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« on: May 16, 2009, 12:56:29 AM »

I hate math and all things relating to math. My brain just can't function well with numbers for some reason while I can memorize and reason with lots of history and social science better than my history teacher. I do not like this.
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 12:58:40 AM »

     I love math. I find social sciences to be impossibly boring for the most part, though. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 01:01:06 AM »

     I love math. I find social sciences to be impossibly boring for the most part, though. Funny how that works, isn't it?
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 01:03:41 AM »

People are always so hostile to math.  They rant and rave about how evil it.  You'll never see a math major ranting and raving on literature or the social sciences though.

Not to say that EMD was doing this, but a lot of people do.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 01:20:36 AM »

     I love math. I find social sciences to be impossibly boring for the most part, though. Funny how that works, isn't it?

Isn't this forum kind of an odd place for you to be posting then?
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 02:17:06 AM »

I had a thing with reading long uninteresting novels in school.  Vocabulary and grammar had to assist me in my English grade in HS.  Interestingly, I loved history, Model UN, politics, and math.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 02:24:10 AM »

I loved math (and still do) up through Geometry.  When it turned more into theory and imaginary numbers and that "f of x" BS I threw in the towel.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 07:51:20 AM »

People are always so hostile to math.  They rant and rave about how evil it.  You'll never see a math major ranting and raving on literature or the social sciences though.

Not to say that EMD was doing this, but a lot of people do.

No, they just ramble about how it's a 'real' major and people doing anything with liberal arts aren't on the same level.

Anyway, yeah I am not a fan. I was horrible when I was younger, now I can pass for mediocre at it. I can work with budgets or basic economics (in fact I love the latter), but give me sigma notations or whatever and my eyes glaze over.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 07:54:59 AM »

I didn't like math as a child.  In high school, I would never finish tests, so all but two of Bs I got on my report cards were in math classes.  During college, I was diagnosed with both ADD and Dyslexia.  Once I was able to use the ADA for more time, math wasn't a problem.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 08:15:30 AM »

Who syas math and social sciences are opposed? [/econ major]
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 08:23:58 AM »

Most of the major studies are interesting, especially if you don't understand them easily at first.
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 09:14:43 AM »

I'm not sure from EMD's post whether his problem is solely with the computational aspect of math, but there's more to it then that. There are other equally important skills. For instance story problems develop the ability to relate a verbal description to an abstract form, and helps in areas from utilizing a computer to crafting a rigorous argument.

Another often overlooked skill area in math is the interpretation of data and results. We regularly see mathematical output in everyday life, but math gives the training to put this into context. Just think of all the polling data last fall as an example of where math fluency can help in understanding, and all the articles noted on this forum where the media got it wrong due to lack of fluency in math.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 09:39:47 AM »

The two things in the world that I can do really, really well are calculus and memorizing and talking about stuff related to the Social Sciences. Don't ask me to do anything remotely art-related, though.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 10:42:33 AM »

I don't like math either Tongue  I managed to pull an A- in my Math for Design class because we got to pick how much we wanted things to be worth (within a range).  I decided to have the art projects worth the most and I got A's on those.  The tests, attendance, and homework, however...... Tongue

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 10:54:11 AM »

I suppose technical training is necessary for those who must toil for their bread.
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 01:55:55 PM »

I hate math too. Numbers and all that don't come easily too me, damn quantitative stuff. Tongue I'm better with qualitative stuff. So I've always been bad at math, the best I could pull off were B's by working a ton and aceing the hw while getting bad grades on tests. Same for the mandatory Accounting and Econ classes I had to take.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2009, 02:01:32 PM »

I hate math.  I hate it more than anything else in the entire world.
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 02:06:32 PM »

I don't hate math. I think it's an important subject that you need to know. But it certainly isn't my favorite subject. It's so easy to get behind in Math. I'm currently in Geometry. The proof tables suck majorly, and I'm terrible at it. Thankfully, we haven't been doing any this grading period, so I have an A in there.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 03:00:01 PM »

I loved math (and still do) up through Geometry.  When it turned more into theory and imaginary numbers and that "f of x" BS I threw in the towel.

