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Question: Which of those do you consider as the worst president of United States ?
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Herbert Hoover
 
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George Bush
 
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2009, 07:08:57 PM »

George W. Bush hands down. Others on this list had good intentions but were simply ineffective. GWB had no redeeming traits and was only interested in the power of himself and certain others and no compassion for anyone else.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2009, 07:15:55 PM »

IMHO, the five worst were:
1. Andrew Johnson
2. James Buchanan
3. Woodrow Wilson
4. George W. Bush
5. Andrew Jackson
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2009, 08:11:08 PM »

Buchanan is the worst. Grant is a close second.
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2009, 08:48:45 PM »

Wilson is without a doubt our worst two-term president;  Buchanan our worst one-term president.  You can argue the case for either, but I'll pick Wilson as worst since it is difficult to imagine any other president during Buchanan's term doing well, they'd just be able to not ef up as much as he did.
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2009, 09:04:27 PM »

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« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2009, 09:07:07 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 12:58:21 AM »

Buchanan (although Harding was pretty bad too)
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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2009, 02:59:35 AM »
« Edited: May 17, 2009, 03:01:30 AM by Antonio V »

George W. Bush hands down. Others on this list had good intentions but were simply ineffective. GWB had no redeeming traits and was only interested in the power of himself and certain others and no compassion for anyone else.

I don't think so. I think Bush really believed in the inanities he said, he really belived that he was saving the world with destroying Iraq and abolishing civil liberties. He was just one of the worst idiots the world ever knew, an idiot who hates intelligence.

Wilson is without a doubt our worst two-term president;  Buchanan our worst one-term president.  You can argue the case for either, but I'll pick Wilson as worst since it is difficult to imagine any other president during Buchanan's term doing well, they'd just be able to not ef up as much as he did.

What did Wilson of so bad ? I personally think he was a great president.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 01:35:51 PM »

George W. Bush hands down. Others on this list had good intentions but were simply ineffective. GWB had no redeeming traits and was only interested in the power of himself and certain others and no compassion for anyone else.

I don't think so. I think Bush really believed in the inanities he said, he really belived that he was saving the world with destroying Iraq and abolishing civil liberties. He was just one of the worst idiots the world ever knew, an idiot who hates intelligence.

Quite an objective analysis.

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al. Needless to say J.W. Booth was the best thing to come along during his presidency. Unfortunately he became a player about 2 years to late.

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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 01:38:51 PM »

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al.

Sounds like someone else we know, whose only difference from that list is that he was on the side of the south.

Davis? Not hardly.
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 01:45:48 PM »

Quite an objective analysis.

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al. Needless to say J.W. Booth was the best thing to come along during his presidency. Unfortunately he became a player about 2 years to late.



Wow. Eulogy of a political assassination, plus those of the man who abolished slavery. Not exactly what you need to convince me that you are not very, very rightist.

Thanks for Bush anyways.
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2009, 01:56:07 PM »

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al.
Sounds like someone else we know, whose only difference from that list is that he was on the side of the south.
Davis? Not hardly.

No, Bush.

Bush didn't do any of that, so try again.

Quite an objective analysis.

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al. Needless to say J.W. Booth was the best thing to come along during his presidency. Unfortunately he became a player about 2 years to late.



Wow. Eulogy of a political assassination, plus those of the man who abolished slavery. Not exactly what you need to convince me that you are not very, very rightist.

Thanks for Bush anyways.

War is hell, when you needlessly rape women and use human shields the end can't be to happy. Just like Hitler and Mussolini got the justice they deserved.

And the idea that Lincoln abolished slavery is one of the biggest myths of the War for Southern Independence.
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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2009, 01:59:36 PM »

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al.
Sounds like someone else we know, whose only difference from that list is that he was on the side of the south.
Davis? Not hardly.

No, Bush.

Bush didn't do any of that, so try again.

Quite an objective analysis.

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al. Needless to say J.W. Booth was the best thing to come along during his presidency. Unfortunately he became a player about 2 years to late.



Wow. Eulogy of a political assassination, plus those of the man who abolished slavery. Not exactly what you need to convince me that you are not very, very rightist.

Thanks for Bush anyways.

War is hell, when you needlessly rape women and use human shields the end can't be to happy. Just like Hitler and Mussolini got the justice they deserved.

And the idea that Lincoln abolished slavery is one of the biggest myths of the War for Southern Independence.

Ah, yes. Someone else ( a southerner, certainly ) falsified Lincoln's signature on abolition act, because Lincoln refused to sign.
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2009, 02:03:49 PM »

Wilson is without a doubt our worst two-term president;  Buchanan our worst one-term president.  You can argue the case for either, but I'll pick Wilson as worst since it is difficult to imagine any other president during Buchanan's term doing well, they'd just be able to not ef up as much as he did.

What did Wilson of so bad ? I personally think he was a great president.

There are quite a few things he did badly, such as his interventions in Mexico, his efforts to purge all non-whites from governments jobs (except janitors and the like), but nothing stands so much as what he did in relation to the World War.  His policies prolonged the World War needlessly and helped to ultimately bring about the Bolshevik Revolution and all that entailed; he trampled on civil liberties in doing so; his high-minded rhetoric of self-determination was with his full approval only applied when doing so served the interests of the victorious Allies (and of course, only for "enlightened" white peoples).

Just about everything that people complain about George W. Bush doing, was done first by Thomas W. Wilson and to greater harm.

