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« on: June 28, 2009, 09:12:06 PM »
« edited: July 07, 2009, 07:06:35 PM by Senator MasterJedi, PPT »
Adding the GM Bill

Article VIII, Section 2 of the Atlasian Constitution shall hereby include the following as Clause 6:

6. The position of Game Moderator is established to provide frequent and timely updates to the President, Senate and people of Atlasia on the foreign and domestic events as they occur.

The GM shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.
The GM shall serve at the pleasure of the President and the Senate and may be dismissed by the President or removed by a two-thirds vote of the Senate.
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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 10:56:07 PM »
     I like this bill.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 11:00:09 PM »
The one Dan and I wrote is much better. Wink
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 11:01:48 PM »

I don't doubt it. I just wanted a quick way to get it into the Constitution with a viable legal framework. I have never really believed in the lame duck session being all that lame, especially when I'm not the one leaving office.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 12:06:24 AM »
Isn't this a constitutional amendment, not a bill?
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 08:02:24 AM »
Quote from: bgwah on June 29, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
Isn't this a constitutional amendment, not a bill?

The amendment is called "Adding the GM Bill".
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 06:54:39 PM »
Quote from: Senator Purple State on June 28, 2009, 11:01:48 PM

I don't doubt it. I just wanted a quick way to get it into the Constitution with a viable legal framework. I have never really believed in the lame duck session being all that lame, especially when I'm not the one leaving office.

On further consideration, I think you are right that this needs to be in the Constitution. Indeed some of this the same like the 2/3's requirement.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 08:13:09 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on June 29, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
Isn't this a constitutional amendment, not a bill?

It is technically an amendment, but it is in a part of the Constitution (Article VII, Section 2) that can be added as though by statute.
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2009, 06:12:10 PM »
Shall we bring this to a final vote tonight?
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2009, 06:12:56 PM »
Quote from: Senator Purple State on July 01, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
Shall we bring this to a final vote tonight?

That's what I've been planning on doing. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2009, 09:29:56 PM »
I hereby open up a final vote on this bill. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

Aye
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2009, 09:40:39 PM »
AYE
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009, 09:50:48 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2009, 10:01:33 PM »
Nay (Can't we have more time to debate these things? Shoving important legislation to circumvent a loss in court right at the end of a legislative session is pretty low. Also, I don't like the fact that this amends the constitution via a Senate measure. Not only is legality questionable, but this is an important matter than we should deal with with more time.)
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2009, 10:03:18 PM »
Quote from: Senator Marokai Blue on July 01, 2009, 10:01:33 PM
Nay (Can't we have more time to debate these things? Shoving important legislation to circumvent a loss in court right at the end of a legislative session is pretty low. Also, I don't like the fact that this amends the constitution via a Senate measure. Not only is legality questionable, but this is an important matter than we should deal with with more time.)

You had 3 days and said nothing. And there was no real debate between actual Senators and in over a day too.
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2009, 10:07:06 PM »
Quote from: Senator Marokai Blue on July 01, 2009, 10:01:33 PM
Nay (Can't we have more time to debate these things? Shoving important legislation to circumvent a loss in court right at the end of a legislative session is pretty low. Also, I don't like the fact that this amends the constitution via a Senate measure. Not only is legality questionable, but this is an important matter than we should deal with with more time.)

Then where have you been when the debating period was open? I didn't attempt to force it through. No one had any questions so I assumed it was generally agreed upon.
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2009, 10:08:00 PM »
     Aye
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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2009, 06:35:39 PM »
I must say that I'm uncomfortable with essentially amending the constitution with a Senate bill, even it may technically be legal.
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2009, 06:37:24 PM »
Quote from: Lief on July 07, 2009, 06:35:39 PM
I must say that I'm uncomfortable with essentially amending the constitution with a Senate bill, even it may technically be legal.

This isn't on the floor anymore. This was the last senate.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2009, 06:40:05 PM »
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Current_Senate_Rules%2C_Regulations%2C_and_Procedures#Article_9:_Transitionary_Arrangements

I don't think so, unless the Wiki is out of date (or I'm reading it wrong).
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2009, 06:42:53 PM »

Didn't even know about that, besides the fact that its never been followed as far as I know. PS didn't want to re-introduce it so we'll just go with that he withdrew it and no one sponsored it in time.
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2009, 06:43:51 PM »
Alright, it's not really a big deal, as I see there's another bill on the GM currently on the floor.
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« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2009, 06:45:27 PM »
Quote from: Senator MasterJedi, PPT on July 07, 2009, 06:42:53 PM

Didn't even know about that, besides the fact that its never been followed as far as I know. PS didn't want to re-introduce it so we'll just go with that he withdrew it and no one sponsored it in time.

Since PS co-sponsored and help me craft mine, I assume that he intended to not continue with this one.
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« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2009, 07:02:13 PM »
Yes, I have withdrawn this from the floor.
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