What would happen in 2012 if........

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

Ok, it's the 2012 election.

A huge hurricane hits Texas and Oklahoma, demolishing the states. Obama works very hard to rebuild the states. It is a success. Because of this, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana start to support Obama. When another hurricane hits those states, Obama does just as he did with OK and TX.

A tornado outbreak happens across the states of Minnesota, Iowa, Kansas, the Dakotas, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska. The republican doesn't even care about campaigning any more and helps the states effected by the tornadoes. But Obama is the only one who helps in Iowa.

Obama gains support in the mountain west and northeast during a huge blizzard.

The republican works hard in the appalachian region.

What are the results?

discuss /w maps.

[Franzl]

ugh. what.

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

ugh. what.

what do you want me to clarify?

[Franzl]

ugh. what.

what do you want me to clarify?

How are you supposed to make a prediction based on such limited information?

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

ugh. what.

what do you want me to clarify?

How are you supposed to make a prediction based on such limited information?

waddaya mean, limited info?

i said,

Ok, it's the 2012 election.

A huge hurricane hits Texas and Oklahoma, demolishing the states. Obama works very hard to rebuild the states. It is a success. Because of this, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana start to support Obama. When another hurricane hits those states, Obama does just as he did with OK and TX.

A tornado outbreak happens across the states of Minnesota, Iowa, Kansas, the Dakotas, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nebraska. The republican doesn't even care about campaigning any more and helps the states effected by the tornadoes. But Obama is the only one who helps in Iowa.

Obama gains support in the mountain west and northeast during a huge blizzard.

The republican works hard in the appalachian region.

What are the results?

discuss /w maps.

that is a lot of info; probably one of the largest posts of mine yet.

[Padfoot]

On November 5, 2012 almost the entire country is flooded when global warming reaches a tipping point and the oceans rise by 1,000 feet.  Obama sucks up all the water with a giant hose and launches it into space.  The Republican eats a doughnut.  Discuss with maps.

[??????????]

I thought you quit the forum Scatmusic?

[Zarn]

In that scenario, Specter turncoats again, and wins 44 states as the Republican (loses Michigan, Virginia, Vermont, Illinois, Rhode Island, Hawaii, Denial, and Insanity) with Michael Jackson's corpse as his running mate.

It's the only reasonable outcome.

[hcallega]

In 2010 Carl Edwards NASCAR Car flies into the stands, but has an atomic bomb attached to it. Luckily President Obama uses his superpowers to stop it in mid-air, allow Edwards to leave the car, and then he launches it into the ocean. Discuss with maps.

[Zarn]

It would still be my outcome, except Specter gets Vermont.

[JerryBrown2010]

ugh. what.

what do you want me to clarify?

How are you supposed to make a prediction based on such limited information?

MY GOD he said enough.

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

discuss w/ maps

[DS0816]

Ok, it's the 2012 election.

A huge hurricane hits Texas and Oklahoma, demolishing the states. Obama works very hard to rebuild the states. It is a success. Because of this, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Louisiana start to support Obama. When another hurricane hits those states, Obama does just as he did with OK and TX.

Vote shifts/swings in Obama's/Democrats' direction. This string of natural disasters will awaken some residents of those states to the reality of the incompetence of 43rd president George W. Bush (particularly with 2005 Hurricane Katrina, in New Orleans, Louisiana).

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Before offering anything further, a word about me: I live in Michigan. In your scenario, the Wolverine State has the mildest damage and the area affected is in the upper peninsula. (I'm in the southeast; the Detroit market which will be entirely untouched).


I can't produce a map (or don't know how; unlike with the past Election 2008 season). Basically it sounds like Barack Obama takes care of Iowa. But nothing was written of the other states, so I'll assume Obama takes care of them as well. The Republican courts Appalachians (without success).

Here's what I'll say: All 2008 states Barack Obama carried see their margins increase.


Alaska, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming carry for the Republican challenger (but with none of them surpassing a 10-point margin; 45 and over crowd make sure of that; but don't be ungrateful: after all they shifted/swung Democratic. Again). Oklahoma doesn't give a **** (see comment, below).

