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GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- winner: Willy BRANDT, over Adenauer !
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Topic: GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- winner: Willy BRANDT, over Adenauer ! (Read 18062 times)
big bad fab
filliatre
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GERMAN CHANCELLORS SURVIVOR- winner: Willy BRANDT, over Adenauer !
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on:
June 09, 2009, 05:32:45 pm »
1. Otto von Bismarck (1867-1890)
eliminated round seven
2. Leo von Caprivi (1890-1894)
eliminated round eleven
3. Chlodwig zu Hohenlohe-Schillingsfürst (1894-1900)
eliminated round ten
4. Bernhard von Bülow (1900-1909)
eliminated round nine
5. Theobald von Bethmann-Hollweg (1909-1917)
eliminated round eight
6. Georg Michaelis (1917)
eliminated round six
7. Georg von Hertling (1917-1918)
eliminated round fourteen
8. Maximilian von Baden (1918)
eliminated round fifteen
9. Friedrich Ebert (1918-1919)
eliminated round twenty-six
10. Philipp Scheidemann (1919)
eliminated round thirty
11. Gustav Bauer (1919-1920)
eliminated round seventeen
12. Hermann Müller (1920 and 1928-1930)
eliminated round nineteen
13. Konstantin Fehrenbach (1920-1921)
eliminated round twenty-three
14. Joseph Wirth (1921-1922)
eliminated round twenty-seven
15. Wilhelm Cuno (1922-1923)
eliminated round thirteen
16. Gustav Stresemann (1923)
eliminated round twenty-four
17. Wilhelm Marx (1923-1925 and 1926-1928)
eliminated round thirty-one
18. Hans Luther (1925-1926)
eliminated round twelve
19. Heinrich Brüning (1930-1932)
eliminated round sixteen
20. Franz von Papen (1932)
eliminated round four
21. Kurt von Schleicher (1932-1933)
eliminated round five
22. Adolf Hitler (1933-1945)
eliminated round one
23. Joseph Goebbels (1945)
eliminated round two
24. Lutz Schwerin von Krosigk (1945)
eliminated round three
25. Konrad Adenauer (1949-1963)
eliminated round thirty-two
26. Ludwig Erhard (1963-1966)
eliminated round twenty-two
27. Kurt Georg Kiesinger (1966-1969)
eliminated round eighteen
Winner
28. Willy Brandt (1969-1974)
Winner
29. Walter Scheel (1974)
eliminated round twenty-one
30. Helmut Schmidt (1974-1982)
eliminated round twenty-nine
31. Helmut Kohl (1982-1998)
eliminated round twenty
32. Gerhard Schröder (1998-2005)
eliminated round twenty-five
33. Angela Merkel (2005- ?)
eliminated round twenty-eight
Results :
round one:
Hitler 9
, Bismarck 1
round two:
Goebbels 8
, Bismarck 1, Scheel 1, Merkel 1
round three:
Krosigk 4
, Bismarck 2, Schleicher 2, Merkel 1
round four:
Papen 3
, Bismarck 2, Schleicher 2
round five:
Schleicher 4
, Bismarck 1, Michaelis 1
round six:
Michaelis 4
, Bismarck 2, Erhard 1
round seven:
Bismarck 2
, Bülow 1, Bethmann-Hollweg 1, von Baden 1
round eight:
Bethmann-Hollweg 2
, Bülow 1, Caprivi 1, Hertling 1
round nine:
Bülow 3
, von Baden 1, Hohenlohe 1
round ten:
Hohenlohe 3
, Caprivi 2, Luther 1
round eleven:
Caprivi 5
, Luther 1
round twelve:
Luther 3
, Cuno 2
round thirteen:
Cuno 4
, Hertling 3
round fourteen:
Hertling 8
,
Cuno 1 (invalid)
round fifteen:
von Baden 4
, Bauer 1, Müller 1, Erhard 1, Stresemann 1
round sixteen:
Brüning 5
, Bauer 4, Erhard 2
round seventeen:
Bauer 3
, Erhard 1, Kohl 1
round eighteen:
Kiesinger 3
, Kohl 2, Müller 1, Stresemann 1
round nineteen:
Müller 4
, Erhard 3, Stresemann 1
round twenty:
Kohl 5
, Schröder 2
round twenty-one:
Scheel 9
, Schmidt 1
round twenty-two:
Erhard 6
, Schröder 4, Schmidt 1
round twenty-three:
Fehrenbach 3
, Schröder 1, Stresemann 1
round twenty-four:
Stresemann 5
, Schröder 1
round twenty-five:
Schröder 5
, Wirth 3, Ebert 1, Merkel 1
round twenty-six:
Ebert 3
, Wirth 2, Merkel 1, Schmidt 1
round twenty-seven:
Wirth 6
, Schmidt 4, Merkel 1
round twenty-eight:
Merkel 7
, Schmidt 3
round twenty-nine:
Schmidt 5
, Brandt 1, Marx 1, Scheidemann 1
round thirty:
Scheidemann 5
, Marx 2, Adenauer 2
round thirty-one:
Marx 4
, Adenauer 3
round thirty-two:
Adenauer 10
, Brandt 8
winner:
Brandt
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #1 on:
June 09, 2009, 05:34:11 pm »
Yep, Hitler hasn't received 100 % in round one....