As for his pre-war accomplishments, just about anyone elected to the Presidency on the Democratic ticket in 1912 would have done those, so I can't really see giving him credit for them.  (BTW, had it not been for the fact that the Democrats still had a two-thirds majority of the delegates requirement in 1912, Champ Clark would have been the Democratic nominee that year, as he had a first ballot majority.)
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2009, 02:04:54 PM »

The emancipation proclamation was a political move. I'd strongly suggest you go read about the proclamation before assuming it actually had any power.

http://www.nps.gov/anti/historyculture/freedom.htm
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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2009, 02:33:53 PM »

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al. Needless to say J.W. Booth was the best thing to come along during his presidency. Unfortunately he became a player about 2 years to late.



Ahh, yes of course. If only Booth had acted a couple of years before, you would still have your own plantation and a bunch of slaves to serve you.
And of course you d'have Stark as your loyal foreman.
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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2009, 02:59:46 PM »

Wilson is #2 on my last. Bush did a lot of what both Lincoln and Wilson did. Lincoln and Bush both started wars and neither seems it was in our best interest.

Wilson gave us the Federal Reserve and the income tax.

FDR and LBJ and #3 and #4, mainly for the New Deal and the Great Society.
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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2009, 03:01:09 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2009, 04:17:17 PM »

Buchanan, followed closely by Woodrow Wilson and Hoover.
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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2009, 04:21:22 PM »

The emancipation proclamation was a political move. I'd strongly suggest you go read about the proclamation before assuming it actually had any power.

http://www.nps.gov/anti/historyculture/freedom.htm

Just the fact he signed it is enough for me. He did an historical thing by signing this paper, even if we needed LBJ to finish what he began.


Wilson is without a doubt our worst two-term president;  Buchanan our worst one-term president.  You can argue the case for either, but I'll pick Wilson as worst since it is difficult to imagine any other president during Buchanan's term doing well, they'd just be able to not ef up as much as he did.

What did Wilson of so bad ? I personally think he was a great president.

There are quite a few things he did badly, such as his interventions in Mexico, his efforts to purge all non-whites from governments jobs (except janitors and the like), but nothing stands so much as what he did in relation to the World War.  His policies prolonged the World War needlessly and helped to ultimately bring about the Bolshevik Revolution and all that entailed; he trampled on civil liberties in doing so; his high-minded rhetoric of self-determination was with his full approval only applied when doing so served the interests of the victorious Allies (and of course, only for "enlightened" white peoples).

Just about everything that people complain about George W. Bush doing, was done first by Thomas W. Wilson and to greater harm.

As for his pre-war accomplishments, just about anyone elected to the Presidency on the Democratic ticket in 1912 would have done those, so I can't really see giving him credit for them.  (BTW, had it not been for the fact that the Democrats still had a two-thirds majority of the delegates requirement in 1912, Champ Clark would have been the Democratic nominee that year, as he had a first ballot majority.)

You could be right. He had many defect, but I still believe tat his vision of international policies was a good one. About internal policies, income tax, senators direct election and right to vote for women were great progresses.


Wilson is #2 on my last. Bush did a lot of what both Lincoln and Wilson did. Lincoln and Bush both started wars and neither seems it was in our best interest.

Wilson gave us the Federal Reserve and the income tax.

FDR and LBJ and #3 and #4, mainly for the New Deal and the Great Society.

Income tax ? What an horror !!! Shocked Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2009, 04:55:10 PM »

Buchanan was terrible.
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« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2009, 05:10:21 PM »

Buchanan, GWB, Reagan or Hoover.
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« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2009, 05:34:33 PM »

Lincoln was quite easily the worst. From removing civil liberties, throwing citizens in jail with no trial or charges, using human shields during war time, not prosecuting war crimes, et al.

Sounds like someone else we know, whose only difference from that list is that he was on the side of the south.

Davis? Not hardly.

Jefferson Davis suspended habeas corpus, introduced the draft, and jailed Northern sympathizers. I have never understood those Southern revanchists who make the Confederacy out to be a minarchist wunderland, as the excesses and atrocities were about equal on both sides.
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« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2009, 07:40:07 PM »

What did Wilson of so bad ? I personally think he was a great president.

There are quite a few things he did badly, such as his interventions in Mexico, his efforts to purge all non-whites from governments jobs (except janitors and the like), but nothing stands so much as what he did in relation to the World War.  His policies prolonged the World War needlessly and helped to ultimately bring about the Bolshevik Revolution and all that entailed; he trampled on civil liberties in doing so; his high-minded rhetoric of self-determination was with his full approval only applied when doing so served the interests of the victorious Allies (and of course, only for "enlightened" white peoples).

Just about everything that people complain about George W. Bush doing, was done first by Thomas W. Wilson and to greater harm.

As for his pre-war accomplishments, just about anyone elected to the Presidency on the Democratic ticket in 1912 would have done those, so I can't really see giving him credit for them.

You could be right. He had many defect, but I still believe that his vision of international policies was a good one. About internal policies, income tax, senators direct election and right to vote for women were great progresses.

Wilson opposed women's suffrage until the political cost was too high.  Wilson had nothing to do with either the Sixteenth (income tax) or Seventeenth (direct Senate election) Amendments as they were already undergoing State ratification when he took office.
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« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2009, 08:59:31 PM »

Andrew "genocide" Jackson.
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