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« Reply #150 on: June 19, 2009, 03:25:09 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.
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« Reply #151 on: June 19, 2009, 03:51:49 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

You're surprised? We have a serious infestation on our hands. Sad
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« Reply #152 on: June 19, 2009, 04:06:58 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

You're surprised? We have a serious infestation on our hands. Sad

I'm aware of the large number of newbies we've had and I've no idea how legitimate or otherwise many of them are. This case, however, is the most remarkable I've seen.

 I know that you've put forward an amendment to lift the posting requirements (which I favour), but I'm interested to know whether or not anyone is actually looking into these voters to ensure their legitimacy.
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« Reply #153 on: June 19, 2009, 04:22:03 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

You're surprised? We have a serious infestation on our hands. Sad

I'm aware of the large number of newbies we've had and I've no idea how legitimate or otherwise many of them are. This case, however, is the most remarkable I've seen.

I know that you've put forward an amendment to lift the posting requirements (which I favour), but I'm interested to know whether or not anyone is actually looking into these voters to ensure their legitimacy.

I've been wondering the same thing for days now but every time I mention it the mods never seem to say anything about it.
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« Reply #154 on: June 19, 2009, 06:11:22 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.
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« Reply #155 on: June 19, 2009, 06:15:56 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

It's not active campaigning...I don't see how his commentary would make it invalid.

But that's for the SOFA to decide.
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« Reply #156 on: June 19, 2009, 06:18:01 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

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Commentary, as I've understood, is never used as justification for getting upset. Loitering is, perhaps, but italian-boy's vote doesn't fit the definition of "strong attempts to compel others to vote or not vote for one or multiple candidates" which would render it invalid. "Explanations of one's vote or simple expressions" are not prohibited, so his vote is valid, as I see it.
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« Reply #157 on: June 19, 2009, 06:19:55 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

It's not active campaigning...I don't see how his commentary would make it invalid.

But that's for the SOFA to decide.

It's basically saying don't vote for Phil because of his party. It's demeaning his party.
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« Reply #158 on: June 19, 2009, 06:23:07 AM »

OMG, it's 28-27 now, so even, so exciting.

Italian boy's vote seems to be within the boundries of what is allowed, of course his vote should count. (but so should Gustaf's)  
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« Reply #159 on: June 19, 2009, 06:24:24 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

It's not active campaigning...I don't see how his commentary would make it invalid.

But that's for the SOFA to decide.

It's basically saying don't vote for Phil because of his party. It's demeaning his party.

I think it was clearly tongue-in-cheek, but as always, we'll see what Earl says Tongue
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« Reply #160 on: June 19, 2009, 07:11:26 AM »

Italian boy's vote should be rendered invalid, there is commentary on it.

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Commentary, as I've understood, is never used as justification for getting upset. Loitering is, perhaps, but italian-boy's vote doesn't fit the definition of "strong attempts to compel others to vote or not vote for one or multiple candidates" which would render it invalid. "Explanations of one's vote or simple expressions" are not prohibited, so his vote is valid, as I see it.

Indeed. I would suggest that the standing authority on campaigning in the voting booth, True Democrat v DoFA would also support a finding of validity. Per Mr Justice Emsworth: "an act does not constitute campaigning, unless it is clearly and obviously designed to persuade other voters". italian boy's vote seems to me quite clearly to be an explanation of his vote, not an effort at persuasion to others.


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« Reply #161 on: June 19, 2009, 08:06:01 AM »

There is some possibility that the Midwest Senate could end in a tie.  I don't know what the law is concerning tied elections, but it occurs to me that Gustaf's vote could be used as a sort of tiebreaker.  That is, if his vote breaks a tie, count it; if it creates a tie, discount it.
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« Reply #162 on: June 19, 2009, 08:11:40 AM »

There is some possibility that the Midwest Senate could end in a tie.  I don't know what the law is concerning tied elections, but it occurs to me that Gustaf's vote could be used as a sort of tiebreaker.  That is, if his vote breaks a tie, count it; if it creates a tie, discount it.

