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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Reply #150 on:
July 15, 2009, 05:15:32 pm »
Quote from: the506 on July 15, 2009, 05:10:36 pm
Quote from: SoFA EarlAW on July 15, 2009, 04:46:34 pm
The NDP won a poll in Wakefield last time, but they lost it. Weird that they won a poll in Angers.
They won a poll in Cantley too, you can see it if you pull up the large version.
I saw that in the results, but I thought it was a combined poll.
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Did the Greens win any polls in Quebec? Might there be a riding where
five
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Quote from: Kevinstat on July 15, 2009, 06:13:26 pm
Did the Greens win any polls in Quebec? Might there be a riding where
five
candidates carried at least one poll?
It would be an independent as the 5th party, if there is. If the Greens won a poll in Quebec, it wouldn't be in the same district as the NDP. Maybe Portneuf? I doubt it though.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 16, 2009, 01:36:13 pm »
Quote from: SoFA EarlAW on July 12, 2009, 01:43:33 pm
You could probably gerrymander an NDP riding into there somewhere.
In Regina, that wouldn't be a gerrymander.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 16, 2009, 05:41:48 pm »
Here's a series of Vancouver Island ridings...first, Vancouver Island North:
The rest of the island:
And the Victoria area:
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July 16, 2009, 07:14:53 pm »
Wow. Vancouver Island hurts my eyes.
Strangely, no green polls. Also, Saanich-Gulf Islands would look different if the NDP candidate didn't drop out. I'm thinking all those polls near Victoria would be more of a Liberal-NDP mix.
Also, after looking at this, aside from Victoria, it appears Vancouver Island is a lot like Northern Ontario, in that the rural areas are more likely to support NDP.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Did Blair Wilson win any polls in West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country?
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Quote from: Independência ou Morte! on July 16, 2009, 07:16:10 pm
Did Blair Wilson win any polls in West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country?
He won six polls, and tied two others. the506 sent me a table showing how many polls each party won in each district.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 16, 2009, 07:31:01 pm »
Quote from: SoFA EarlAW on July 16, 2009, 07:22:31 pm
Quote from: Independência ou Morte! on July 16, 2009, 07:16:10 pm
Did Blair Wilson win any polls in West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country?
He won six polls, and tied two others. the506 sent me a table showing how many polls each party won in each district.
Mind forwarding it to me, mar plij?
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Quote from: Independência ou Morte! on July 16, 2009, 07:31:01 pm
Quote from: SoFA EarlAW on July 16, 2009, 07:22:31 pm
Quote from: Independência ou Morte! on July 16, 2009, 07:16:10 pm
Did Blair Wilson win any polls in West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country?
He won six polls, and tied two others. the506 sent me a table showing how many polls each party won in each district.
Mind forwarding it to me, mar plij?
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 16, 2009, 08:42:05 pm »
For anyone else, here it is:
http://www.the506.com/elxnmaps/polls.xls
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July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am »
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
Also, wow at Nanaimo itself. Does it just naturally fall into a northside and a southside, or is there a lot of personal vote for incumbents involved in creating that impression?
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July 17, 2009, 03:44:30 am »
Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
Also, wow at Nanaimo itself. Does it just naturally fall into a northside and a southside, or is there a lot of personal vote for incumbents involved in creating that impression?
I was looking at Nanaimo and wondering that myself - although I was wondering if it was a bit of a gerrymander, given that the riding that the northern half falls in seems to be predominantly Conservative, but with some strong NDP polls, whereas the riding in the southern half of the city seems to be a pretty strong NDP riding throughout - so I was wondering if the Tory end of the city had been deliberately put in a possibly marginal Tory riding to bolster the vote, whereas the NDP end had been left in a strong NDP riding?
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July 17, 2009, 04:04:58 am »
It's not as if splitting the town can be avoided, except maybe by drawing a district tightly around it and having another connecting coastal areas north and south of it, nominally connected through the comparatively empty west coast - now that would be a gerrymander (though it wouldn't look it).
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Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 04:04:58 am
It's not as if splitting the town can be avoided, except maybe by drawing a district tightly around it and having another connecting coastal areas north and south of it, nominally connected through the comparatively empty west coast - now that would be a gerrymander (though it wouldn't look it).
Yeah - that's what I thought would be the (perhaps more natural) riding - the town and its surrounds? Probably more of a community of interest around the one town, rather than splitting it? Anyway, it may not be a problem, as you said, it might be more the personal vote of a popular incumbent, or it may be, as Earl suggested in a previous thread, strategic voting.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
It's one of those areas where old middle class people go to die.
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Also, wow at Nanaimo itself. Does it just naturally fall into a northside and a southside, or is there a lot of personal vote for incumbents involved in creating that impression?
It's a fairly natural (ie; class) division IIRC.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Quote from: Sibboleth on July 17, 2009, 08:52:30 am
Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
It's one of those areas where old middle class people go to die.
Might have guessed. Semi sorta did, actually.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 17, 2009, 09:06:39 am »
I assume the large swaths of land voting NDP on Vancouver Island are industrial areas dominated by logging of some sort, or mining if it's still around (there was coal mining in Nanaimo at the turn of the 20th century, and Nanaimo elected Socialist Party MLAs).
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 08:56:59 am
Quote from: Sibboleth on July 17, 2009, 08:52:30 am
Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
It's one of those areas where old middle class people go to die.
Might have guessed. Semi sorta did, actually.
Some of those old people vote NDP, though. Vancouver Island is full of them.
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Quote from: SoFA EarlAW on July 17, 2009, 09:08:25 am
Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 08:56:59 am
Quote from: Sibboleth on July 17, 2009, 08:52:30 am
Quote from: Trondheim the Chicken or Lewis the Egg on July 17, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Why is that stretch along the east coast (North from Nanaimo) so Conservative?
It's one of those areas where old middle class people go to die.
Might have guessed. Semi sorta did, actually.
Some of those old people vote NDP, though. Vancouver Island is full of them.
Well there's a difference between old people who go there to die and old people who've lived there all their life...
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After having looked at a map of Nanaimo, I can see most of the old city is in Nanaimo-Cowichan, whereas the newer developments are in Nanaimo-Alberni.
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Re: Canadian federal polling division files
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July 18, 2009, 09:38:01 am »
West Vancouver-Sunshine Coast:
I'm surprised how blue the city of West Vancouver is.
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July 18, 2009, 09:47:21 am »
West Vancouver is where most of the people live in this riding. Some interesting things going on outside WestVan though, like in Whistler. The map seems to show some heavy vote splitting there between the Greens and Liberals (and possibly to a lesser extent the NDP) allowing the Tories to win a few polls.
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Western Arctic would be interesting.
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Why is Bowen Island so liberal? Makes little sense from what the wiki has to say about how it is
now
- you can guess from the article that it is latte liberal, but are left wondering why.
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