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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 03:20:01 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...

----- we want the "right" to murder babies
-------- we want people to have the right to their gloryholes and kiddie porn and nambla bathhouses.

--- we want to appease the north Koreas and Iranians and Al Quaeda

---------we want pc to be the law of the land and the thought police.  let's not offend the poor blacks because of what happen to them three hundred years ago.

_ we want to feel nice and guilty about the poor noble red man and what those devil white Christians did to them

)---- we want to tax the hard working producing classes whose wealth creates jobs and expands the economy while rewarding the welfare queens and baby daddies (could be ANY color -- not just the blacks -- I am NOT the racist here!!!!!!!) for not working, sitting on there porches, drinking and smoking crack pipes.

Yes that's what the left stands for.  Just look at the news coverage recently.  People calling a man who butchers tiny babies a martyr but spitting on a dead American soldier fighting Al Qeada for freedom and calling our brave boys war crminals.

Look, I realize Sen coburn is wrong on the smoking thing.  Maybe even he is giving in to the pc police but I sure hope not.  A ban on smoking never works, Just look at the epic fail in the comunities and states that have tryed it -- many people loosing their businesses and many restraunts closing.  I will oppose Coburn on this.

But he is RIGHT about gays...RIGHT about taxes...RIGHT about guns..>RIGHT about defenseless babies and RIGHT about fighting terror.

I want him to be right about smoking which is a civil liberty but if he persists in being wrong about that one thing I will still support him.

And to say Nixon was the liberal and Humphrey was the conservative is just pure LOLOLOL  (And you say I am the one who doesnt know politics and history!!! HAHAHAHA)

You truly have no clue wtf you are talking about and make up sh*t along the way, btw gays = the biggest threat to America??  You really are one sad pathetic sack of crap.
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 03:28:27 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...

----- we want the "right" to murder babies
-------- we want people to have the right to their gloryholes and kiddie porn and nambla bathhouses.

--- we want to appease the north Koreas and Iranians and Al Quaeda

---------we want pc to be the law of the land and the thought police.  let's not offend the poor blacks because of what happen to them three hundred years ago.

_ we want to feel nice and guilty about the poor noble red man and what those devil white Christians did to them

)---- we want to tax the hard working producing classes whose wealth creates jobs and expands the economy while rewarding the welfare queens and baby daddies (could be ANY color -- not just the blacks -- I am NOT the racist here!!!!!!!) for not working, sitting on there porches, drinking and smoking crack pipes.

Yes that's what the left stands for.  Just look at the news coverage recently.  People calling a man who butchers tiny babies a martyr but spitting on a dead American soldier fighting Al Qeada for freedom and calling our brave boys war crminals.

Look, I realize Sen coburn is wrong on the smoking thing.  Maybe even he is giving in to the pc police but I sure hope not.  A ban on smoking never works, Just look at the epic fail in the comunities and states that have tryed it -- many people loosing their businesses and many restraunts closing.  I will oppose Coburn on this.

But he is RIGHT about gays...RIGHT about taxes...RIGHT about guns..>RIGHT about defenseless babies and RIGHT about fighting terror.

I want him to be right about smoking which is a civil liberty but if he persists in being wrong about that one thing I will still support him.

And to say Nixon was the liberal and Humphrey was the conservative is just pure LOLOLOL  (And you say I am the one who doesnt know politics and history!!! HAHAHAHA)

You truly have no clue wtf you are talking about and make up sh*t along the way, btw gays = the biggest threat to America??  You really are one sad pathetic sack of crap.

That's narrow mindedness for you.  There's just no reasoning with those sorts of people, as they seem to be incapable of the slightest shred of rational thought.  God help us all should his sort get into power.
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2009, 03:43:53 PM »
« Edited: June 08, 2009, 03:45:27 PM by ShadowOfTheWave »

htmldon your Anti-Conservatism makes me  Laugh

Comrade ,without Conservatism America would be socialist or even worse communist.

I like my moderates ,but I hate Anti-Reagan ,Anti-Goldy Moderates.


