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should Al Franken receive back pay?
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should Al Franken receive back pay?
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Will he pay income tax on it?
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Will he pay income tax on it?
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He should certainly get retroactive seniority. No reason for him to have less seniority than Burris.
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Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 30, 2009, 09:50:31 pm
He should certainly get retroactive seniority. No reason for him to have less seniority than Burris.
That and my answer's yes. He should not suffer because Norm Coleman is a stupid weasel.
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No. Nor should have Coleman received back pay in the unlikely event he had prevailed in his effort.
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Quote from: Ernest on July 01, 2009, 12:57:26 am
No. Nor should have Coleman received back pay in the unlikely event he had prevailed in his effort.
I actually agree. He hasn't been "hired" yet, so to speak, and thus isn't owed back pay.
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for stealing an election?
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Quote from: Coburn In 2012 on July 02, 2009, 02:33:41 pm
for stealing an election?
Precisely, isn't that worthy of your admiration?
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Selected, not elected.
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
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Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 10:07:39 am
Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
Of course not silly!
Bush was a good Republican.
Franken is an eeeeevil librul!!!
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Quote from: px75 on July 03, 2009, 10:15:31 am
Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 10:07:39 am
Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
Of course not silly!
Bush was a good Republican.
Franken is an eeeeevil librul!!!
Oops, you're right, silly Franzl didn't think of that.
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Quote from: Coburn In 2012 on July 03, 2009, 09:41:00 am
Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
right
lol. Franken not only got more votes, his margin increased with each recount, and would almost certainly have increased if Coleman had won the court case.
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Re: should Al Franken receive back pay?
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Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 10:07:39 am
Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
I feel they should have recounted all of the ballots.
But didn't the news agencies do that anyway and showed Bush won?
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 05:34:23 pm
Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 10:07:39 am
Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:17:31 am
Selected, not elected.
Now, I disagree with your opinion on the Minnesota Senate election, but do you feel this way about Bush in 2000 as well?
I feel they should have recounted all of the ballots.
But didn't the news agencies do that anyway and showed Bush won?
Only using very specific conditions. A full statewide recount would have changed the winner most likely.
And even then we're only talking about the ballots that were cast. They didn't really reflect the will of the electorate.
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But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.
What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?
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Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 05:57:32 pm
But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.
What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?
They applied different standards in different counties for counting or throwing out ballots, there was no uniformity, so hence, there was some voter disenfranchisement.
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Re: should Al Franken receive back pay?
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 05:57:32 pm
But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.
What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?
They applied different standards in different counties for counting or throwing out ballots, there was no uniformity, so hence, there was some voter disenfranchisement.
Eight Minnesota judges in two different courts disagreed with that assesment.
None accepted it.
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 06:09:20 pm
Quote from: Senator Franzl on July 03, 2009, 05:57:32 pm
But alright...I don't want to argue about Florida in 2000.
What leads you to believe that the case in which the Republican won was legitimate, but where the liberal Democrat wins it's a "selection"?
They applied different standards in different counties for counting or throwing out ballots, there was no uniformity, so hence, there was some voter disenfranchisement.
says the Coleman campaign
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Can anyone please explain what makes Franken's victory illegitimate and why Coleman is clearly the real winner? (Please note that this question has absolutely nothing to do with the 2000 election so don't mention it in your reply.)
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Quote from: The Age of Octeen on July 03, 2009, 07:00:01 pm
Can anyone please explain what makes Franken's victory illegitimate and why Coleman is clearly the real winner? (Please note that this question has absolutely nothing to do with the 2000 election so don't mention it in your reply.)
Because Franken is a librul comedian whose presence will darken a chamber that otherwise can boast for the presence of such distinguished statesmen like David Vitter, James Inhoffe, Tom Coburn, Jeff Sessions and Jim Bunning.
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I never said Coleman was the winner. I would just like all of the ballots to be counted accurately.
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Quote from: RowanBrandon on July 03, 2009, 07:25:15 pm
I never said Coleman was the winner. I would just like all of the ballots to be counted accurately.
Good news! They were!
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