Yeah, same here.  I loved algebra because it represented operations that actually happened, and it seemed logical to me.  Geometry was fine too.  Loved stats.  Precalc was pushing it, and by the time I got to calc, I decided that I didn't want to spend an hour a night trying to understand theory stuff that I didn't care about.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 04:59:18 PM »

     I love math. I find social sciences to be impossibly boring for the most part, though. Funny how that works, isn't it?

Isn't this forum kind of an odd place for you to be posting then?

     Not at all. I got interested in politics exactly because of my love for statistics. Besides, not all social sciences are created equal. I'd rather smash my foot with a hammer than study human geography.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 08:39:27 PM »

     I love math. I find social sciences to be impossibly boring for the most part, though. Funny how that works, isn't it?

Isn't this forum kind of an odd place for you to be posting then?

Why would it be?

I suppose technical training is necessary for those who must toil for their bread.

It's better than writing some bullsh**t essay on Faulkner.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 09:05:13 PM »

I loved math (and still do) up through Geometry.  When it turned more into theory and imaginary numbers and that "f of x" BS I threw in the towel.

Yeah, same here.  I loved algebra because it represented operations that actually happened, and it seemed logical to me.  Geometry was fine too.  Loved stats.  Precalc was pushing it, and by the time I got to calc, I decided that I didn't want to spend an hour a night trying to understand theory stuff that I didn't care about.

This is a key problem in math today. There is just as much application to the real world for calc as there is with alg. However, much of our curriculum seems to be designed to teach people how to be computers, rather than how to use and interpret computers. This changes the direction of the theory taught to the non-major. I'm hoping that as this century unfolds, we recognize this reality.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 09:23:28 PM »

I loved math (and still do) up through Geometry.  When it turned more into theory and imaginary numbers and that "f of x" BS I threw in the towel.

Yeah, same here.  I loved algebra because it represented operations that actually happened, and it seemed logical to me.  Geometry was fine too.  Loved stats.  Precalc was pushing it, and by the time I got to calc, I decided that I didn't want to spend an hour a night trying to understand theory stuff that I didn't care about.

This is a key problem in math today. There is just as much application to the real world for calc as there is with alg. However, much of our curriculum seems to be designed to teach people how to be computers, rather than how to use and interpret computers. This changes the direction of the theory taught to the non-major. I'm hoping that as this century unfolds, we recognize this reality.
Precisely. It may be true that calculus has more uses in every day life than any other subject in the realm of math. It's just that these uses are far more obscure and underutilized.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2009, 09:33:50 PM »

I loved math (and still do) up through Geometry.  When it turned more into theory and imaginary numbers and that "f of x" BS I threw in the towel.

Yeah, same here.  I loved algebra because it represented operations that actually happened, and it seemed logical to me.  Geometry was fine too.  Loved stats.  Precalc was pushing it, and by the time I got to calc, I decided that I didn't want to spend an hour a night trying to understand theory stuff that I didn't care about.

This is a key problem in math today. There is just as much application to the real world for calc as there is with alg. However, much of our curriculum seems to be designed to teach people how to be computers, rather than how to use and interpret computers. This changes the direction of the theory taught to the non-major. I'm hoping that as this century unfolds, we recognize this reality.
Precisely. It may be true that calculus has more uses in every day life than any other subject in the realm of math. It's just that these uses are far more obscure and underutilized.

     Calculus is by far my favorite field of math precisely because it is so useful in real world applications. I never really appreciated math until I started studying physics. It's only natural then that I would want to show my appreciation for the area of math that was spawned to help solve the problems that Newton ran into in explaining physical phenomena.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2009, 09:37:30 PM »

Who syas math and social sciences are opposed? [/econ major]

Who says they shouldn't be? Wink

I'm good at math, but I hate it.  It's nonsensical gobbledigook past geometry, pretty much, useless for anyone but engineers and other people who don't like to see a person ever.  that applies doubly for you calc worshippers.

(these statements do not include His Royal Holiness the Discipline of Statistics, o/c).
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