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Question: Should the United States attempt to mediate in regional conflicts throughout the world?
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Lean Yes
 
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Lean No
 
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« on: May 15, 2009, 10:46:31 PM »

32Criminal Trials by Jury81.3; 9.4; 0.0; 3.1; 6.3
1Women in the Military83.3; 5.6; 11.1; 0.0; 0.0
49Permit Plea Bargaining83.3; 4.2; 8.3; 4.2; 0.0
38Aid for Importing Prescription Drugs40.0; 46.7; 0.0; 6.7; 6.7
37Water as a Public Good80.0; 6.7; 0.0; 0.0; 13.3
9Legalize Prostitution73.1; 11.5; 0.0; 3.8; 11.5
19Legalize Marijuana74.0; 10.0; 0.0; 6.0; 10.0
31Jury Nullification79.2; 4.2; 4.2; 4.2; 8.3
53Allow Airlines to Charge for Passengers who Require Extra Seats73.0; 8.1; 0.0; 5.4; 13.5
25Job Outsourcing58.6; 20.7; 6.9; 0.0; 13.8
6Allow Gay Marriage75.9; 6.9; 0.0; 0.0; 17.2
17Government-Sponsored Health Care62.5; 15.0; 0.0; 7.5; 15.0
47Reduce Student Loan Interest64.3; 10.7; 3.6; 0.0; 21.4
26Line-Item Veto47.8; 26.1; 0.0; 8.7; 17.4
22Nuclear Power58.6; 13.8; 6.9; 6.9; 13.8
18Eliminate the Deficit40.0; 32.0; 12.0; 4.0; 12.0
29Doctor-Assisted Suicide56.7; 13.3; 0.0; 10.0; 20.0
30Reduce Military Fudning60.0; 8.6; 0.0; 8.6; 22.9
4Free Trade Expansion41.7; 25.0; 2.8; 11.1; 19.4
44Reduce Stop Light Cameras51.5; 9.1; 12.1; 9.1; 18.2
52Right to Nuclear Energy52.0; 8.0; 4.0; 12.0; 24.0
10Legalize Selling Human Body Parts44.0; 16.0; 0.0; 8.0; 32.0
5Legalize Hard Drugs31.3; 28.1; 6.3; 9.4; 25.0
23Protect Strikers' Jobs50.0; 7.7; 0.0; 19.2; 23.1
15Campaign Finance Reform40.6; 15.6; 3.1; 6.3; 34.4
51Sin Taxes36.7; 16.7; 3.3; 10.0; 33.3
16Funding of Religious Charities19.4; 35.5; 3.2; 16.1; 25.8
21Offshore Drilling30.3; 24.2; 15.2; 12.1; 18.2
48Eliminate Permanent Security Council Positions43.5; 8.7; 4.3; 17.4; 26.1
46Marque and Reprisal against Piracy and Terrorism30.0; 20.0; 20.0; 10.0; 20.0
33Reduce the Corporate Tax36.7; 10.0; 6.7; 16.7; 30.0
34Limit CO2 emissions27.3; 18.2; 18.2; 18.2; 18.2
45Eliminate Copyrights38.5; 3.8; 3.8; 15.4; 38.5
50Public School Uniforms26.7; 13.3; 3.3; 3.3; 53.3
8Punish Illegal Immigrants26.9; 11.5; 0.0; 7.7; 53.8
43Shorten Prison Sentences22.7; 13.6; 18.2; 9.1; 36.4
39Increase Foreign Aid25.0; 10.7; 3.6; 14.3; 46.4
42Mandatory Public School Attendance26.5; 8.8; 0.0; 17.6; 47.1
14Privatize Social Security31.3; 3.1; 9.4; 12.5; 43.8
41Continue Monetary Aid to Israel22.9; 11.4; 0.0; 17.1; 48.6
35Require Helmets for Skiing18.2; 15.2; 3.0; 3.0; 60.6
13Reduce Federal-Owned Lands24.0; 8.0; 24.0; 12.0; 32.0
40Permit Segregation in Prisons18.2; 13.6; 4.5; 18.2; 45.5
12Stricter Gun Control22.6; 3.2; 9.7; 16.1; 48.4
7Eliminate the Income Tax16.1; 9.7; 0.0; 6.5; 67.7
11Restrict Abortion22.9; 0.0; 5.7; 20.0; 51.4
27Allow Procedural Filibuster13.6; 9.1; 4.5; 9.1; 63.6
28Government Price Controls14.8; 3.7; 7.4; 18.5; 55.6
20Censor Indecent Broadcasts3.7; 14.8; 0.0; 18.5; 63.0
24Support NCLB8.0; 8.0; 4.0; 32.0; 48.0
3Return to the Gold Standard9.1; 4.5; 4.5; 9.1; 72.7
2Support the Patriot Act4.0; 4.0; 4.0; 12.0; 76.0
36Ability to ban Films and Video Games5.6; 0.0; 2.8; 13.9; 77.8
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 11:03:07 PM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 11:08:37 PM »

I picked "Lean Yes," by which I mean, "Yes, but do it right."
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 11:13:58 PM »

I picked "Lean Yes," by which I mean, "Yes, but do it right."

