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« Reply #300 on: June 21, 2009, 11:15:53 pm »
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I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.
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« Reply #301 on: June 21, 2009, 11:18:05 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?
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« Reply #302 on: June 21, 2009, 11:18:27 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).
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« Reply #303 on: June 21, 2009, 11:18:59 pm »

I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.

The tracker is through Peter. After that Afleitch and Jfern voted meaning plus one to both. If Barnes is invalid it's a tie meaning DC_united gives it to PiT. Unless someone else is invalid too (God I hope not).
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« Reply #304 on: June 21, 2009, 11:19:32 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.
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« Reply #305 on: June 21, 2009, 11:20:04 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

Damn it! Really?

Who is going to win? I probably would have voted for Lief, for the record.
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« Reply #306 on: June 21, 2009, 11:20:19 pm »
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I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.

The tracker is through Peter. After that Afleitch and Jfern voted meaning plus one to both. If Barnes is invalid it's a tie meaning DC_united gives it to PiT. Unless someone else is invalid too (God I hope not).

     Jas suggested earlier that he believed electoraljew2's vote to be invalid, saying that he believed that electoraljew had registered too late.
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« Reply #307 on: June 21, 2009, 11:20:33 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

That's what happens when people put off voting for dramatic effect Wink
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« Reply #308 on: June 21, 2009, 11:22:41 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

That's what happens when people put off voting for dramatic effect Wink

Thats why I voted on Friday as soon as the booth opened.
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« Reply #309 on: June 21, 2009, 11:23:06 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

Damn it! Really?

Who is going to win? I probably would have voted for Lief, for the record.

     I win 42-41 without either Gustaf's vote or Barnes's vote.
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« Reply #310 on: June 21, 2009, 11:23:16 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

That's what happens when people put off voting for dramatic effect Wink

It's certainly a risk Wink  I blame The Sims 3.

Though I never did get an answer about whether a vote for Fritz would've brought about a runoff.
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« Reply #311 on: June 21, 2009, 11:23:37 pm »

I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.

The tracker is through Peter. After that Afleitch and Jfern voted meaning plus one to both. If Barnes is invalid it's a tie meaning DC_united gives it to PiT. Unless someone else is invalid too (God I hope not).

     Jas suggested earlier that he believed electoraljew2's vote to be invalid, saying that he believed that electoraljew had registered too late.

If so (which I believe is wrong since he registered on the 11 and the booth said you had to be registered on or before the 11 and nothing else about a time) then it's a tie. Unfortunate.
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« Reply #312 on: June 21, 2009, 11:26:01 pm »
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I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.

The tracker is through Peter. After that Afleitch and Jfern voted meaning plus one to both. If Barnes is invalid it's a tie meaning DC_united gives it to PiT. Unless someone else is invalid too (God I hope not).

     Jas suggested earlier that he believed electoraljew2's vote to be invalid, saying that he believed that electoraljew had registered too late.

If so (which I believe is wrong since he registered on the 11 and the booth said you had to be registered on or before the 11 and nothing else about a time) then it's a tie. Unfortunate.

     Also, the general election booth was scheduled to open on 11:59 PM, June 18th. Counting back seven days, you can figure that a voter would have had to register by 11:59 PM, June 11th. That would mean that electoraljew's vote is good.
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« Reply #313 on: June 21, 2009, 11:32:48 pm »
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LOL

I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

That's what happens when people put off voting for dramatic effect Wink

It's certainly a risk Wink  I blame The Sims 3.

Though I never did get an answer about whether a vote for Fritz would've brought about a runoff.

A vote for Lief may have!

Oh dear, I'm going to have to make some tough decisions.
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« Reply #314 on: June 21, 2009, 11:33:16 pm »
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Though I never did get an answer about whether a vote for Fritz would've brought about a runoff.

Basically Verin, I needed you to preference me higher than Jedi- as Jas and Lewis both did- plus get two other votes, in order to pull off a win 9-8.  A tie was not possible, as an 8-8 final result would have had the tie broken in Jedi's favor, because of more first preferences.
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« Reply #315 on: June 21, 2009, 11:39:09 pm »
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I totally forgot about voting, then remembered and wanted to put it off for awhile and then totally forgot about it. So, what happened?

Drama(tm).

Both of you were potential voters that never got around to voting, but could have swung the elections. Amusing.

That's what happens when people put off voting for dramatic effect Wink

It's certainly a risk Wink  I blame The Sims 3.

Though I never did get an answer about whether a vote for Fritz would've brought about a runoff.

A vote for Lief may have!

Oh dear, I'm going to have to make some tough decisions.

