bien.

[Platypus]

The Slovakian fascist is out. Muy bien.

Congratulations.

[GMantis]

We are now past the halfway mark! Here's the updated map:

The shades of red in the Atlas key show how many votes the country has received. Five and below - 10%, between 5% and 10% - 30% and so on.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yushchenko losing is notable as he was in the final 10 last time.

[GMantis]

Yushchenko losing is notable as he was in the final 10 last time.

He hadn't been President of the Ukraine for 4 and a half years then. His fame as a hero of the Orange revolution has been completely overshadowed by the incompetence of his administration.

[Platypus]

The twenty first round has completed, with five eliminated leaders:

Group One:

Ralph Gonsalves, St Vincent and the Grenadines: 4.75 votes
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Apisai Ielemia, Tuvalu: 4.5 votes
Serzh Sargsyan, Armenia: 3.5 votes
Carlos Gomes Jr., Guinea-Bissau: 1.5 votes
Rafael Correa, Ecuador: 1 vote

Group Two:


Denzil Douglas, Saint Kitts and Nevis: 6.5 votes
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Leonel Fernandez, Dominican Republic: 3.5 votes
Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono: 2 votes
Pedro Pires, Cape Verde: 1.5 votes
Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone: 0.5 votes
Michael Somare, Papua New Guinea: 0.5 votes
David Thompson. Barbados: 0.5 votes

Group Three:


Stephen Harper, Canada: 6 votes
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Massimo Cenci, San Marino: 5 votes
Alvaro Colom, Guatemala: 1 vote
Alan Garcia, Peru: 1 vote
Manny Mori, Micronesia: 1 vote
Roosevelt Skerrit, Dominica: 1 vote
Sanjaagiin Bayar, Mongolia: 0.5 votes
Evo Morales, Bolivia: 0.5 votes

Group Four:


Pierre Nkurunziza, Burundi: 7 votes
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Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, Argentina: 2 votes
Antonio Saca, El Salvador: 2 votes
Mirko Cvetkovic, Serbia: 1 vote
Mohamed Nasheed, Maldives: 1 vote
Baldwin Spencer, Antigua and Barbuda: 1 vote
Pakalitha Mosisili, Lesotho: 0.5 votes
Anote Tong, Kiribati: 0.5 votes

Group Five:


Ronald Venetiaan, Suriname: 6.5 votes
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Ivo Sanader, Croatia: 5.5 votes
Yayi Boni, Benin: 1.5 votes
Brian Cowen, Ireland: 0.5 votes
Litokwa Tomeing, Marshall Islands: 0.5 votes
Abdoulaye Wade, Senegal: 0.5 votes

[Platypus]

I broke a tie in group one.

[Nhoj]

harper looks like an evil mastermind with that cat, now everyone should be able to figure out why people were voting for him.

[Gustaf]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

[GMantis]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

[minionofmidas]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

Harper is an idiot but that group still includes lots of joke countries and a rather dubious character in Colom. Which really belonged busted before. Of course Harper lost because people have a deservedly soft spot for San Marino and refused to get on that train and there were other joke country alternatives.

I note that Hugh's tiebreaking votes have declined in value. They used to be half votes, now they're just quarter.

[Platypus]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

Harper is an idiot but that group still includes lots of joke countries and a rather dubious character in Colom. Which really belonged busted before. Of course Harper lost because people have a deservedly soft spot for San Marino and refused to get on that train and there were other joke country alternatives.

I note that Hugh's tiebreaking votes have declined in value. They used to be half votes, now they're just quarter.

that was a one-off, to distinguish it as a tie-break vote.

[minionofmidas]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

Harper is an idiot but that group still includes lots of joke countries and a rather dubious character in Colom. Which really belonged busted before. Of course Harper lost because people have a deservedly soft spot for San Marino and refused to get on that train and there were other joke country alternatives.

I note that Hugh's tiebreaking votes have declined in value. They used to be half votes, now they're just quarter.

that was a one-off, to distinguish it as a tie-break vote.

I figured, but it's a memorable event nonethesame.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yeah, I was halfway tempted to vote for Morales just to save the San Marino guy, but figured that's not worth giving the right a victory. But there are plenty of joke countries in that bracket that deserve to fall long before San Marino, a Freedom Country if there ever was one.