See, Lief, nothing is absolutely sure
Anyway, without any surprise for this round:
Goebbels
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #2 on:
June 09, 2009, 05:36:22 pm »
Goebbels
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #3 on:
June 09, 2009, 05:42:42 pm »
Joseph Goebbels
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
Quote
20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #4 on:
June 09, 2009, 06:25:50 pm »
Please please please keep it in one thread, Filliatre.
Also, Goebbels
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #5 on:
June 09, 2009, 06:28:48 pm »
Merkel, duh
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big bad fab
filliatre
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #6 on:
June 10, 2009, 02:02:28 am »
Quote from: At first I was afraid, I was platypus on June 09, 2009, 06:25:50 pm
Please please please keep it in one thread, Filliatre.
Why not, but what's the problem ? Does it take too much space and push other threads on the 2nd page too quickly ? Or do you want votes' "history" in the same thread ?
Looking forward to your answer !
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #7 on:
June 10, 2009, 02:03:17 am »
Both, but particularly the first concern.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #8 on:
June 10, 2009, 03:01:57 am »
Joseph Goebbels
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Old Europe
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #9 on:
June 10, 2009, 05:23:22 am »
Walter Scheel, because he was no Chancellor.
(There's no formal position of "Acting chancellor" in Germany and almost nobody in Germany would claim that Scheel was Chancellor once. He was foreign minister and vice chancellor and for a few days during his term there wasn't a Chancellor, so he was the highest-ranking government official for this period of time. If we pursue the nitpicking even further: Scheel wasn't acting chancellor, he was acting head of government. You're Chancellor if you're elected by the Bundestag. No election, no Chancellor.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #10 on:
June 10, 2009, 05:41:03 am »
Joseph Goebbels
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #11 on:
June 10, 2009, 06:26:07 am »
Goebbels
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I've lost interest in the forum and I've wasted far too much time here.
To those I consider forum friends, it's been nice and I hope to keep contact in some form.
Cheers.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #12 on:
June 10, 2009, 08:39:05 am »
Quote from: Old Europe on June 10, 2009, 05:23:22 am
Walter Scheel, because he was no Chancellor.
(There's no formal position of "Acting chancellor" in Germany and almost nobody in Germany would claim that Scheel was Chancellor once. He was foreign minister and vice chancellor and for a few days during his term there wasn't a Chancellor, so he was the highest-ranking government official for this period of time. If we pursue the nitpicking even further: Scheel wasn't acting chancellor, he was acting head of government. You're Chancellor if you're elected by the Bundestag. No election, no Chancellor.
)
True, there isn't any "acting chancellor", but article 69 of German Basic Law is about the deputy federal Chancellor and about the fact that the president is able to ask a minister to take care of business during a vacancy. Hasn't Scheel been asked to rule the transition ?
One more evidence that it's better to ask everyone before launching a Survivor which is more than a list completely decided only by its "creator"...
Anyway, I won't change the list now and, as I've said before, Scheidemann hadn't the title of Chancellor.
And I may add that Krosigk refused to hold the title of Chancellor of the Reich, but it was pointless since he acted during only a few days and his government wasn't agreed by the Allies.
So let's keep those 3 exceptions, in one way or another.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #13 on:
June 10, 2009, 10:16:44 am »
23. Joseph Goebbels (1945)
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round TWO
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Reply #14 on:
June 10, 2009, 10:40:32 am »
Bismarck. Same reasoning as before.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #15 on:
June 10, 2009, 05:30:54 pm »
Results of round two: Goebbels is out, but not with all the votes.
ROUND THREE IS OPEN
And I vote for Krosigk,
judged at Nuremberg, not exactly a nice guy, another hypocritical man, who wasn't a member of the NSDAP, but who was a real supporter and an actor.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #16 on:
June 10, 2009, 07:23:27 pm »
Otto von Bismarck
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
Quote
20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #17 on:
June 11, 2009, 12:27:58 am »
Lutz Schwerin von Krosigk
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #18 on:
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Krosigk
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #19 on:
June 11, 2009, 01:16:42 am »
Krosigk
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Reply #20 on:
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Bismarck.
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Kurt von Schleicher
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Merkel
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round THREE
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Kurt von Schleicher
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Re: German Chancellors Survivor - Round FOUR
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Reply #24 on:
June 11, 2009, 06:12:20 pm »
Krosigk fell in round 3.
ROUND FOUR IS OPEN
And I vote fo Franz von Papen,
a bad conservative, one of those who paved the way for Hitler.
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