Moderate Dems would get my vote before you ever do Smiley

Goldwater was an excellent candidate who was just trying to protect American * soverenty at a time when the Soviets were enslaving Europe. He should have won.

Reagan was an idiot similiar to Palin who basically just used fear mongering on white Christian Americans to hate everyone different than them, blame all of America's problems on the Liberals, and presented an optimist view of a America as some magical place where we do everything right and everyone else is wrong.

* I may have spelled this word wrong but I'm not looking it up.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2009, 04:04:52 PM »


Nixon was unfortunately forced to give in to those things.

No he wasn't, you waste of brain matter.  Half of that stuff was part of a coordinated strategy by the White House to "out Left the Left".  The idea was that, if the Nixon Administration targeted certain issues where Liberal action was popular, and then offered a proposal more radical than what the Left was asking, then it would force the Liberals to have to take an unpopular stand on the issue, or have no platform with which to attack the White House.

I swear, you don't know sh**t.

To top it off this stupid son of a bitch just said John Ashbrook was his favorite Ohio politician.
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2009, 04:25:24 PM »


Nixon was unfortunately forced to give in to those things.

No he wasn't, you waste of brain matter.  Half of that stuff was part of a coordinated strategy by the White House to "out Left the Left".  The idea was that, if the Nixon Administration targeted certain issues where Liberal action was popular, and then offered a proposal more radical than what the Left was asking, then it would force the Liberals to have to take an unpopular stand on the issue, or have no platform with which to attack the White House.

I swear, you don't know sh**t.

To top it off this stupid son of a bitch just said John Ashbrook was his favorite Ohio politician.

Yeah, and I am the one who does name-calling.  Nice.

And what's wrong with Ashbrook.  I am from Ohio and would probably know better than most.
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2009, 04:31:56 PM »


Nixon was unfortunately forced to give in to those things.

No he wasn't, you waste of brain matter.  Half of that stuff was part of a coordinated strategy by the White House to "out Left the Left".  The idea was that, if the Nixon Administration targeted certain issues where Liberal action was popular, and then offered a proposal more radical than what the Left was asking, then it would force the Liberals to have to take an unpopular stand on the issue, or have no platform with which to attack the White House.

I swear, you don't know sh**t.

To top it off this stupid son of a bitch just said John Ashbrook was his favorite Ohio politician.

Yeah, and I am the one who does name-calling.  Nice.

And what's wrong with Ashbrook.  I am from Ohio and would probably know better than most.
Well he was a nutter...  However, that wasn't my point.

Here you were trying to show that Nixon was staunchly conservative, yet one guy who you have a ton of affection for attempted to Primary Nixon in 1972 because of the very fact Nixon was liberal on some issues.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2009, 04:35:48 PM »


Nixon was unfortunately forced to give in to those things.

No he wasn't, you waste of brain matter.  Half of that stuff was part of a coordinated strategy by the White House to "out Left the Left".  The idea was that, if the Nixon Administration targeted certain issues where Liberal action was popular, and then offered a proposal more radical than what the Left was asking, then it would force the Liberals to have to take an unpopular stand on the issue, or have no platform with which to attack the White House.

I swear, you don't know sh**t.

To top it off this stupid son of a bitch just said John Ashbrook was his favorite Ohio politician.

Yeah, and I am the one who does name-calling.  Nice.

And what's wrong with Ashbrook.  I am from Ohio and would probably know better than most.
Well he was a nutter...  However, that wasn't my point.

Here you were trying to show that Nixon was staunchly conservative, yet one guy who you have a ton of affection for attempted to Primary Nixon in 1972 because of the very fact Nixon was liberal on some issues.

True Ashbrook was more conservative.  The way Tom Coburn is more conservative than George W. Bush.  That doesn't mean I don't love and respect President Bush. And both Nixon and Bush got  slaughtered by the leftist dominated media
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2009, 04:43:06 PM »


Nixon was unfortunately forced to give in to those things.

No he wasn't, you waste of brain matter.  Half of that stuff was part of a coordinated strategy by the White House to "out Left the Left".  The idea was that, if the Nixon Administration targeted certain issues where Liberal action was popular, and then offered a proposal more radical than what the Left was asking, then it would force the Liberals to have to take an unpopular stand on the issue, or have no platform with which to attack the White House.

