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« Reply #50 on: May 18, 2009, 11:49:56 PM »

Most regional position I hold is support of the death penalty for murder, rape, treason, certain other heinous crimes too like *piracy*.  Smiley  But my support is pre-conditioned on the simultaneous requirement that these people be offed quickly (3-5 years max).  Maybe this is the most controversial.  Smiley
Same pretty much.
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« Reply #51 on: May 18, 2009, 11:59:55 PM »

With the way this site is getting, it might be my position against gay marriage and civil unions.  Smiley

jmfcst says that I'm a radical right-winger in terms of economics.  Naturally, he's wrong, but I steadfastly refuse to drink the Keynesian/Friedmanist koolaid on these matters.  And I believe in strong enforcement of securities laws, which really makes that point hard to justify.

Less controversial is the fact that I'm pretty much an absolutist in the matter of free speech, a la Black and Douglas (if anyone knows what that really means).

Most regional position I hold is support of the death penalty for murder, rape, treason, certain other heinous crimes too like *piracy*.  Smiley  But my support is pre-conditioned on the simultaneous requirement that these people be offed quickly (3-5 years max).  Maybe this is the most controversial.  Smiley

That is all pretty pedestrian Sam. Surely you can do "better" than that. Tongue

The upper middle class male youngs who dominate this site, are hardly representative of the Fruited Plain, and that is the context here no (i.e., what would shock the Fruited Plain, not this site)?   Heck, with the inimitable and prolific inter alia  BRTD, what could possibly be of shock value on this site? Smiley

I know - pretty boring.

Maybe BRTD can pull up the line I said to the effect of that it would be more likely that Obama would be carried out of the White House than a recovery happen during this term.

But that's a prediction, not an position.
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« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2009, 12:13:53 AM »

And as far as the Pledge of Allegiance is concerned, the whole thing should be abolished, not just the 'under God' line.

You can't really abolish it so to speak. You could however remove its official status in government, which I would strongly support.

Well of course.  I find it really unsettling that public school children say the Pledge every morning.  Of course a student can opt not to say it, but they shouldn't really be put in that position in the first place.
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« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2009, 12:16:02 AM »

Oh, and I'll mention one I haven't seen yet: I would strike all references to God from currency.  And as far as the Pledge of Allegiance is concerned, the whole thing should be abolished, not just the 'under God' line.

I have a very moderate view on that issue. Return it to the original, more musically correct version, as written by a clergyman. That of course consists of removing "under god".
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« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2009, 12:24:32 AM »

Marokai Blue, you can try convincing me than incest should be legalized.
I'm receptive to what you will say. That was how I was convinced to be pro-legalization of prostitution.

Well, why do you oppose it?
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« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2009, 12:28:51 AM »

Electoral Reform:
Moving the United States to an STV system. The creation of a prime minister (basically the Speaker of the House obtaining more power) in charge of the creation of the departments, greatly reducing the powers of the president.

Environment:
Actually creating high-speed rail in most high-density regions. Stopping funding for most road widening projects. Gov. funding for high-rise buildings and high-density housing. Gov. funding for parks. The elimination of coal and most oil for electricity except in emergencies. Implementing a new national CCC. Making people pay for water based upon the impact on the environment (to increase the cost of living in Phoenix and lower its population...) Government inspection of homeowners and houses that far outpace their electrical needs. Huge increases in funding for a variety of renewable energy resources. Government funding for recycling programs in every city, county, and state and the eventual reduction of garbage to about 1% of waste. And I guess that sums it up...

And a reform of the education system, mostly the creation of more colleges. Maybe not too extreme, but I care a lot about this.
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« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2009, 12:29:42 AM »

Marokai Blue, you can try convincing me than incest should be legalized.
I'm receptive to what you will say. That was how I was convinced to be pro-legalization of prostitution.

Well, why do you oppose it?

1. Child can be with genetics problems.
2. Not able to know if that is really love.
3. Love should not exist between those persons. They are not able to live a true familial relationship.
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« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2009, 01:05:44 AM »

Oh, I'm sure I have some, though they are mostly escaping me at the moment. Hmm...the only one that comes to mind is that I believe the anti-abortion movement should use more images of aborted fetuses as educational and persuasive material.