Some Highlights…
 
• In the plains and Texas, there is a dramatic shift/swing that, on average, swings above average of the U.S. popular vote of 12.5 more points in Obama's direction. (The Lone Star State is the closest.)
• Arkansas and Louisiana don't ever like to disagree in a presidential election, as they did in 1964; so the two shift/swing dramatically but insist that they once again agree on the result.
• Oklahoma is to Election 2012 what La. was to Election 2008. (It shifts five points more for the GOP.)
• Alabama and Mississippi are smarter and more receptive to Obama. But Miss. was better for 2008 Obama and always feels mystified whether Ala. would be willing to collapse the 20-plus-point margin by which John McCain carried the state in 2008. (No one holds their breath anticipating the flip.)
• Some notoriously Democratic states cannot swing to the national average because they went high enough in Election 2008: Massachusetts and Hawaii, to name two.
• The 44th president of the United States wins re-election, in Election 2012, with 66 percent of the vote and a minimum 450 electoral votes. But the good news is that Missouri, which used to be The Bellwether of the Nation and got it shamefully wrong in Election 2008 (because it shifted/swung 7.1 of its 7.2-point margin, from 2004, and failed to back Obama by 3,900-plus votes and -.1 margin), swings to, and carries for, Obama. (In other words, in Election 2012, Mo. gets back into the habit of siding with the winning candidate as we normally expect it to do.)
 
Now I need some Aspirin!

[DemocratsVictory2008]

Oklahoma is hopeless..theyd vote Limbaugh over Obama lol. Texas i can only see in an extreme landslide going Blue

[You kip if you want to...]

Oklahoma is hopeless..theyd vote Limbaugh over Obama lol. Texas i can only see in an extreme landslide going Blue

Texas will be a toss up by the end of the next decade IMO.

[7,052,770]

Ignoring how a hurricane would "demolish" the state of Texas or even hit Oklahoma, or any of the other implausibilities of the scenario, I'll just post the map:

Obama wins 417-121.

[the artist formerly known as catmusic]

Ignoring how a hurricane would "demolish" the state of Texas or even hit Oklahoma, or any of the other implausibilities of the scenario, I'll just post the map:

Obama wins 417-121.

FINALLY! A MAP!

Hurricanes have hit Oklahoma, btw.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Catmusic, you are unique !

Also, the hurricane is so powerful that it cause the accidental explosion of a giant nuclear bomb. As a result, presidential candidates are teleported in 1860. Though they understand nothing about issues, they believe to be still in 2008 and so run for the 1860 presidential election. However, since McCain comes from a state that didn't exist, he can not run for the presidency. Obama surprisingly wins the nomination of the Republican Party against Lincoln. However, during the democratic Convention, a bombing happens and every prominent political figure dies. The democrats are so desperate that the nominate Lincoln by unanimity. However, we later discover that Adolf Hitler had never killed himself : instead, he has also been teleported in 1860. Also, he shots Fillmore and tricks for his birth certificate in order to run for election. Since democrats and republicans seem totally ridiculous after what happened, Hitler ( whose political positions are totally unknown ) creates a Great Coalition regrouping all the moderates. However, we rapidly discover that Louis XIV had also been teleported here and he decides to run as a Whig because he wears a wig.

Adolf Würtzel Tannerbaun Hitler ( Union ) : 43%, 152 E.V.
Abraham Lincoln ( Democrat ) : 31%, 90 E.V.
Louis Albert René Charles Gustave Nicolas "Fourteen" Bourbon ( Whig ) : 20%, 39 E.V.
Barack Hussein Obama ( Republican ) : 6%, 22 E.V.

After that, President Hitler tries to conquier the world once again, but he is beaten and USA are entirely destroyed by the Alliees ( Russian Empire, France, Great Britain, Austria-Hungary, etc... ) and become the greatest desert in the world.

[Mechaman]

Catmusic, you are unique !

Also, the hurricane is so powerful that it cause the accidental explosion of a giant nuclear bomb. As a result, presidential candidates are teleported in 1860. Though they understand nothing about issues, they believe to be still in 2008 and so run for the 1860 presidential election. However, since McCain comes from a state that didn't exist, he can not run for the presidency. Obama surprisingly wins the nomination of the Republican Party against Lincoln. However, during the democratic Convention, a bombing happens and every prominent political figure dies. The democrats are so desperate that the nominate Lincoln by unanimity. However, we later discover that Adolf Hitler had never killed himself : instead, he has also been teleported in 1860. Also, he shots Fillmore and tricks for his birth certificate in order to run for election. Since democrats and republicans seem totally ridiculous after what happened, Hitler ( whose political positions are totally unknown ) creates a Great Coalition regrouping all the moderates. However, we rapidly discover that Louis XIV had also been teleported here and he decides to run as a Whig because he wears a wig.

Adolf Würtzel Tannerbaun Hitler ( Union ) : 43%, 152 E.V.
Abraham Lincoln ( Democrat ) : 31%, 90 E.V.
Louis Albert René Charles Gustave Nicolas "Fourteen" Bourbon ( Whig ) : 20%, 39 E.V.
Barack Hussein Obama ( Republican ) : 6%, 22 E.V.