I swear, you don't know sh**t.

To top it off this stupid son of a bitch just said John Ashbrook was his favorite Ohio politician.

Yeah, and I am the one who does name-calling.  Nice.

And what's wrong with Ashbrook.  I am from Ohio and would probably know better than most.
Well he was a nutter...  However, that wasn't my point.

Here you were trying to show that Nixon was staunchly conservative, yet one guy who you have a ton of affection for attempted to Primary Nixon in 1972 because of the very fact Nixon was liberal on some issues.

True Ashbrook was more conservative.  The way Tom Coburn is more conservative than George W. Bush.  That doesn't mean I don't love and respect President Bush. And both Nixon and Bush got  slaughtered by the leftist dominated media
 

Ahh yes the leftest dominated media, please...  Nixon was much more moderate than Bush (on most issues anyway).  I just found your labeling of Nixon as pretty much a staunch conservative pretty intriguing considering one of your heroes was someone who constantly slammed Nixon for being too liberal.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2009, 05:30:50 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...

----- we want the "right" to murder babies
-------- we want people to have the right to their gloryholes and kiddie porn and nambla bathhouses.

--- we want to appease the north Koreas and Iranians and Al Quaeda

---------we want pc to be the law of the land and the thought police.  let's not offend the poor blacks because of what happen to them three hundred years ago.

_ we want to feel nice and guilty about the poor noble red man and what those devil white Christians did to them

)---- we want to tax the hard working producing classes whose wealth creates jobs and expands the economy while rewarding the welfare queens and baby daddies (could be ANY color -- not just the blacks -- I am NOT the racist here!!!!!!!) for not working, sitting on there porches, drinking and smoking crack pipes.

Yes that's what the left stands for.  Just look at the news coverage recently.  People calling a man who butchers tiny babies a martyr but spitting on a dead American soldier fighting Al Qeada for freedom and calling our brave boys war crminals.

Look, I realize Sen coburn is wrong on the smoking thing.  Maybe even he is giving in to the pc police but I sure hope not.  A ban on smoking never works, Just look at the epic fail in the comunities and states that have tryed it -- many people loosing their businesses and many restraunts closing.  I will oppose Coburn on this.

But he is RIGHT about gays...RIGHT about taxes...RIGHT about guns..>RIGHT about defenseless babies and RIGHT about fighting terror.

I want him to be right about smoking which is a civil liberty but if he persists in being wrong about that one thing I will still support him.

And to say Nixon was the liberal and Humphrey was the conservative is just pure LOLOLOL  (And you say I am the one who doesnt know politics and history!!! HAHAHAHA)

Is there a single group out there that has any legitimate claim to any rights other than white men? It seems to me that you are incapable of conceding that, for certain people, life has given them a harder hand than you. Apologize to blacks for what happened 300 years ago! in 1709? Try 50 years ago, when most of them couldn't vote.

I swear, sometimes I feel like the only white male who realizes that I got lucky due to random chance, and that, even at the rate of progress we are making as a society, I will still be priviliged till the day I die. If I hear one more white male whine about "reverse racism" or how people should "get over it" or somehow feel qualified to discuss the inner workings of a woman's body than said woman, Im gonna hurl.   

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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2009, 05:55:25 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...


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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2009, 04:03:22 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...

----- we want the "right" to murder babies
-------- we want people to have the right to their gloryholes and kiddie porn and nambla bathhouses.

--- we want to appease the north Koreas and Iranians and Al Quaeda

---------we want pc to be the law of the land and the thought police.  let's not offend the poor blacks because of what happen to them three hundred years ago.

_ we want to feel nice and guilty about the poor noble red man and what those devil white Christians did to them

)---- we want to tax the hard working producing classes whose wealth creates jobs and expands the economy while rewarding the welfare queens and baby daddies (could be ANY color -- not just the blacks -- I am NOT the racist here!!!!!!!) for not working, sitting on there porches, drinking and smoking crack pipes.