A tie would lead to a run-off election next week.
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« Reply #163 on: June 19, 2009, 08:30:08 AM »

There is some possibility that the Midwest Senate could end in a tie.  I don't know what the law is concerning tied elections, but it occurs to me that Gustaf's vote could be used as a sort of tiebreaker.  That is, if his vote breaks a tie, count it; if it creates a tie, discount it.

That would make his vote even more controversial and almost guarantee a lawsuit.
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« Reply #164 on: June 19, 2009, 11:18:05 AM »

 hcallega vote doesn't count for the senate race, he is in the Northeast, not the Mideast.
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« Reply #165 on: June 19, 2009, 11:18:30 AM »

hcallega vote doesn't count for the senate race, he is in the Northeast, not the Mideast.

Alright, thanks.
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« Reply #166 on: June 19, 2009, 11:33:59 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

The constitution doesn't mention whether or not you have to re-register once you hit 25 posts, or whether you are allowed to register and then hit 25 posts later, and become a registered voter.
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« Reply #167 on: June 19, 2009, 11:36:45 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

The constitution doesn't mention whether or not you have to re-register once you hit 25 posts, or whether you are allowed to register and then hit 25 posts later, and become a registered voter.

Sadly so.  The Intelligent Voting Amendment will thankfully change that.
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« Reply #168 on: June 19, 2009, 11:55:14 AM »

I hope I'm not just being too nervous about the vote but elecotraljew2's vote still counts toward me since he's in the Midwest even though he said Mideast, correct? Tongue
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« Reply #169 on: June 19, 2009, 11:55:34 AM »

I hope someone in officaldom is looking into this case.
She has a total of 26 posts, almost all of which were on 3 June, the last of that day (and her 25th in total) was her first post in Atlasia, registering herself as a voter. She then doesn't re-appear until today and makes 1 post - her vote.

The constitution doesn't mention whether or not you have to re-register once you hit 25 posts, or whether you are allowed to register and then hit 25 posts later, and become a registered voter.

Mmm. Yeah, I can see how it can be read both ways; though I'd imagine there may be precedents where pre-25 post registration has been allowed, so long as a sufficient number of posts have been accumulated when voting. Not sure though.

At any rate, we now have another very similar case to that cited above. Again, almost all posts on a single day a couple of weeks ago. Again, fewer than 30 posts total.
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« Reply #170 on: June 19, 2009, 11:58:54 AM »

I hope I'm not just being too nervous about the vote but elecotraljew2's vote still counts toward me since he's in the Midwest even though he said Mideast, correct? Tongue

That won't be a problem. What may be a problem is whether he was a registered voter for long enough before the election. That I'm not sure of.
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« Reply #171 on: June 19, 2009, 12:00:39 PM »

I hope I'm not just being too nervous about the vote but elecotraljew2's vote still counts toward me since he's in the Midwest even though he said Mideast, correct? Tongue

That won't be a problem. What may be a problem is whether he was a registered voter for long enough before the election. That I'm not sure of.

Yay! Tongue And I remember he got in on June 11 so he's safe.
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« Reply #172 on: June 19, 2009, 12:25:05 PM »

I hope I'm not just being too nervous about the vote but elecotraljew2's vote still counts toward me since he's in the Midwest even though he said Mideast, correct? Tongue

That won't be a problem. What may be a problem is whether he was a registered voter for long enough before the election. That I'm not sure of.

Yay! Tongue And I remember he got in on June 11 so he's safe.

Actually, having looked into it, I'd suggest his vote is invalid.
I'm now of the opinion that his registration was very probably 11 hours late to make this election.
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« Reply #173 on: June 19, 2009, 12:35:20 PM »

     I don't think italin-boy's vote is valid. He only obtained 14 posts in the eight weeks prior to the booth's opening if I am counting right.

     Also, the voting booth says that you need to register before or on June 11th. electoraljew2 registered on June 11th, according to Earl's official registry, so I believe that he is elgiible to vote.
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« Reply #174 on: June 19, 2009, 02:59:18 PM »

He has 15 posts exactly.
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