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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 11:28:38 PM »

The "whole world" bit off puts me.  Are Western Europe and Japan, Brazil, and India, etc., just the null set, who have no "responsibility" to do anything?  I don't think so, and beyond that, in areas where they have the primary interest and responsibility, it would be a useful lesson that doing nothing, and sitting on your ass, and just letting Uncle Sam do it, will have costs.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 12:37:10 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 06:49:54 AM »

Lean No. We tend to just make things worse. That and we have enough problems as it is without taking on other people's.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 09:53:09 AM »

In general, I would 'lean no'. It's not solely an American job to undertake when conflict arises, but there are definite instances were it could be warranted. Specifically speaking of mediating.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 11:04:41 AM »

Yes -who else is going to be able to do that?  India?  China?  Russia?  The EU?  Come on....
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 01:45:49 PM »

Absolutely not.  We should stay out of other countries' business.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 02:08:59 PM »

Lean Yea.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 06:45:51 PM »

Lean yes, but

The "whole world" bit off puts me.  Are Western Europe and Japan, Brazil, and India, etc., just the null set, who have no "responsibility" to do anything?  I don't think so, and beyond that, in areas where they have the primary interest and responsibility, it would be a useful lesson that doing nothing, and sitting on your ass, and just letting Uncle Sam do it, will have costs.

I suppose that the reason that those countries don't take a more direct role is because they aren't used to taking the lead.  I mean, outside of the 6-party talks with North Korea, when was the last time in 60 years that any European country has lead the way in anything?
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 11:10:25 PM »

Hard No
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 11:15:04 PM »

Absolutely not.  We should stay out of other countries' business.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 11:23:51 PM »

I picked "Lean Yes," by which I mean, "Yes, but do it right."

That.

Of course, what "doing it right" really involves is a debate in and of itself. We have caused just about as many problems as we solved, so I lean yes, but hope more thought is given to the consequences in the future.
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 11:25:16 PM »

Can any of the 'Yes' people cite an instance where this has led to a good outcome. I can cite several where it had led to a horrible outcome.
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2009, 12:51:10 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2009, 12:55:56 AM »

Can any of the 'Yes' people cite an instance where this has led to a good outcome. I can cite several where it had led to a horrible outcome.

To name a few (and by no means a conclusive list):
WWI, WWII, Korea, Bosnia, Gulf War, Rwanda (albeit late)
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2009, 02:03:37 AM »

Can any of the 'Yes' people cite an instance where this has led to a good outcome. I can cite several where it had led to a horrible outcome.

To name a few (and by no means a conclusive list):
WWI, WWII, Korea, Bosnia, Gulf War, Rwanda (albeit late)

I would disagree that WWI and WWII were mediating in regional wars.  WWI had the Zimmermann Telegram and WWII had Pearl Harbor.  Now, granted we got more involved than we had to to defeat only German and Japan respectively, but I think it's unfair to put WWI and WWII in the same list as Bosnia and Rwanda.
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2009, 03:18:55 AM »

No way. Not without the help of other countries, and by that I mean more than just the British. I don't see why America is responsible for mediating conflicts around the world. If a situation gets so bad that outside intervention is required, then it should be a world effort and not a solely American one. Not to mention it makes us look like colonialists.
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2009, 10:51:51 AM »

No way. Not without the help of other countries, and by that I mean more than just the British. I don't see why America is responsible for mediating conflicts around the world. If a situation gets so bad that outside intervention is required, then it should be a world effort and not a solely American one. Not to mention it makes us look like colonialists.
The problem is that there is no organization to delegate who does what.  It's a travesty that things like Darfur can go on in the 21st century while the West sits around with our thumbs up our collective asses.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2009, 11:33:01 AM »

Can any of the 'Yes' people cite an instance where this has led to a good outcome. I can cite several where it had led to a horrible outcome.

To name a few (and by no means a conclusive list):
WWI, WWII, Korea, Bosnia, Gulf War, Rwanda (albeit late)

WWI led to the rise of Communism, Fascism, and Nazism, and ultimately led to a greater conflict a mere twenty years later.
WWII cost the lives of over 50 million people and led to the Soviet domination of half of Europe, the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, forced repatriation of Soviet POWs, ethnic cleansing of Germans from Eastern Europe, and half a century of Cold War. Best case scenario would be a lesser of two evil outcomes, but certainly not a good outcome.
Korea had over 50,000 Americans die for a stalemate between two dictators.
I don't have enough info on Bosnia to comment, but I doubt bombing innocents could be considered a good outcome.
The Gulf War reinstated the Kuwaiti monarch, and led to the sanctions that killed half of million Iraqi children, which Osama would include in his fatwa against America.
I don't have enough info on Rwanda either, but I can hardly consider a good outcome one where 1 million people die.

Now here's a few (not a conclusive list) that didn't have a good outcome:
Operation Ajax, Bay of Pigs, Guatemalan coup de`tat, Vietnam, Chilean coup de`tat, Soviet-Afghan War, Iran-Iraq War, Nicaragua, Panama, Somalia, Haiti, Angola, Kosovo, Afghanistan (again), Iraq (again)
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