Agree or Disagree: The Red Army Faction was preferable to the IRA

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Agree.

I can at least understand and somewhat sympathize with the RAF, and they might've had some romantic appeal to me if I lived in Germany at the time, the IRA was just all around trash with absolutely no redeeming value whatsoever.

[Franzl]

disagree, and I find it extremely insulting to think either one could be preferable to anything at all.

[Boris]

I remember reading about the Autumn of 1977 on Wikipedia and thinking "what the hell"

[minionofmidas]

I remember reading about the Autumn of 1977 on Wikipedia and thinking "what the hell"

Yeah, that ended all that romantic attachment.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

A movie about German Autumn would be really cool. Though the odds of one being made in the US are remote, but if the Germans do, I'm willing to read subtitles.

[k-onmmunist]

The IRA are the lowest of the low.

Human scum basically.

Though neither are particularly appealing.

[Boris]

A movie about German Autumn would be really cool. Though the odds of one being made in the US are remote, but if the Germans do, I'm willing to read subtitles.

yeah, maybe Wolfgang Petersen or Tom Tykwer could direct it

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And Tykwer even mostly does movies in English now. That'd be very cool.

[minionofmidas]

There are several.

[Boris]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0765432/

nominated for best foreign language film oscar

[minionofmidas]

Based on the book that made a horribly stupid journalist's undeserved reputation. That he took decades to destroy.
I didn't see it. My mom says it was way too simplistic and silly.
I like seeing Stipe Erceg, though.

[Lief 🗽]

Er, no, of course not.

[Torie]

This is one of those Stalin versus Hitler choices. I pass.

[Gustaf]

Not at all. The IRA is somewhat understandable, they're fighting for a cause that I can get. The RAF is just scum. I can't stand people who grow up in free, democratic state but prefer in theory to live in a dictatorship and then kill people for it.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I can't stand people who grow up in free, democratic state but prefer in theory to live in a dictatorship and then kill people for it.

Sounds like the IRA to me.

[12th Doctor]

Oh, yeah, the Baader Meinhof Group was so awesome...

dude, get a life... seriously.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I didn't say they were awesome, I said they were preferable and more sympathetic.

[12th Doctor]

I didn't say they were awesome, I said they were preferable and more sympathetic.

The RAF were pure terrorist, fighting as radical communist sympathizers against a government that was non-oppressive.

The IRA of the 1970's was a terrible outfit, but the Ulster Unionists weren't great people either.

[12th Doctor]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

Exactly. Are you surprised I can sympathize with that?

I can't sympathize with the IRA at all. They were pure evil as was their cause. They were a 100% worthless group. Honestly I can sympathize more with Hamas than the IRA.

[Associate Justice PiT]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

Exactly. Are you surprised I can sympathize with that?

I can't sympathize with the IRA at all. They were pure evil as was their cause. They were a 100% worthless group. Honestly I can sympathize more with Hamas than the IRA.

     You sympathize with a bunch of indolent fools who failed to learn the lessons of the USSR?

[Lief 🗽]

It's not even that. I have no problem with being a communist or a latte liberal or being "against the man" or something. But the RAF was a terrorist group that murdered innocent people.

[Earth]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

Exactly. Are you surprised I can sympathize with that?

I can't sympathize with the IRA at all. They were pure evil as was their cause. They were a 100% worthless group. Honestly I can sympathize more with Hamas than the IRA.

Pure evil as in fighting for Irish independence? Their tactics were despicable, but their point was definitely miles above the ones held by ridiculous, bourgeois college kids with guns. 

[TeePee4Prez]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

Exactly. Are you surprised I can sympathize with that?

I can't sympathize with the IRA at all. They were pure evil as was their cause. They were a 100% worthless group. Honestly I can sympathize more with Hamas than the IRA.

WOW.  Yes, I know full well the Catholic Church can be overbearing on some issues, but damn I've never come across as overzealously against the IRA as you.  I actually agree with supersoulty on this one.  Yes, the IRA went too far at times, but I don't exactly think the Ulster Orangemen were the greatest people either.  And the potato "famine" wasn't exactly 100% of natural causes.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

And there has always been alot more nuance in the situation in Ireland than there was with the communist terrorist groups of the 1970's, most of which were largely made up of latte liberal college students who opposed "the Man" and thought that communism meant a great utopian paradise.

Exactly. Are you surprised I can sympathize with that?

I can't sympathize with the IRA at all. They were pure evil as was their cause. They were a 100% worthless group. Honestly I can sympathize more with Hamas than the IRA.

WOW.  Yes, I know full well the Catholic Church can be overbearing on some issues, but damn I've never come across as overzealously against the IRA as you.  I actually agree with supersoulty on this one.  Yes, the IRA went too far at times, but I don't exactly think the Ulster Orangemen were the greatest people either.  And the potato "famine" wasn't exactly 100% of natural causes.

It was also well over a century before the modern IRA.