Yes that's what the left stands for.  Just look at the news coverage recently.  People calling a man who butchers tiny babies a martyr but spitting on a dead American soldier fighting Al Qeada for freedom and calling our brave boys war crminals.

Look, I realize Sen coburn is wrong on the smoking thing.  Maybe even he is giving in to the pc police but I sure hope not.  A ban on smoking never works, Just look at the epic fail in the comunities and states that have tryed it -- many people loosing their businesses and many restraunts closing.  I will oppose Coburn on this.

But he is RIGHT about gays...RIGHT about taxes...RIGHT about guns..>RIGHT about defenseless babies and RIGHT about fighting terror.

I want him to be right about smoking which is a civil liberty but if he persists in being wrong about that one thing I will still support him.

And to say Nixon was the liberal and Humphrey was the conservative is just pure LOLOLOL  (And you say I am the one who doesnt know politics and history!!! HAHAHAHA)

Is there a single group out there that has any legitimate claim to any rights other than white men? It seems to me that you are incapable of conceding that, for certain people, life has given them a harder hand than you. Apologize to blacks for what happened 300 years ago! in 1709? Try 50 years ago, when most of them couldn't vote.

I swear, sometimes I feel like the only white male who realizes that I got lucky due to random chance, and that, even at the rate of progress we are making as a society, I will still be priviliged till the day I die. If I hear one more white male whine about "reverse racism" or how people should "get over it" or somehow feel qualified to discuss the inner workings of a woman's body than said woman, Im gonna hurl.   



Hand wringing...

I suggest you listen to The Eagles' song "Get Over It".
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2009, 04:28:03 PM »

A lot of nastiness in this thread but all it adds up to is...

----- we want the "right" to murder babies
-------- we want people to have the right to their gloryholes and kiddie porn and nambla bathhouses.

--- we want to appease the north Koreas and Iranians and Al Quaeda

---------we want pc to be the law of the land and the thought police.  let's not offend the poor blacks because of what happen to them three hundred years ago.

_ we want to feel nice and guilty about the poor noble red man and what those devil white Christians did to them

)---- we want to tax the hard working producing classes whose wealth creates jobs and expands the economy while rewarding the welfare queens and baby daddies (could be ANY color -- not just the blacks -- I am NOT the racist here!!!!!!!) for not working, sitting on there porches, drinking and smoking crack pipes.

Yes that's what the left stands for.  Just look at the news coverage recently.  People calling a man who butchers tiny babies a martyr but spitting on a dead American soldier fighting Al Qeada for freedom and calling our brave boys war crminals.

Look, I realize Sen coburn is wrong on the smoking thing.  Maybe even he is giving in to the pc police but I sure hope not.  A ban on smoking never works, Just look at the epic fail in the comunities and states that have tryed it -- many people loosing their businesses and many restraunts closing.  I will oppose Coburn on this.

But he is RIGHT about gays...RIGHT about taxes...RIGHT about guns..>RIGHT about defenseless babies and RIGHT about fighting terror.

I want him to be right about smoking which is a civil liberty but if he persists in being wrong about that one thing I will still support him.

And to say Nixon was the liberal and Humphrey was the conservative is just pure LOLOLOL  (And you say I am the one who doesnt know politics and history!!! HAHAHAHA)

Is there a single group out there that has any legitimate claim to any rights other than white men? It seems to me that you are incapable of conceding that, for certain people, life has given them a harder hand than you. Apologize to blacks for what happened 300 years ago! in 1709? Try 50 years ago, when most of them couldn't vote.

I swear, sometimes I feel like the only white male who realizes that I got lucky due to random chance, and that, even at the rate of progress we are making as a society, I will still be priviliged till the day I die. If I hear one more white male whine about "reverse racism" or how people should "get over it" or somehow feel qualified to discuss the inner workings of a woman's body than said woman, Im gonna hurl.   



What are these so called "priviliges you speak of? I live in fairly white area, but we're still about 5%-10% latino and about 5% asian, and they seem to do just as well as I, a white male, does. My father's company has blacks in 2nd and 3rd levels of management, and there are many prominent black and Hispanic law makers in/from my state (Ken Salazar is a good example).
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