GM Discussion Thread

[MaxQue]

Any taxes breaks will be opposed from me, expect in a few cases.

[Purple State]

Any taxes breaks will be opposed from me, expect in a few cases.

Well then those will be the ones we lower. That's how compromise works. Welcome, you two, to the most willing to compromise Senate ever.

[Хahar 🤔]

Any taxes breaks will be opposed from me, expect in a few cases.

Well then those will be the ones we lower. That's how compromise works. Welcome, you two, to the most willing to compromise Senate ever.

You don't begin negotiations looking to compromise. Compromise is something that takes place after all positions have been defined.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Any taxes breaks will be opposed from me, expect in a few cases.

Well then those will be the ones we lower. That's how compromise works. Welcome, you two, to the most willing to compromise Senate ever.

You don't begin negotiations looking to compromise. Compromise is something that takes place after all positions have been defined.

Oh God.. I'm in agreement with Xahar..

[Purple State]

Any taxes breaks will be opposed from me, expect in a few cases.

Well then those will be the ones we lower. That's how compromise works. Welcome, you two, to the most willing to compromise Senate ever.

You don't begin negotiations looking to compromise. Compromise is something that takes place after all positions have been defined.

Have not positions been defined? NC Yank wants tax cuts. MaxQue wants as few tax cuts as possible. And so we will find a suitable mix of the two when we bring legislation in the Senate.

[Franzl]

I'm generally open to the idea of tax cuts, although they should be somewhat responsible and should be combined with investments that are designed to have a stimulating effect.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm generally open to the idea of tax cuts, although they should be somewhat responsible and should be combined with investments that are designed to have a stimulating effect.

Ah, well, I look forward to that debate

Tax cuts are, largely, useless in comparison to a vast increase in government spending, when it comes to stimulating the economy and generating per-dollar economic activity.

[Franzl]

One problem with not having a real budget is that we have no idea what really is "responsible" and how much money we have/need.

All these debates are entirely theoretical.

[Purple State]

One problem with not having a real budget is that we have no idea what really is "responsible" and how much money we have/need.

All these debates are entirely theoretical.

With that said, could the GM keep track of Revenues and Expenses of the government? This would help us determine the surplus/deficit. And I would ask you not use the current US deficit, as that isn't something we could handle here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I do not close the door to lowering some taxes, but I will insist on stimulus spending as well. Not to worry, there will not be silly, non-stimulative spending wrapped up in there.

And I absolutely expect you to be more conservative than you put out there. You are a Southerner after all.

You shall see my friend. I do represent millions of poor people in the Appalachias, and I myself am poor, for all you know, I am a closet Socialist.

[Brandon H]

I'll look at trying to compose some sort of budget, but it takes some work and anyone who served in the senate at the time of dealing with a budget will agree that it was one of the least fun aspects of the game.

For the most part, I don't expect to update the numbers until a new bill is signed into law. It looks like the Court is close to issuing a verdict in the presidential election suit. Unless we end up with more controversy, the market should be relatively stable.

[Vepres]

I'll look at trying to compose some sort of budget, but it takes some work and anyone who served in the senate at the time of dealing with a budget will agree that it was one of the least fun aspects of the game.

It doesn't have to be exact. Just an estimate and whether it's rising, falling, or being static.

Not to worry, there will not be silly, non-stimulative spending wrapped up in there.

But this is supposed to simulate politics.

[Vepres]

I'm glad you're active, but don't simply report the news, report what happens as a consequence of those events. Though I guess you'll have to wait for legislation to start passing.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I'm glad you're active, but don't simply report the news, report what happens as a consequence of those events. Though I guess you'll have to wait for legislation to start passing.

     He could report on the effects of older legislation as well.

[Brandon H]

I'm glad you're active, but don't simply report the news, report what happens as a consequence of those events. Though I guess you'll have to wait for legislation to start passing.

     He could report on the effects of older legislation as well.

I could look at some older legislation, but at this point I am waiting for the Senate to pass some important things.

