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Stranger in a strange land
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« on: June 15, 2009, 03:54:35 PM »
This should be interesting...
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2009, 03:56:45 PM »
Yes (not a naive fool).
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2009, 04:02:57 PM »
Yes. Although this doesn't mean Ahmadenijad couldn't have won it fair and square.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2009, 04:38:43 PM »
Quote from: sbane on June 15, 2009, 04:02:57 PM
Yes. Although this doesn't mean Ahmadenijad couldn't have won it fair and square.

true, but the provincial vote totals strongly suggest rigging.
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2009, 05:09:33 PM »
Yes, of course....although it would still be "rigged" without actual election fraud.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2009, 07:07:48 PM »
The rigging was as much of a slap in the face as the comment that there are no gays in Iran. You almost have to admire the arrogance.
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2009, 03:48:43 AM »
     Seems like this is a time for forum unity, eh?
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2009, 04:12:20 AM »
Of course.  What's surprising is how brazen they were about it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2009, 04:18:41 AM »
It's hard to immagine that a fraud can be enough to bring Ahmadinejad a 33-points margin if he had lost the election. It would mean an ubelievably massive and hyper-organized institutionnal fraud as in Russia or Algeria.
No, the worst of this horrible election is that a mad reactionnary was legallly re-elected after having been legally elected.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2009, 06:05:42 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM »
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley


jk  My vote is a yes but I mean "probably".
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2009, 08:39:46 PM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley

It's kind of sad that a Democrat agrees with that view Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2009, 08:50:45 PM »
Does sh*t stink?
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2009, 11:14:40 PM »
The numbers yes, the raw winner no.

As much as we might hate him, a majority of Iranians voted fpor him - just not two thirds.
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 12:07:46 PM »
Quote from: I feel alright, but music sounds better with you, platypus. on June 17, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
The numbers yes, the raw winner no.

As much as we might hate him, a majority of Iranians voted fpor him - just not two thirds.

How do you know? Did they let you in on the secret count? Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 02:30:46 PM »
The question isn't whether or not it was rigged, it's how badly was it rigged.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 03:11:59 PM »
Yes. But on a positive note, millions of Iranians are now registered to vote in Chicago's next municipal election.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2009, 07:57:19 PM »
Quote from: dead0man on June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley

Stay Republican.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2009, 07:57:22 PM »
There's really no way of knowing who won. This isn't a Mexico 1988 situation where they decided the count wasn't right and changed it. It's pretty clear that they made up numbers in a lot of places; they decided the election wasn't worth their time. I don't think we'll ever see an accurate count.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2009, 08:47:27 AM »
Quote from: Einzige on June 18, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
Quote from: dead0man on June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley

Stay Republican.

Stay LINO.
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2009, 09:02:11 AM »
Quote from: JSojourner on June 18, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Yes. But on a positive note, millions of Iranians are now registered to vote in Chicago's next municipal election.

I lawled.

Yes it was rigged.......to the max.
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2009, 11:32:11 AM »
Quote from: Einzige on June 18, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
Quote from: dead0man on June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley

Stay Republican.

On the Middle East, Jimmy Carter is dead wrong.  He is committed to take the anti-Israel position, probably more out of a reaction to the support Israel enjoys among American politicians than anything else.  He wants to stay relevant, so he attacks Israel.  His books are filled with misstatements, and ad hominem attacks on Israel, with no facts to back it up.  Then, when he's invited to debate the issue, he declines, because he knows he can't back it up.
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« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2009, 04:57:47 AM »
Quote from: Deeds for Governor '09 on June 19, 2009, 11:32:11 AM
Quote from: Einzige on June 18, 2009, 07:57:19 PM
Quote from: dead0man on June 16, 2009, 07:56:33 AM
What does Carter say?  The opposite of whatever that is. Smiley

Stay Republican.

On the Middle East, Jimmy Carter is dead wrong.  He is committed to take the anti-Israel position, probably more out of a reaction to the support Israel enjoys among American politicians than anything else.  He wants to stay relevant, so he attacks Israel.  His books are filled with misstatements, and ad hominem attacks on Israel, with no facts to back it up.  Then, when he's invited to debate the issue, he declines, because he knows he can't back it up.

so basically: criticism of Israel = wrong?
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2009, 10:52:22 AM »
Quote from: Eraserhead on June 18, 2009, 12:07:46 PM
Quote from: I feel alright, but music sounds better with you, platypus. on June 17, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
The numbers yes, the raw winner no.

As much as we might hate him, a majority of Iranians voted fpor him - just not two thirds.

How do you know? Did they let you in on the secret count? Tongue

Because Mousavi doesn't have majority support in Iran, and Ahmedinejad does.

I'd also note that everyone with the green avatars for supporting Mousavi's campaign is being a bit ridiculous. He isn't a reformer, he's part of the establishment and has the blood of thousands on his hands. 
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« Reply #24 on: June 20, 2009, 11:32:25 AM »
Quote from: I feel alright, but music sounds better with you, platypus. on June 20, 2009, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: Eraserhead on June 18, 2009, 12:07:46 PM
Quote from: I feel alright, but music sounds better with you, platypus. on June 17, 2009, 11:14:40 PM
The numbers yes, the raw winner no.

As much as we might hate him, a majority of Iranians voted fpor him - just not two thirds.

How do you know? Did they let you in on the secret count? Tongue

Because Mousavi doesn't have majority support in Iran, and Ahmedinejad does.

I'd also note that everyone with the green avatars for supporting Mousavi's campaign is being a bit ridiculous. He isn't a reformer, he's part of the establishment and has the blood of thousands on his hands. 

Things change. No one is supporting the Mousavi of old. It's a support for liberty.
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