Capital Punishment Abolition Amendment to the Constitution (Passed)

[afleitch]

Abstain

I cant stand capital punishment, I think it's barbaric but I don't know if outlawing it should be imposed federally.

EDIT: To hell with it, send it the people.

AYE

[Purple State]

While I do believe amendments should be sent to the people, I don't believe the 4 regions that have outlawed capital punishment should be able to force the other to outlaw it as well.

Abstain

[HappyWarrior]

AYE

[Smid]

Aye.

[Franzl]

only Bacon King still needs to vote.

[Bacon King]

aye

[MasterJedi]

This amendment has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.

[Purple State]

This amendment has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.

Is this because DWTL is gone and so our numbers are only equal to nine, rather than ten?

[Franzl]

This amendment has enough votes to pass. Senators now have 24 hours to change their votes.

Is this because DWTL is gone and so our numbers are only equal to nine, rather than ten?

Yep, 6/9 = 2/3

[RI]

This is a great day for Atlasia.

[Franzl]

This is a great day for Atlasia.

It still needs to be approved by the regions....

[RI]

This is a great day for Atlasia.

It still needs to be approved by the regions....

Yeah, well...it's on its way.

[Associate Justice PiT]

      The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

[RI]

     The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

It still has to be approved by the people. Even then, that is the way that the democratic process works, for better or for worse.

[Franzl]

      The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

Ummm....that's a pretty weak argument. You wouldn't argue that a federal law against murder is imposing the morality of the majority on the minority, would you?

[Purple State]

I don't approve of the amendment, but that it goes next to the people lessens my concern.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

It still has to be approved by the people. Even then, that is the way that the democratic process works, for better or for worse.

     I know, though I dislike four regions deciding the policy of a fifth region.

      The morality of the majority is forced on the minority.

Ummm....that's a pretty weak argument. You wouldn't argue that a federal law against murder is imposing the morality of the majority on the minority, would you?

     I actually was just voicing my displeasure with this rather than putting forth an argument, though in reference to your example, I would say that all of the regions are fine with outlawing murder, so that would be a non-issue.

[Franzl]

I actually was just voicing my displeasure with this rather than putting forth an argument, though in reference to your example, I would say that all of the regions are fine with outlawing murder, so that would be a non-issue.

The whole principle that the majority is forcing their morality on the minority is flawed, in my opinion.

Why is it different if the federal government forces it on the regions than if the regions force it on townships?

Somewhat is legislating morality in any case....and I'm sure you can find lots of people in regions in which capital punishment is outlawed that support capital punishment.

Is that not forcing morality on them?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I actually was just voicing my displeasure with this rather than putting forth an argument, though in reference to your example, I would say that all of the regions are fine with outlawing murder, so that would be a non-issue.

The whole principle that the majority is forcing their morality on the minority is flawed, in my opinion.

Why is it different if the federal government forces it on the regions than if the regions force it on townships?

Somewhat is legislating morality in any case....and I'm sure you can find lots of people in regions in which capital punishment is outlawed that support capital punishment.

Is that not forcing morality on them?

     While you make a good point, I should throw out there that in Atlasia the regions are the lowest level of government for all intents & purposes, unless we wished to appoint each voter mayor of a particular plot of land to decide whether or not they will have the death penalty legal there.

     I actually agree that it is not a great argument, supposing that one dislikes anarchy as a form of government. A necessary part of any organized government is that some people are unhappy with how things are run.

[MasterJedi]

With 6 Ayes, 2 Nays and 1 Abstentions this amendment has passed. It is hereby presented to the regions for their approval.