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Countess Anya of the North Parish
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« on: July 03, 2009, 11:39:20 AM »

what do you think about the fact that filibusters do not have an effect on the senate anymore?
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2009, 11:41:15 AM »

Where did you get that idea?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 11:49:49 AM »

the fact that the Democrats got 60 votes. It will most likely continue that way. The bills will most likely go through with ease now.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2009, 11:52:07 AM »

Very unlikely...since when do the Democrats vote together on everything?

That's nonsense.
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2009, 11:52:50 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2009, 07:43:07 PM »

Neither party has complete unity, and the Democrats have less unity than the Republicans, so filibusters can still work.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 04:05:44 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 03:39:58 PM »

what do you think about the fact that filibusters do not have an effect on the senate anymore?


I think votes for cloture will probably be a little more successful than before, since there will be some bills that the leadership want to pass so badly they will either pressure their caucus or make deals with their junior members to pass.  But I don't think you can assume that no filibusters will be attempted.  Some will even work.  The technique may involve grassroots campaigns in the states with Democrat senators but whose electorate can be convinced that the Democrat leadership's ideas are wrong.  Louisiana, for example, or South Dakota.  It may also be that some Democrat senators genuinely disagree with their party leaders.  Ben Nelson, for example, often votes with Republicans on key issues.  As do Evan Bayh, Joseph Liebermann, and Claire McCaskill.  They might convince the two senators from Maine to join the Democrats from time to time, but it won't be easy.  And for changing rules a super-majority of senators (67 senators) is still used, so any attempted rule change stands the risk of being talked to death.
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