Well, there are a couple fantasies that I have. I wish that all borders could some day be abolished. I wish that the need for individual countries would go away. I wish that the world could come together to build a space elevator or some sort of similar device. I wish that we would massively increase space exploration and research. I wish that we would terraform Mars, Venus, and the Moon. There are no words to describe how awesome that would be. Just to stand unhindered on another world...

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« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2009, 01:16:32 AM »

Oh, I'm sure I have some, though they are mostly escaping me at the moment. Hmm...the only one that comes to mind is that I believe the anti-abortion movement should use more images of aborted fetuses as educational and persuasive material.

Well, there are a couple fantasies that I have. I wish that all borders could some day be abolished. I wish that the need for individual countries would go away. I wish that the world could come together to build a space elevator or some sort of similar device. I wish that we would massively increase space exploration and research. I wish that we would terraform Mars, Venus, and the Moon. There are no words to describe how awesome that would be. Just to stand unhindered on another world...

If only...sigh Sad

I've always hoped I live to see the day when we start construction of a moon colony. I hold out hope Smiley
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« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2009, 03:06:02 AM »

Corporal punishment for adults is the nuttiest I can think of right now.
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« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2009, 04:03:20 AM »

Legalization of war material, as long as it cannot kill more than 100 people with one instantaneous initiation of the trigger.

This isn't without precedent, as the war of 1812 was fought for the most part with privately owned artillery.
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« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2009, 06:55:45 AM »

Radically anti-union. If there's a story about some strike on TV, I'm always pissed off and normally yelling.
Radically anti-clerical and secular. Remove all occurrences of God or state-sanctioned religion/religious activities from public institutions.
Maybe protection of all local and regional languages counts too.
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« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2009, 08:54:38 AM »

Oh, and I'll mention one I haven't seen yet: I would strike all references to God from currency.  And as far as the Pledge of Allegiance is concerned, the whole thing should be abolished, not just the 'under God' line.

I have a very moderate view on that issue. Return it to the original, more musically correct version, as written by a clergyman. That of course consists of removing "under god".

Good liberal cliche, to be sure, but can you really defend indoctrinating children to be nationalistic every school morning?
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« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2009, 09:18:25 AM »
« Edited: May 19, 2009, 02:55:04 PM by Fading Frodo »

Not sure if these qualify, but they are definitely out of the mainstream, or so I observe:

1. As part of comprehensive sex education programs in public schools, I also advocate encouraging young girls to explore their sexuality through masturbation as opposed to having sex. 

2. Support legalizing brothels while keeping street prostitution illegal.

3. Make Las Vegas 'ground zero' for the gambling, prostitution (brothels), pornography, and sex toy industries. 

4. With China expanding its military might (especially given the fact that it is not a democractic republic), I would support eventually re-establishing U.S. military bases in the Philippines, particularly Clark Air Field (Air Force), Subic Naval Base (Navy), and at Mariveles (another Navy facility) at the foot of the Bataan peninsula (and maybe an Army/Marines base near Baguio, too, as well as a Special Forces base on Mindanao) to complement the bases we already have on Guam, South Korea, and Japan. 

5. Terraforming Mars, and creating our first extraterrestrial colony.

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« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2009, 10:42:34 AM »

1. Already happening, the only odd thing I see there is applying it only to girls.
2. Very far from radical, and already the law in some counties.
3. Keeping the status quo is radical?
4. The topic doesn't come up much, but that sounds like it would have much support if it was asked.
5. Yes, that classifies.
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« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2009, 11:15:57 AM »
« Edited: May 19, 2009, 11:23:21 AM by Earth »

A lot of people would balk at the thought of these, but I feel they're the best option regarding these issues:

- Legalizing all drugs, without regulating potency, and giving the opportunity to create legitimate businesses out of it. Prohibiting companies from denying to hire drug users.

- Legalizing incestuous marriages- It's no one's business to deny a couple to be able to get married, even if they are blood relatives.

- Legalize all forms of prostitution, from street walking, and brothels, to escorts.

- Withdrawing from the UN.

- Abolishing the federal income tax.

- Abolishing age of consent laws, replaced with age gap laws (not particularly a heavy issue on my mind, but one I'd support)

- Complete, open borders. No need for passports or naturalization process, just a few forms to fill out.