[HappyWarrior]

Will you be posting the state of the world in terms of foreign government since I'm sure Atlasian policy over the years has left it in a very different place than IRL.

[Brandon H]

I will be working on foreign relations, but it will be a bit tricky. I do have a little something from Iran to work with. If there is any particular country (or countries) you want me to try to come up with their current status I will look at past postings on here to see if I can come up with something.

[HappyWarrior]

I will be working on foreign relations, but it will be a bit tricky. I do have a little something from Iran to work with. If there is any particular country (or countries) you want me to try to come up with their current status I will look at past postings on here to see if I can come up with something.

Mainly Somalia and the various Middle East nations, as well as the effects of the various FTAs.

[Purple State]

I will be working on foreign relations, but it will be a bit tricky. I do have a little something from Iran to work with. If there is any particular country (or countries) you want me to try to come up with their current status I will look at past postings on here to see if I can come up with something.

Mainly Somalia and the various Middle East nations, as well as the effects of the various FTAs.

I would be interesting to hear what the effects of the Senate's Middle East legislation is having on the region

[ilikeverin]

I will be working on foreign relations, but it will be a bit tricky. I do have a little something from Iran to work with. If there is any particular country (or countries) you want me to try to come up with their current status I will look at past postings on here to see if I can come up with something.

Mainly Somalia and the various Middle East nations, as well as the effects of the various FTAs.

I believe Atlasia recognized Somaliland a while ago

[HappyWarrior]

I will be working on foreign relations, but it will be a bit tricky. I do have a little something from Iran to work with. If there is any particular country (or countries) you want me to try to come up with their current status I will look at past postings on here to see if I can come up with something.

Mainly Somalia and the various Middle East nations, as well as the effects of the various FTAs.

I believe Atlasia recognized Somaliland a while ago

I am very well aware since I helped get that bill passed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its unfortunate that my warnings in regard to the Trade act before the Senate have come to pass. The result of this will be greater islamic isolation from the rest of the world and will set Democracy and Atlasia relations back 30 years. And ironically set Gay Rights abroad back 100 years. This is what feel good policies get you.

As for the credit card reform I must say that is one of the worst bills brought before the Senate in recent history and I intend to introduce legislation to either repeal or significantly modify it by the end of the month.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Its unfortunate that my warnings in regard to the Trade act before the Senate have come to pass. The result of this will be greater islamic isolation from the rest of the world and will set Democracy and Atlasia relations back 30 years. And ironically set Gay Rights abroad back 100 years. This is what feel good policies get you.

We shouldn't trade with countries that criminalize being a minority, trade has done nothing to improve the advancement of gay rights abroad. I'm sorry my socially conservative colleague sides with the backward individuals from the 3rd World.

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Good. Luck.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Its unfortunate that my warnings in regard to the Trade act before the Senate have come to pass. The result of this will be greater islamic isolation from the rest of the world and will set Democracy and Atlasia relations back 30 years. And ironically set Gay Rights abroad back 100 years. This is what feel good policies get you.

We shouldn't trade with countries that criminalize being a minority, trade has done nothing to improve the advancement of gay rights abroad. I'm sorry my socially conservative colleague sides with the backward individuals from the 3rd World.

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Good. Luck.

MArokai you are not helping them, if anything this will lead countries like Iran to crack down on Gays and Lesbians claiming Atlasian influence. Its just a feel good measure that will benefit no one and is instead counterproductive.

As for the Credit Card bill, you failed to take into account the current recession and the effect that such legislation will have on people, especially the poor. It will also make impossible the "recovery" of a persons credit which often occurs by people making small purchases then paying it back early or on time to build there credit score, making it possible for people who were irresponsible early in the adult years to eventually enjoy owning there own home etc, etc.

The overall problem with legislation the Senate has passed is that it fails to take into account the effect that the lefislation will have, not the "theoretical" effects that the sponsors believe it will have.

[HappyWarrior]

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I laughed so hard.