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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2009, 08:34:21 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes
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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2009, 08:36:52 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2009, 08:39:15 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.
Maybe I will, once I figure out how to do that. Wink
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2009, 08:40:30 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.

Unfortunately, once Dan or you win the Senate seat, suddenly the extra seat is vacant.

Some regions have a universal system where all citizens vote. What I tried to do in the Mideast, first during the Constitutional Convention and recently through the referendum amendment, was allow an Assembly to represent the people on a day-to-day basis, while always leaving the option for a universal vote over controversial legislation.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2009, 08:57:01 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.

Unfortunately, once Dan or you win the Senate seat, suddenly the extra seat is vacant.

Some regions have a universal system where all citizens vote. What I tried to do in the Mideast, first during the Constitutional Convention and recently through the referendum amendment, was allow an Assembly to represent the people on a day-to-day basis, while always leaving the option for a universal vote over controversial legislation.

Well, the seat will immediately be filled by a willing citizen at the discretion of the governor. Of course, it is important to get the people involved, but there needs to be some incentive to hold a position. If someone can just waltz in and get a position, it defeats the purpose of an election sim. It makes it a gov't sim.
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« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2009, 09:01:38 pm »
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I don't like the way we currently elected people, it is a good way if we have more then one office to fill, but head to head matches it's kinda useless. Also, I believe making all senate races at-large will be better.

Disagree. All senate races should be regional, just as in real life.
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« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2009, 09:02:35 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.
Maybe I will, once I figure out how to do that. Wink

Just write up what you want to see changed. Then, send it to me by PM. That's all, really.
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« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2009, 09:06:30 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.

Unfortunately, once Dan or you win the Senate seat, suddenly the extra seat is vacant.

Some regions have a universal system where all citizens vote. What I tried to do in the Mideast, first during the Constitutional Convention and recently through the referendum amendment, was allow an Assembly to represent the people on a day-to-day basis, while always leaving the option for a universal vote over controversial legislation.

Well, the seat will immediately be filled by a willing citizen at the discretion of the governor. Of course, it is important to get the people involved, but there needs to be some incentive to hold a position. If someone can just waltz in and get a position, it defeats the purpose of an election sim. It makes it a gov't sim.

This.

By the way, I absolutely disagree with reducing the regions to three.
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« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2009, 09:13:38 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.

Unfortunately, once Dan or you win the Senate seat, suddenly the extra seat is vacant.

Some regions have a universal system where all citizens vote. What I tried to do in the Mideast, first during the Constitutional Convention and recently through the referendum amendment, was allow an Assembly to represent the people on a day-to-day basis, while always leaving the option for a universal vote over controversial legislation.

Well, the seat will immediately be filled by a willing citizen at the discretion of the governor. Of course, it is important to get the people involved, but there needs to be some incentive to hold a position. If someone can just waltz in and get a position, it defeats the purpose of an election sim. It makes it a gov't sim.

This.

By the way, I absolutely disagree with reducing the regions to three.

Why? Most of the regions aren't even active, so what is the point of having five? Why not try having three and see if that can get the regions active again. Also, if we had all Senate races by region it wouldn't be very fun at all.
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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2009, 10:10:23 pm »
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I would love to reduce the Regions to three.
I would actually support expanding by a few. I also think there should be more assemblymen.

The problem is most Regions aren't active like the Mideast is. So you have pointless office olders that aren't really active and regions that are dead.

If we were to cut down, I feel that we need more members in the Assembly, so the people can be better represented.

Perhaps you should enter your name into consideration for the Assembly once Dan or I gets elected to the Senate. I wouldn't mind making the regions smaller, but the region that will be first to the chopping block would be the Mideast, due to its geographic location.
I was planning on doing  that.
It should be more open for people who WANT to participate. I want to participate and get involved in this game. More seats would give some people a better chance. Raising the number of assembleymen= More votes

If you feel strongly about this, maybe you could write up an amendment to the constitution. I'd be happy to submit it for you.

Unfortunately, once Dan or you win the Senate seat, suddenly the extra seat is vacant.

Some regions have a universal system where all citizens vote. What I tried to do in the Mideast, first during the Constitutional Convention and recently through the referendum amendment, was allow an Assembly to represent the people on a day-to-day basis, while always leaving the option for a universal vote over controversial legislation.

Well, the seat will immediately be filled by a willing citizen at the discretion of the governor. Of course, it is important to get the people involved, but there needs to be some incentive to hold a position. If someone can just waltz in and get a position, it defeats the purpose of an election sim. It makes it a gov't sim.

This.

By the way, I absolutely disagree with reducing the regions to three.

Why? Most of the regions aren't even active, so what is the point of having five? Why not try having three and see if that can get the regions active again. Also, if we had all Senate races by region it wouldn't be very fun at all.

Well, the Midwest has been unusually active this past week, but yes, there usually isn't much activity. Perhaps if we combined the Pacific and Midwestern Regions, Left the Mideast its own region, then made the South, Northeast, Maryland, DC, and Virginia one region, I could see there being far more activity.

Also, why is the Mideast so much more active?
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2009, 10:16:22 pm »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.
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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2009, 10:29:52 pm »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.

