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Expanding Nuclear Energy
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Question:
Do you support expanding nuclear energy to meet CO2 emissions reductions?
Democrat: Yes
15 (31.3%)
Democrat: No
2 (4.2%)
Republican: Yes
14 (29.2%)
Republican: No
1 (2.1%)
independent/third party: Yes
14 (29.2%)
independent/third party: No
2 (4.2%)
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Total Voters: 47
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Topic: Expanding Nuclear Energy (Read 4120 times)
Frodo
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Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 08:53:26 am »
I know we had an earlier poll on this topic, but this time I want to break it down by party.
You already know what I think.....
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Frodo
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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Reply #1 on:
May 21, 2009, 09:02:08 am »
And by 'expanding nuclear energy', I mean by building new power plants (preferably by displacing existing coal plants in certain regions of the country, like the South and the Midwest) and retrofitting existing ones.
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dead0man
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 09:09:49 am »
Yes of course (normal) Only people that hate the enviroment would vote no.
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Mint
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 12:23:18 pm »
Yes (Not hysterical)
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CARLHAYDEN
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 12:27:51 pm »
Frodo,
Your "question" includes two disparate elements.
I favor building more nuclear powerplant to meet our need for electricity.
I would like those who profess as concern for Carbon Dioxide emissions to themselves set an example, and stop emitting Carbon Dioxide.
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Keystone Phil
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May 21, 2009, 01:32:28 pm »
Of course
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May 21, 2009, 01:47:42 pm »
Yes, I would love to see a surge in the production of nuclear energy.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 06:50:01 pm »
Yes.
Nuclear power is much more efficient at providing energy. Of course we have to find a suitable place to store spent fuel, but there really isn't anything I can think of that coal power has over nuclear.
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Evilmexicandictator
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 06:58:59 pm »
I'm not mentally challenged so yes.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 21, 2009, 07:19:46 pm »
Absolutely.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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Reply #10 on:
May 21, 2009, 07:51:06 pm »
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: slightly qualified, limited yes.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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Reply #11 on:
May 22, 2009, 12:16:07 am »
This is great. Last time we did this a few on the left were still anti-nuke power (if I remember correctly). Either ignorance has been fought and defeated or the ignorant are afraid to post in this thread (or I'm remembering wrong).
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Quote from: Martha Gellhorn for The Atlantic 1961
The unique misfortune of the Palestinian refugees is that they are a weapon in what seems to be a permanent war...today, in the Middle East, you get a repeated sinking sensation about the Palestinian refugees: they are only a beginning, not an end. Their function is to hang around and be constantly useful as a goad. The ultimate aim is not such humane small potatoes as repatriating refugees.
AkSaber
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May 22, 2009, 12:32:07 am »
Wow, there's only one no vote, and it's a Republican.
I hope that the high oil prices have made people look into nuclear power and break their preconceived notions about it.
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May 22, 2009, 12:57:27 am »
Yes (R) - I LOVE nuclear power.
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Reply #14 on:
May 22, 2009, 01:49:17 am »
Of course we need to support more nuclear energy and allow other countries to access the technology too. With safeguards of course.
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Frodo
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May 22, 2009, 07:44:35 am »
Quote from: dead0man on May 22, 2009, 12:16:07 am
This is great. Last time we did this a few on the left were still anti-nuke power (if I remember correctly). Either ignorance has been fought and defeated or the ignorant are afraid to post in this thread (or I'm remembering wrong).
If only this same level of support was apparent among Congressional Democrats....
When last I heard, they had successfully fought off attempts by Republicans (and a few sympathetic Democrats) to include nuclear energy in the climage change bill currently crawling its way through the House.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 22, 2009, 02:26:37 pm »
Quote from: fezzyfestoon on May 21, 2009, 01:12:52 pm
Absolutely. It should have been done decades ago.
This.
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Daniel Z
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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Reply #17 on:
May 22, 2009, 06:40:06 pm »
If we can pay for it. Environmentalist get a bad rap for holding back nuclear power (there are many environmentalist who support nuclear power). The relative availability of coal in the US makes it more economically viable than nuclear power, but of course with high environmental cost. There certainly are big benefits to using nuclear power, but the OMG no nukes crowd is not the only thing preventing the expansion of nuclear power.
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dead0man
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May 22, 2009, 11:38:39 pm »
Yeah, they are very expensive to build...but that's not why we don't have a bunch of new ones and others that are being built. It's because the greens used excellent fearmongering for the last 3 decades. Ignorance can be a very dangerous thing....especially when it can't be questioned because "OMG you must hate the environments!"
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Quote from: Martha Gellhorn for The Atlantic 1961
The unique misfortune of the Palestinian refugees is that they are a weapon in what seems to be a permanent war...today, in the Middle East, you get a repeated sinking sensation about the Palestinian refugees: they are only a beginning, not an end. Their function is to hang around and be constantly useful as a goad. The ultimate aim is not such humane small potatoes as repatriating refugees.
Snowguy716
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 23, 2009, 12:44:46 am »
Quote from: dead0man on May 22, 2009, 11:38:39 pm
Yeah, they are very expensive to build...but that's not why we don't have a bunch of new ones and others that are being built. It's because the greens used excellent fearmongering for the last 3 decades. Ignorance can be a very dangerous thing....especially when it can't be questioned because "OMG you must hate the environments!"
OMG you must hate the environments!
In all seriousness, our goal should be to provide the most energy in the most efficient way possible. Nuclear, hydro-electric, wind, solar, and geothermal are all good, environmentally friendly ways to provide electricity.
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Ernest
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 23, 2009, 08:18:25 pm »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on May 23, 2009, 12:44:46 am
In all seriousness, our goal should be to provide the most energy in the most efficient way possible. Nuclear,
hydro-electric,
wind, solar, and geothermal are all good, environmentally friendly ways to provide electricity.
Drowning a bunch of land is hardly enviro-friendly. While it makes sense to include hydroelectric generating capacity if you are going to build a dam, building a dam just to get electric power makes zero sense.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 23, 2009, 08:39:53 pm »
I don't see any reason not too.
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MasterJedi
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 23, 2009, 10:36:28 pm »
Damn straight it needs to be done. Should have been done from the beginning.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 24, 2009, 01:09:36 am »
Quote from: Ernest on May 23, 2009, 08:18:25 pm
Quote from: Snowguy716 on May 23, 2009, 12:44:46 am
In all seriousness, our goal should be to provide the most energy in the most efficient way possible. Nuclear,
hydro-electric,
wind, solar, and geothermal are all good, environmentally friendly ways to provide electricity.
Drowning a bunch of land is hardly enviro-friendly. While it makes sense to include hydroelectric generating capacity if you are going to build a dam, building a dam just to get electric power makes zero sense.
I agree that hydroelectric plants should be built only when the dam is serving another purpose such as flood control or for water supplies, but in many situations the damage it does to the environment is minimal compared to building a coal power plant and then removing mountain tops to get the coal out.
We can't have this idealist "we won't change unless it's going to be perfect" attitude. You take the good with the bad... but ultimately the one that is efficient and environmentally friendly.
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Re: Expanding Nuclear Energy
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May 24, 2009, 09:33:04 pm »
No.
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