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« on: July 08, 2009, 02:06:18 AM »
« edited: July 08, 2009, 02:08:26 AM by MSG@LUC »

The real question to ask about the election in 60 is not who won but would you rather have had Nixon in charge during the Cuban missile crisis? In my opinion none of us would be here to argue over this if Nixon was, Nixon was a lot of things but calm and collective were not one of them. Unlike Kennedy who was able to backdown some of the more militant members of his cabinet Nixon would have let them have there wish. Nixon would most likely had similar militant segments in his cabinet as all presidents do. These generals, in Kennedy's cabinet, wanted a full scale invasion of Cuba which would had lead to WWIII.  Plus, we would not have had Adlai Stevenson IV as UN ambassador.  A truly unsung hero of those chaotic days.  Who stood down the Russians at the one of the most critical of points in our history.

In regards to the Florida debacles it is closed and done and needs only to be brought up as a lesson for all patriotic Americans.  The disenfranchisement of legitimate voters has no place in our republic. Katherine Harris is a deplorable person who got hers in that beat down she received against Bill Nelson.  My advice for what little it is worth is that anyone who fixate on the past is doomed to become obsessed with it. Ultimately, any obsession will destroy you it is better to learn from the past and make sure it does not happen again.

To the question originally posted, no he should not. Let alone the fact that he does not need the money.  However dubious the legal challenge put forth by Coleman's campaign the were within the letter of the law.  Hopefully Coleman pays electorally for the delay of the rightful winner by never being able to hold another public office in Minnesota. Still he was within his rights to put forth the legal challenge. 

Sorry if that too long but as my friends would all tell you i am a long winded person. It can be a good and bad thing.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 11:21:38 PM »

Thanks badger and @bleak. 

Ernest as i am sure you know the smallest of changes in the historical timeline would drastically alter present reality.  So, I am sure you are right had Nixon been elected a lot of different events would have taken place so, who knows whether we would have had the missile crisis. Still, we were far better off with Kennedy's victory over Nixon.  Both of whom proved this point during their times in office.
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 12:12:15 AM »

States,

First, did i say anywhere in that statement that democrats are free from the charge of disenfranchisement or voter intimidation.  The Florida case how ever is the most egregious as it changed the course of human events.  Most of the time when this happens there are repercussions in this case it was the deaths of thousands, the destruction of our economy, and the loss individual freedoms. All of which we can never get back, lives cant be replaced and freedoms once lost rarely ever return.  Also in my lifetime the cases of voter intimidation and disenfranchisement are seen more on the right than the left.  This does not excuse any of it for everyone of age should have the right to vote period!!!! Minnesota gets mad respect from me for their walk up registration. A valid id or proof of residency is all that should be required.  This is easy to verify with computers and can easily be done on the spot.

As to you question it takes five seconds to find evidence of it, thus look below for links(I'm sure you wont read them but thats ok.) Also the pastor who was profiled in the movie recount spoke at my school a few years back.  Sadly his name alludes me and my search came up empty.  His story was factual and i believe him a lot more than some random dude on the internet.  The pastor name was the same as a out of state felon thus when the witch from the south purged the voter rolls he was purged as well.  If that isn't disenfranchisement i don't know what is maybe you can explain the word to me for if it is not my poly sci profs must have failed me.

I don't know you or your track record but i have a feeling you will attack my statements, from what little i can detect you seem reactionary so have fun.  I don't really care if you do just try to come up with something more than your guys do it to so its okay we do.  That response is not kosher and is hyperbole in its real definition.

These are just three i have found in a few second of looking that seem to be spot on i am sure if i cared enough i could find hundreds more but either way tag you are it.

Links
www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch9.htm
sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Felon_disenfranchisement
www.thenation.com/doc/20010205/palast
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