After that, President Hitler tries to conquier the world once again, but he is beaten and USA are entirely destroyed by the Alliees ( Russian Empire, France, Great Britain, Austria-Hungary, etc... ) and become the greatest desert in the world.

A change in space time continuum? Holy Shit!

[Lief 🗽]

Ignoring how a hurricane would "demolish" the state of Texas or even hit Oklahoma, or any of the other implausibilities of the scenario, I'll just post the map:

Obama wins 417-121.

FINALLY! A MAP!

Hurricanes have hit Oklahoma, btw.

Nope: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg

[Zarn]

Catmusic, you are unique !

Also, the hurricane is so powerful that it cause the accidental explosion of a giant nuclear bomb. As a result, presidential candidates are teleported in 1860. Though they understand nothing about issues, they believe to be still in 2008 and so run for the 1860 presidential election. However, since McCain comes from a state that didn't exist, he can not run for the presidency. Obama surprisingly wins the nomination of the Republican Party against Lincoln. However, during the democratic Convention, a bombing happens and every prominent political figure dies. The democrats are so desperate that the nominate Lincoln by unanimity. However, we later discover that Adolf Hitler had never killed himself : instead, he has also been teleported in 1860. Also, he shots Fillmore and tricks for his birth certificate in order to run for election. Since democrats and republicans seem totally ridiculous after what happened, Hitler ( whose political positions are totally unknown ) creates a Great Coalition regrouping all the moderates. However, we rapidly discover that Louis XIV had also been teleported here and he decides to run as a Whig because he wears a wig.

Adolf Würtzel Tannerbaun Hitler ( Union ) : 43%, 152 E.V.
Abraham Lincoln ( Democrat ) : 31%, 90 E.V.
Louis Albert René Charles Gustave Nicolas "Fourteen" Bourbon ( Whig ) : 20%, 39 E.V.
Barack Hussein Obama ( Republican ) : 6%, 22 E.V.

After that, President Hitler tries to conquier the world once again, but he is beaten and USA are entirely destroyed by the Alliees ( Russian Empire, France, Great Britain, Austria-Hungary, etc... ) and become the greatest desert in the world.

Obama was born in Hawaii...

Mac in the Panama Canal Zone

[Antonio the Sixth]

Catmusic, you are unique !

Also, the hurricane is so powerful that it cause the accidental explosion of a giant nuclear bomb. As a result, presidential candidates are teleported in 1860. Though they understand nothing about issues, they believe to be still in 2008 and so run for the 1860 presidential election. However, since McCain comes from a state that didn't exist, he can not run for the presidency. Obama surprisingly wins the nomination of the Republican Party against Lincoln. However, during the democratic Convention, a bombing happens and every prominent political figure dies. The democrats are so desperate that the nominate Lincoln by unanimity. However, we later discover that Adolf Hitler had never killed himself : instead, he has also been teleported in 1860. Also, he shots Fillmore and tricks for his birth certificate in order to run for election. Since democrats and republicans seem totally ridiculous after what happened, Hitler ( whose political positions are totally unknown ) creates a Great Coalition regrouping all the moderates. However, we rapidly discover that Louis XIV had also been teleported here and he decides to run as a Whig because he wears a wig.

Adolf Würtzel Tannerbaun Hitler ( Union ) : 43%, 152 E.V.
Abraham Lincoln ( Democrat ) : 31%, 90 E.V.
Louis Albert René Charles Gustave Nicolas "Fourteen" Bourbon ( Whig ) : 20%, 39 E.V.
Barack Hussein Obama ( Republican ) : 6%, 22 E.V.

After that, President Hitler tries to conquier the world once again, but he is beaten and USA are entirely destroyed by the Alliees ( Russian Empire, France, Great Britain, Austria-Hungary, etc... ) and become the greatest desert in the world.

Obama was born in Hawaii...

Mac in the Panama Canal Zone

Yes, but they live respectively in Illinois ( which existed ) and Arizona ( which didn't ). Since this topic is totally nonsensical, we can still say that Obama corrupted a civil servant in order to get a false birth certificate ( as did Hitler and Mr. Bourbon ), whereas McCain didn't.

[Hash]

Georges Marchais elected unopposed with Jean Royer as his running mate.

[zclark1994]

This is the most unrealistic scenario ever.  I'm not even going to comment.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This is the most unrealistic scenario ever.

You are wrong : Catmusic did worse ones...