But I'm wondering if it's coincidence, or if there is an underlying reason for this.
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« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2009, 10:33:36 pm »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.

But I'm wondering if it's coincidence, or if there is an underlying reason for this.

I believe it is because we have an Assembly that keeps people active on the regional level, but that is just me.
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« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2009, 10:42:55 pm »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.

But I'm wondering if it's coincidence, or if there is an underlying reason for this.

It wasn't always so.
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2009, 12:21:57 am »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.

But I'm wondering if it's coincidence, or if there is an underlying reason for this.

I believe it is because we have an Assembly that keeps people active on the regional level, but that is just me.

     I tend to agree. An assembly where people are elected would be a good thing activity-wise, as the people who get the job would tend to be ones who actually had an interest in being regionally active.

     At least, that's how I explain the difference in activity between the Mideast & the Pacific.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2009, 06:43:06 am »
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Perhaps the issue of population could be addressed through a little advertising.  Really, a game of this scope and breadth that has lasted this long should have far greater than 100 or so participants.  I'm sure there are tons of people out there who would love to get involved, if they knew about it.  Facebook, MySpace, Twitter?  I'm not as internet-savvy as some of you younger guys.  But imagine what life would be like here if we had something like 300 or 400 registered voters.  This could be possible, if some really active measures were taken to get the word out.
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2009, 11:27:48 am »
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Perhaps the issue of population could be addressed through a little advertising.  Really, a game of this scope and breadth that has lasted this long should have far greater than 100 or so participants.  I'm sure there are tons of people out there who would love to get involved, if they knew about it.  Facebook, MySpace, Twitter?  I'm not as internet-savvy as some of you younger guys.  But imagine what life would be like here if we had something like 300 or 400 registered voters.  This could be possible, if some really active measures were taken to get the word out.

Or even just make sure people on the site know what this is and want to get involved. I was a member on Atlas for a few months before I ventured forth into the mysterious Atlasia. I had no idea what it was when I joined.
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2009, 11:29:48 am »
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Perhaps the issue of population could be addressed through a little advertising.  Really, a game of this scope and breadth that has lasted this long should have far greater than 100 or so participants.  I'm sure there are tons of people out there who would love to get involved, if they knew about it.  Facebook, MySpace, Twitter?  I'm not as internet-savvy as some of you younger guys.  But imagine what life would be like here if we had something like 300 or 400 registered voters.  This could be possible, if some really active measures were taken to get the word out.

Or even just make sure people on the site know what this is and want to get involved. I was a member on Atlas for a few months before I ventured forth into the mysterious Atlasia. I had no idea what it was when I joined.

     It could be an interesting idea. A huge drive to get people involved in Atlasia.
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2009, 11:35:04 am »
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Because the people who live in the Mideast are more active on in Atlasia.

But I'm wondering if it's coincidence, or if there is an underlying reason for this.

It wasn't always so.

The Mideast used to be the least active region, in fact.  The Midwest had some of the most interesting elections.  The Northeast was the one-party state, and was horribly overcrowded.  The Pacific had an entrenched incumbent.  And the Southeast... was the Southeast Tongue
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« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2009, 11:37:27 am »
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It could draw new members, as well as lead some older ones to return. I say it would be best done right after the Convention. Advertise a new Constitution, new game style, etc.
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« Reply #45 on: May 27, 2009, 11:43:44 am »
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I agree, that is why we need to speed things up in the Convention.
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« Reply #46 on: May 27, 2009, 07:51:19 pm »
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I was just reading over the constitutions of the states and realized that none, save the Mideast's, had an elected legislative body (somebody else may have pointed this out earlier). If every region had an elected legislator, the elections would be far more meaningful, and there would be more activity in the regions.
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« Reply #47 on: May 27, 2009, 08:31:52 pm »
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I was just reading over the constitutions of the states and realized that none, save the Mideast's, had an elected legislative body (somebody else may have pointed this out earlier). If every region had an elected legislator, the elections would be far more meaningful, and there would be more activity in the regions.

Why aren't propositions enough?  If it weren't for propositions, you wouldn't've been able to jump right into Midwestern politics and introduce a bill.
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« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2009, 08:34:35 pm »
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I was just reading over the constitutions of the states and realized that none, save the Mideast's, had an elected legislative body (somebody else may have pointed this out earlier). If every region had an elected legislator, the elections would be far more meaningful, and there would be more activity in the regions.

Why aren't propositions enough?  If it weren't for propositions, you wouldn't've been able to jump right into Midwestern politics and introduce a bill.

I realize that. Here's my reasoning. The Mideast is currently the most active region, they have an elected legislature, therefore, an elected legislature increases activity.
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« Reply #49 on: May 27, 2009, 08:36:15 pm »
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I was just reading over the constitutions of the states and realized that none, save the Mideast's, had an elected legislative body (somebody else may have pointed this out earlier). If every region had an elected legislator, the elections would be far more meaningful, and there would be more activity in the regions.

Why aren't propositions enough?  If it weren't for propositions, you wouldn't've been able to jump right into Midwestern politics and introduce a bill.

I realize that. Here's my reasoning. The Mideast is currently the most active region, they have an elected legislature, therefore, an elected legislature increases activity.

Does every region have enough active people to hold down a legislative body?
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