- Ending of all pedophile name publication to the general public in order to protect their well being from retaliation.

- Opposition to free trade as we have it today.

- Severe reduction in military budgets.

- Voluntary, as opposed to mandatory, schooling.

- Government funded food banks, where perishables are collected from manufacturers, and sold at a very, very low rate to those that need it; from the poor to the middle class. A sort of sponsored salvation army-esque store for food. No need for cards, or to prove financial situation.
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« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2009, 11:52:46 AM »

Abolishing all sales and property taxes (and pretty much all other taxes and fees for that matter) except the income tax, which would be correspondingly raised sufficiently to make up for the revenue loss.

Obviously preventing fraud would be the biggest problem, but it could be done.
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« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2009, 02:50:43 PM »

Well most people would say my protectionist stances Wink

I'm way more protectionist than you are.
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« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2009, 04:20:52 PM »

Corporal punishment for adults is the nuttiest I can think of right now.

Plus, you would have some adults "volunteering".  Trust me on this.
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« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2009, 04:25:40 PM »

Oh!  Duh!  I forgot the one position I hold that a lot of people consider crazy.

I would remove "In God We Trust" from our money...any mention of God or religion from our taxpayer financed buildings and institutions and, of course, remove "under God" from the pledge.

My interest in this is two fold.

1.  As a Christian, I take seriously the admonition to do to others as I would have done to me.  I would not have my tax dollars used to promote the dominant religion of this land if it happened to be Islam or Buddhism or what have you.  Therefore, I wish to see those of other religions (or no religion) treated as I would wish to be treated, were I in their moccasins.

2.   This is a biggie -- it is in the interest of organized religion, particularly Christianity, not to be state-sponsored in anyway.  Separation of Church and State protects much more than the state.  The right of churches and religious organizations  -- even to proselytize on their own dime -- would be jealously guarded.
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« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2009, 04:25:57 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2009, 04:34:43 PM by TakeOurCountryBack »

Striking down any teaching of religious ideas in a school atmosphere.  This would also mean no more home-schooling.  I seem to tick a lot of people off with that position.  I certainly understand why, but at the same time I think it is very much in the best interest for our progress as a people.  Religion can easily be taught outside of school, and I think the ideas are over-legitimized when applied in an atmosphere that is meant to teach children the facts about the world and best ready them to survive in it.  At least in church it is seperate from your education and the child has a better sense that they have a choice in whether or not they want to accept what they are being taught.  If you go on to accept the teachings, that's fine, but I don't think a private, religious school gives children the chance to truly take a unbiased look at things. 

Flame away.  Remember, I KNOW this is an extreme, very, very leftist position. 
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« Reply #71 on: May 20, 2009, 06:47:45 PM »

Corporal punishment for adults is the nuttiest I can think of right now.

Plus, you would have some adults "volunteering".  Trust me on this.

You'd be #1 in line? Hahahaa

Reminds me of our local anchor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfnbdz1khIU


My craziest position :

I support US imperialism, true imperialism of the British Empire variety. Of course the goal would be to spread our Republican style of government. Pretty much close to Manifest Destiny.
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« Reply #72 on: May 20, 2009, 07:15:02 PM »

I support US imperialism, true imperialism of the British Empire variety. Of course the goal would be to spread our Republican style of government. Pretty much close to Manifest Destiny.

The strange (sad) thing is, I agree with that more than a little bit.  Not holding permanent settlements, but maybe for 20-25 years, and then letting them go.
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« Reply #73 on: May 20, 2009, 08:48:07 PM »

Corporal punishment for adults is the nuttiest I can think of right now.

Plus, you would have some adults "volunteering".  Trust me on this.

You'd be #1 in line? Hahahaa

Reminds me of our local anchor : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfnbdz1khIU


My craziest position :

I support US imperialism, true imperialism of the British Empire variety. Of course the goal would be to spread our Republican style of government. Pretty much close to Manifest Destiny.

I'm assuming you felt differently about it in the 1860's however. Wink
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« Reply #74 on: May 20, 2009, 09:13:42 PM »

The Confederacy supported the idea of Manifest Destiny as well. Roll Eyes
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