I will say this, the one job that I never want to hold in Atlasia is SoFA. Smiley
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« Reply #316 on: June 22, 2009, 12:00:48 am »
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What is the final map?  Maybe we can get a county one once the final result is tallied.
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« Reply #317 on: June 22, 2009, 12:04:09 am »
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What is the final map?  Maybe we can get a county one once the final result is tallied.

     I'll gladly make a county map.
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« Reply #318 on: June 22, 2009, 01:26:47 am »
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Something like that, more or less.
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« Reply #319 on: June 22, 2009, 04:19:39 am »
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I don't see a controversial ending here.  The only votes being disputed are Gustaf and Barnes, both votes for PiT- who wins the election by one vote without either of the disputed votes.  Where's the controversy?

I believe without Jfern or Gustaf it ends in a tie after DC is counted for PiT. We need the final certification from Earl though.

The tracker is through Peter. After that Afleitch and Jfern voted meaning plus one to both. If Barnes is invalid it's a tie meaning DC_united gives it to PiT. Unless someone else is invalid too (God I hope not).

     Jas suggested earlier that he believed electoraljew2's vote to be invalid, saying that he believed that electoraljew had registered too late.

If so (which I believe is wrong since he registered on the 11 and the booth said you had to be registered on or before the 11 and nothing else about a time) then it's a tie. Unfortunate.

     Also, the general election booth was scheduled to open on 11:59 PM, June 18th. Counting back seven days, you can figure that a voter would have had to register by 11:59 PM, June 11th. That would mean that electoraljew's vote is good.


I'm awaiting certification before lodging court papers.

FTR, my reasoning is based on the 11th and 24th Amendments.
 
Quote from: 24th Amendment, Section 1
In order to vote or be a candidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter seven days before the earliest possible commencement of the election.


Quote from: 11th Amendment, Clause 1
Regular elections to the Senate and Presidency shall begin between midnight Eastern Standard Time on the second to last Thursday of the month in which they otherwise would have started and 0001 Eastern Standard Time on the first Friday thereafter, and shall conclude exactly 72 hours after beginning.


The "earliest possible commencement of the election" was 00.00 (EST), Thursday, 18 June.
7 days prior to that was obviously 00.00 (EST), Thursday, 11 June.

electoraljew2 did not register until 10.57 (EST), Thursday, 11 June - almost 11 hours late.

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Similarly, the registration of barnes:
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Given this, I'd call on the SoFA not to include these votes in his certification. If he does, persons should be on notice of my intent to bring this matter before the Court.
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« Reply #320 on: June 22, 2009, 04:36:07 am »
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By the by, having looked at it, by virtue of the same 24th Amendment, I believe that jewishconservative's vote in the Midwestern Senate election is invalid.

He changed his registration to the Midwestern region from the Mideast after 00.00 (EST) Thursday, 11th. Therefore, his regional vote can only be taken to apply to the Mideastern election. Not sure if this has any real effect though.
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« Reply #321 on: June 22, 2009, 05:16:14 am »
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By the by, having looked at it, by virtue of the same 24th Amendment, I believe that jewishconservative's vote in the Midwestern Senate election is invalid.

He changed his registration to the Midwestern region from the Mideast after 00.00 (EST) Thursday, 11th. Therefore, his regional vote can only be taken to apply to the Mideastern election. Not sure if this has any real effect though.

Just looked up the law.

I think, if I'm right, that the Midwestern Senate race tied.

The result would now be:
Count 1
MasterJedi6(Gustaf, Sensei, jewishconservative, SoS, Mechaman, Vepres, MasterJedi, dead0man, electoraljew2,)
Fritz4(GMantis, Fritz, BRTD, Aizen)
Jas2(Jas, Lewis)

Count 2
MasterJedi6
Fritz6(+2: Jas, Lewis)
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« Reply #322 on: June 22, 2009, 05:42:27 am »
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Assuming that my numbers are all correct here....the invalidation of electoraljew and Barnes would lead to an exact tie.
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« Reply #323 on: June 22, 2009, 05:42:59 am »
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As much as it pains me, I too think both electoraljew2 and Barnes vote shouldn't count. They didn't register in time, but I do think Gustaf's vote should be counted!
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« Reply #324 on: June 22, 2009, 05:48:23 am »
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So we'll most likely see three courtcases on this... oh my *headdesk*

One wether Barnes and Electoraljew registered on time for their vote to count.

One wether it's okey to register before you get 25 post, as long as you have 25 post seven days before election

and one wether Gustaf's vote should count or not considering the strange things happening in that voting booth.

(and if the court rules in favour of Barnes vote not counting due to him not attaining 25 posts before registring as well as Gustaf's not counting there might be a fourth one, about all those who reposted their vote when their initial ones disappeared.)

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