Group Three - World Leaders Survivor - STAGE ONE COMPLETE

[Gustaf]

Kim Jong-Il

[Gustaf]

Yeah, Lukashenko has made Belarus the last Soviet state. A place which has real death patrols executing journalists in basements with head-shots.

Lukashenko it is.

[Gustaf]

Omar al-Bashir

Yeah, Lukashenko has made Belarus the last Soviet state. A place which has real death patrols executing journalists in basements with head-shots.

Lukashenko it is.

Try to reign in your imagination, please. Belarus does prosecute journalists and they execute criminals (murderers, mostly), but they haven't executed any journalists.

I've understood that you have a certain fondness for slavic/orthodox dictators. But execute was meant in a more symbolic way. I'm not claiming there were any trials involved.

[Gustaf]

Lukashenko.

Don't be racist, vote out a white guy!

[Gustaf]

Nguesso. A guy who spends all of his country's aid from the UK in a single hotel stay deserves to be voted off...

[Gustaf]

Mubarak

[Gustaf]

Ok, I'll accept Mubarak this time.

[Gustaf]

Rahmon

[Gustaf]

Netanyahu is bad, but he doesn't deserve to go this early. Morales is my protest vote.

[Gustaf]

Dahal

[Gustaf]

Uribe is a democratically elected leader who has been vastly successful in battling Colombia's drug-dealing guerilla. Get real...

(yeah, he's also both somewhat authoritarian and corrupt but still better than a lot of other leaders still on the list. I know the FARC-guerilla he's fighting is communist, but that's not good enough reason to vote him off)

[Gustaf]

Abbas, but that's just to protest the Uribe-voting. I'd prefer some of the other guys to go first otherwise.

[Gustaf]

Vejjajiva. He wants to bring the country to an old-fashioned monarcy where the king rules supported by the military. He's part of the side that over-threw the democratically elected leader. And it seems likely that he tried to murder the leader of the opposition party (who replaced the leader of the former party which was ousted and banned with the leader being exiled).

As if that wasn't enough he also seems to have abandoned the sensible economic policies that was the only thing going for his side (sort of, kind of...not even someone as economically conservative as me is necessarily opposed to redistrivutive policies like the ones Thaksin did in a country like Thailand).

Vejjajiva is clearly a hell of a lot worse than Uribe, that's for sure. But of course, persecuting a leftist opposotion party trying to help the poor is better than fighting a drug-dealing communist guerilla in Latin America.

[Gustaf]

I was happy when Thaksin was overthrown, just because opebo didn't like him and he won elections via fraud and owning the media a la Berlusconi anyway. There's a reason all the opposition parties boycotted that joke of an election he called right before he was ousted.

You're being an idiot as usual. Thaksin, the leftist politician in Thailand, won in a land-slide in the most free and fair election in Thai history. He was ousted by a military coup from reactionary elites in the country centred around the miltary and the king. They abolished his party and banned him. His successor with a successor party then managed to re-take power anyway due to their popular support. The military then abolished that party too and brought in the current guy.

If you want to support the fascist, miltiary royalist side against the democratically elected left, go ahead. But don't try and claim that you're an anti-facsist anymore.

[Gustaf]

Thaksin was hardly democratic. I have a tough time believing he even cared about the poor, more like gave them handouts to buy votes. He was massively corrupt and engaged in cronynism, he cramped down on civil liberties and ethnic minorities and promoted xenophobic nationalism, had many prominent officials from former right-wing military regimes in his government and in his new party now, he manipulated the media, he openly violated election law and his electoral victories were also full of fraud. At the time of his overthrow his last joke elections were completely boycotted by the opposition, and he had lost all support internationally with the world wanting him to step down.

How did he fraud himself back into power after the military ousted him? How did he control the media when his party was banned and he himself was exiled? And how is the fascist elite centred around the army and the king better in any way?

[Gustaf]

Thaksin was hardly democratic. I have a tough time believing he even cared about the poor, more like gave them handouts to buy votes. He was massively corrupt and engaged in cronynism, he cramped down on civil liberties and ethnic minorities and promoted xenophobic nationalism, had many prominent officials from former right-wing military regimes in his government and in his new party now, he manipulated the media, he openly violated election law and his electoral victories were also full of fraud. At the time of his overthrow his last joke elections were completely boycotted by the opposition, and he had lost all support internationally with the world wanting him to step down.

How did he fraud himself back into power after the military ousted him? How did he control the media when his party was banned and he himself was exiled? And how is the fascist elite centred around the army and the king better in any way?

I'm talking about when he was in power.

Gustaf: Thaksin had popular support. Evidence: he wins every election

BRTD: he only won because he had so much power

Gustaf: he won even when he had no power

BRTD: I ignore that.

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I think you lost...

[Gustaf]

Razak

Michel

[Gustaf]

Michel

[Gustaf]

Michel

[Gustaf]

Sevele

[Gustaf]

Pointless near-absolute monarchy or Stephen Harper? Hmmm...

Eh, what the hey. Stephen Harper. Let me put it this way, since I can't vote off Bush this time, I'll try for the next closest thing.

And Gustaf, didn't you vote for Ortega earlier? It's a little ridiculous to vote out a democratic leader, yet argue various dictators shouldn't be voted out yet because they're not as bad as other dictators.

Good to see you living up that principle of voting off dictators before democratically elected leaders. But I guess Canada has a low freedom rating or something.

[Gustaf]

Fouad Siniora

[Gustaf]

I'd like to voice my disappointment in the leftist hacks for denying me the pleasure of taking part in voting Sarkozy off. I was really looking forward to that, but I'm not going to do it before a couple of other guys go.

[Gustaf]

Siniora

[Gustaf]

What is with the Harper voting? Seriously. The guy is the democratically elected leader of one of the most successful countries in the world. It's ridiculous to vote him out before all of these third world leaders.