cheney vs. edwards

[WalterMitty]

your thoughts.

i think cheney does better than expected.  in the end, i dont think the debate will matter much.

i like cheney (a lot).  and i hope he shows no mercy on mr. populist.

[J. J.]

"When he walked on the stage, it was the first time I met him," President of the US Senate.

Edwards is the Democratic Quayle.

[AuH2O]

Wow, Cheney is killing him. Edwards looks like Bush- repeating himself over and over, not answering the question, just clueless compared to Cheney.

[A18]

your thoughts.

i think cheney does better than expected.  in the end, i dont think the debate will matter much.

i like cheney (a lot).  and i hope he shows no mercy on mr. populist.

With 20 minutes to go in this "debate" I would say that Edwards is kicking Cheneys' butt.

That's interesting, because you're also the only one who would say that

[Inmate Trump]

First let me get this out of the way:  I don't like Cheney; I never have liked him.

I've always liked Edwards, ever since he started running in the Dem presidential primary.

In this debate, Cheney appears to be winning.  Edwards just isn't...quite...there.  It's almost as if the roles have been reversed when compared to the last big debate, between Bush and Kerry, in which Bush lost and Kerry won, but neither by wide margins.  That's how this debate seems to be, with Cheney winning and Edwards losing, but neither by huge margins.

To me, it's as if Edwards just doesn't know how this debate thing works.  He isn't getting it.  Cheney, of course, has much more experience with this type of thing, and that shows.  Tonight isn't a good night for Edwards, and perhaps Kerry as well--and that's coming from someone who looks highly on John Edwards, and down on Dick Cheney.

The big question for discussion is will either candidates performance help their #1 guy now in the polls, and, later, on election day?

[Giant Saguaro]

Okay, I'm surprised with how well Cheney is sailing through or has sailed through the economic part. Edwards is clearly trying to defer to Kerry with his numerous references to Thursday and with his two or three references to Kerry's Viet Nam service.

I think John Edwards will have a formidable time trying to depict Bush as a flip-flopper or as indecisive.

[Pollwatch99]

Cheney; IRAQI casualities, train IRAQI forces not more American troops, Never met the Senator in the Senate, held his own on economics.

Mr Solid vs Mr Not quick ready yet 

[WalterMitty]

cheney did an excellent job. 

im sure the npr/cnn/pbs crowd is currently drooling over john edwards, but i think the american people saw who is more prepared to step into the presidency.

[WalterMitty]

and another thing, i wish there would have been some discussion on trade.  john edwards and his backwards position on trade would turn the clock back 100 years.

[zachman]

I was pleased with both of them. Edwards was effective  on the Halliburton talk and Cheney did well with his comment on Edward's senate experience. On most issues it was a draw, although it is clear the media is playing it as a victory for Cheney. Better now than Friday's debate.

[WalterMitty]

what is so evil about halliburton?  the fact of the matter is, most people dont give a rat's behind about halliburton.  cheney should not be ashamed for actually having a job in the private sector, instead of living off the tax payers (and rich wives) like a certain person from massachusetts has done.

in 2001 and 02 when the democrats tried their best to connect bush/cheney with ken lay and enron, it failed.  i think we all remember  what the outcome of the midterm elections were.

this 'halliburton is evil' nonsense is going to fail also.

[The Vorlon]

ABC Snap poll:

Cheney 43
Edwards 35

[swampdude]

I wonder when (and if) the media is going to question Mr. Edward's figures about half of Blacks and Hispanics have dropped out of school.  True figures are:  12% Blacks, 26% Hispanics.    Edwards looked like a lightweight trial lawyer preaching to 12 folks not smart enough to get out of jury duty.........

[ATFFL]

ABC Snap poll:

Cheney 43
Edwards 35

From CBS:

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Wow!  What a sample size!

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

The more I see from the way people responded to this debate, the more I am convinced it was an Edwards victory. 

Not an obvious victory like last week's debate, or an "oblideration" like Andrew Sullivan is claiming, but a solid win nonetheless that will give the Democrats great momentum going into Friday, which in the end will be much more important.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Vorlon forgot this part when he posted the ABC flash poll numbers:

  Vote preference among debate viewers
                  Before the debate   After the debate
Bush/Cheney         51%                50%     
Kerry/Edwards       48%                49%
Nader/Camejo        <1%                0%

[opebo]

Edwards won, big time.

[shankbear]

and what exactly had you taken before, during and after watching the debate???  LIBS cratered tonight.  Commies are in retreat too.

[cwelsch]

I really wouldn't trust anything CBS touches at this point outside a Christmas special.  The fact that people only just now realize Rather might be biased shows how much he gets away with over there.

Anyway, Cheney had stronger lines, more applause lines, he hits hard without being super angry.  I like Cheney, he lays it all out for you, the facts, the analysis, the conclusion.  Very reasonable and very intelligent guy.  That's what even his opponents said of him in the House.  While being a Representative, many people thought Cheney was a moderate because he was known to be respectful to everybody and polite all around - though obviously he was near Ron Paul level in some of his views.

[Citizen James]

   Both seemed more focused on reiterating their campaign talking points than dynamicly debating the issues, both struck me as mediocre - neithier one did great, but at least they remembered their lines.

On to Friday and see if Bush can meet his lowered expectations for the second debate.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

"When he walked on the stage, it was the first time I met him," President of the US Senate.

Edwards is the Democratic Quayle.

A picture is worth at least 1000 words here.

[Friar]

No clear winner. Both had their highs and their lows.

The debate won't have any impact.

Cheney needed to destroy Edwards. He didn't.

Edwards needed to keep up with Cheney. He did.

What is the most interesting about the debate is it just showed what a complete moron Bush is. Cheney was times better than Bush. On Friday when people compare Bush to Cheney, they will realize it.

The democratic ticket keeps scoring points.

Roles are reversed from what they used to be 10 days ago. The Big Mo is with Kerry/Edwards thus Bush needs a clear victory on Friday. Anything less than a clear and convincing victory will move the election into 'like father like son - one term and you're done' teritory.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

"When he walked on the stage, it was the first time I met him," President of the US Senate.

Edwards is the Democratic Quayle.

A picture is worth at least 1000 words here.

Why don't you post Kerry and Edwards voting attendance record while you are at it?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

"When he walked on the stage, it was the first time I met him," President of the US Senate.

Edwards is the Democratic Quayle.

A picture is worth at least 1000 words here.

Why don't you post Kerry and Edwards voting attendance record while you are at it?

Who cares? They were busy running for President / VP.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Why don't you post Kerry and Edwards voting attendance record while you are at it?

Who cares? They were busy running for President / VP.

Well, wasn't their Senate attendance record Cheney's point?