opinion of 'obama's energy bill'?

[WalterMitty]

strongly support.

it is time like these that i wish john boehner, with his spray-on tan, would just go away.

[Rowan]

Why do you "strongly support" higher taxes and less jobs?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Oppose:

Cap and trade is at best an inefficient way to achieve the desired goals that allows politicians to obscure when they to try and pick winners and losers in the economy.  The way this bill is implementing cap and trade is a abomination thanks to all the compromises that have been made so far, and will need to be made to get it passed in the Senate.

A carbon tax has many advantages over cap and trade, not least of which is the ability to more precisely control the effect on the economy so that it never strangles it as cap and trade can do if the cap is set too low.  Plus it is simpler to enforce, and the revenues are captured by the government rather than old-line polluters, enabling the government to use it to reduce other taxes, pay off the debt, or fund new programs.

Cap and trade schemes can work in certain circumstances, where the number of affected entities is small enough to make monitoring and compliance feasible as is the case with SO₂ emissions.  That isn't the case with CO₂ plus we have the problem of quite a few bogus and/or exaggerated offsets in the greenhouse gas emissions market.

[Mint]

Why do you "strongly support" higher taxes and less jobs?

^^^

I was initially open to the concept, then I did some more research and got a reality check. It's a shame the 'big two' last year endorsed such a horrendous concept. Now with that said we could still do plenty to reduce emissions like upgrading existing plants/building non-coal ones, tax credits, etc. All of those would yield more of an effect without the enormous burden this is going to impose on a lot of families.

[Eraserhead]

Support

[Lief 🗽]

Support (doesn't want the Earth to be destroyed)

[Rowan]

Support (doesn't want the Earth to be destroyed)

That would be a good idea if this bill actually did something for "climate change." It doesn't do anything about it, try reading up on it.

[Хahar 🤔]

Support (likes taxes)

[Mechaman]

Slightly oppose. I don't think this bill is too crazy, but it can lead to alot of it.

This leaves the door open to alot of crazy. Frankly I'm kind of concerned that the Congress considered this a bigger agenda than something like say.....GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF POVERTY! Who knows when the envirofacists (hey I'm pretty green, but I draw the line at people losing their jobs or starving to death) will start pulling batsh**t moves like taxing the air I breathe?

[Mint]

hey I'm pretty green, but I draw the line at people losing their jobs or starving to death) will start pulling batsh**t moves like taxing the air I breathe?

Well they're trying to tax cow farts already so maybe that's not far off.

[Frodo]

Would have preferred a carbon tax to a carbon trading scheme (along with more reliance on nuclear energy as a short-medium term solution, supplemented by renewables), but something is better than nothing. 

[Storebought]

How can anyone support legislation that no one has even read?

[Nym90]

Support.

[Earth]

Oppose.