[Nhoj]

Yeah, I was halfway tempted to vote for Morales just to save the San Marino guy, but figured that's not worth giving the right a victory. But there are plenty of joke countries in that bracket that deserve to fall long before San Marino, a Freedom Country if there ever was one.

oh i agree but its so small that i cant help but vote for it :/ though you could convince me to change my vote if we could get people to line up behind some tiny country more deserving.

[Gustaf]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

I'm bewildered that I even have to argue about this. CANADA? The only way one can argue that Canada is not one of the best countries in the world is if one is a radical right-winger. I will just post one example: Bayar of Mongolia. Do you seriously, really, really consider him a better leader than Harper? I find that hard to believe of anyone.

[minionofmidas]

Don't blame me, I voted for Bayar!

And you didn't.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

I'm bewildered that I even have to argue about this. CANADA? The only way one can argue that Canada is not one of the best countries in the world is if one is a radical right-winger. I will just post one example: Bayar of Mongolia. Do you seriously, really, really consider him a better leader than Harper? I find that hard to believe of anyone.

Was it the radical right-wingers who voted against Harper? Is Canada so great because of Harper?

[Edu]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

I'm bewildered that I even have to argue about this. CANADA? The only way one can argue that Canada is not one of the best countries in the world is if one is a radical right-winger. I will just post one example: Bayar of Mongolia. Do you seriously, really, really consider him a better leader than Harper? I find that hard to believe of anyone.

Well, it's not thanks to Harper that Canada is one of the best countries in the world, it's like that since long before him.
Basically anyone can be elected prime minister in Canada and not  the country up

I have more respect for leaders who take into their hands an utter sh**t country and manage to get at least a decent administration out of it. Cristina Kirchner for instance might not be the greatest leader ever but she was very influential in her husband's administration when we recovered from the 2001 fiasco. And despite her flaws i still think we are better off now than in most of the past 30 years at least. And so far in tangible terms we haven't been hit that hard by the financial crisis.

[Platypus]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

I'm bewildered that I even have to argue about this. CANADA? The only way one can argue that Canada is not one of the best countries in the world is if one is a radical right-winger. I will just post one example: Bayar of Mongolia. Do you seriously, really, really consider him a better leader than Harper? I find that hard to believe of anyone.

Well, it's not thanks to Harper that Canada is one of the best countries in the world, it's like that since long before him.
Basically anyone can be elected prime minister in Canada and not  the country up

I have more respect for leaders who take into their hands an utter sh**t country and manage to get at least a decent administration out of it. Cristina Kirchner for instance might not be the greatest leader ever but she was very influential in her husband's administration when we recovered from the 2001 fiasco. And despite her flaws i still think we are better off now than in most of the past 30 years at least. And so far in tangible terms we haven't been hit that hard by the financial crisis.

...because capitalism in Argentina collapsed 8 years ago

(I loved my two+ months in Argentina, btw, and I do understand it isn't a third world nation. I'm also a feminist. But...CFdeK is basically just an empty head)

[GMantis]

Another embarassing round for the forum. Sigh.

What's so embarrassing about eliminating Harper and Douglas?

I'm bewildered that I even have to argue about this. CANADA? The only way one can argue that Canada is not one of the best countries in the world is if one is a radical right-winger. I will just post one example: Bayar of Mongolia. Do you seriously, really, really consider him a better leader than Harper? I find that hard to believe of anyone.

We're not judging the greatness of countries here (that has been done elsewhere), but of their leaders. Leaders as human beings, can do only as much as the country's resources (I mean any kind of resources - physical, economic, demographic) permit them. Therefore, I generally believe that leaders should be judged on how they have influenced their country and especially for powerfull countries, how they have influenced other countries. It's widespread opinion that Harper has not had a good influence on Canada or on the wider world, and in any case he isn't responsible for Canada's current position, which is why he was voted off. Sierra Leone is a far worse country than Canada, but considering how it was before Ernest Bai Koroma came to power and his personal responsibility in attempting to improve it, I regard him as a better leader than Harper. And the same arguments can be made of many other Third World leaders.