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« on: July 07, 2009, 03:47:25 PM »

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/07/ukraine_bans_filth/

Ukraine slaps ban on all porn

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Unless you're sick: Then it's OK

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Posted in Law, 7th July 2009 09:31 GMT

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Opinion Porn is now illegal in the Ukraine, unless used for medicinal purposes. Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko last week signed off on new legislation joining the Ukraine to an ever-lengthening list of countries that have decided to move the censorship goalposts over the last few years, from publication of porn on to simple possession of it.

Ironically, the world may have a bizarre coalition of puritan New Labour and evangeligising Americans to thank for this giant leap forward for moral mankind.

On June 11, the Verkhovna Rada (the Ukrainian parliament) made possession of pornography – not extreme porn, but ANY porn – a criminal offence. It will be punishable by a fine of 850 hryvnia - which our currency converter helpfully reveals is approximately 69 British pounds - or up to three years in prison. As in the UK, this is a significant shift in the law, which previously only concerned itself with those who produced or distributed pornography.

The problem with this legislation is that the only available definition of porn comes from 2003 legislation, which states, according to the English language version of the Kyev Times:

    "Pornography is vulgar, candid, cynical, obscene depiction of sexual acts, pursuing no other goal, the explicit demonstration of genitals, unethical elements of the sexual act, sexual perversions, realistic sketches that do not meet moral criteria and offend honour and dignity of the human by inciting low instincts."

It is not clear whether this is a literal translation of confused law – or an attack of "Babel-itis" on the part of that paper.

Meanwhile, Ukraine's Ministry of Justice appears to have complicated the legislation even further by conceding that porn may be retained "for medicinal purposes".

So is this all homegrown? Or is there a wider agenda at work here? Is it mere co-incidence that highly moralistic legislation – on porn and prostitution, for instance - appears to be springing up simultaneously in widely differing countries?

Researchers in the field of sexual relations have complained for some time that the Bush era meant it was impossible to pursue any research – even in the UK - that failed to address issues in ways that aligned with the fairly narrow moral agenda of US neo-conservatives.

Back in the UK, in May 2004, Labour MP David Lepper boasted in parliament of how he and a number of fellow MP’s, concerned by the Graham Coutts case, had put forward a five-point plan to Ministers for controlling extreme porn. The five points were:

    * Persuading internet service providers, search engine companies and web hosting companies to block access to extreme porn
    * Criminalising the possession of extreme porn
    * Better international co-operation in dealing with extreme images on the internet
    * A souped up role for Ofcom
    * Requiring credit card companies to put a financial squeeze on the providers of extreme images

This plan was received favourably by then Home Secretary, David Blunkett, who raised it in discussion with his counterparts in the United States. The same issues were then raised with countries in the G8 and Europe.

Whilst few countries have put in place all of the above measures, it almost certainly is no co-incidence that many have adopted several of them over the last few years, either following direct representation, or in an effort to curry favour with the West.

Ukrainian moralising may therefore be of a home grown variety, or it may just be the latest example of "me too" bandwagon-jumping. ®
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 03:51:33 PM »

     Disgusting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 04:00:14 PM »

I am missing something.  What the hell is the medical reason for porn?  Is it like medical marijuana?  Can only watch porn if you have cancer or glaucoma?
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2009, 04:00:23 PM »

That's pretty ridiculous, but I'd be any sum of money this law isn't going to be very strictly enforced (to put it mildly.)
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2009, 04:19:53 PM »

I am missing something.  What the hell is the medical reason for porn?  Is it like medical marijuana?  Can only watch porn if you have cancer or glaucoma?

I was blind but then they played the porno and I willed myself back to sight.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009, 04:28:35 PM »

sounds cool to me, as long as they don't take away my wife
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2009, 04:31:50 PM »

I am missing something.  What the hell is the medical reason for porn?  Is it like medical marijuana?  Can only watch porn if you have cancer or glaucoma?

Probably for like sperm banks or something.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 04:35:38 PM »

I am missing something.  What the hell is the medical reason for porn?  Is it like medical marijuana?  Can only watch porn if you have cancer or glaucoma?

Probably for like sperm banks or something.
I'm thinking that may be it, but the article actually says it is only alright if you are sick.  My other thought was possibly they mean that you can have naked people in textbooks
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 04:36:43 PM »

What about ED? Does that count as being sick?
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2009, 04:43:02 PM »

What about ED? Does that count as being sick?
But does porn really help that?  I always thought you legitimatley needed medicine
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 04:56:39 PM »

What about ED? Does that count as being sick?
But does porn really help that?  I always thought you legitimatley needed medicine

I don't know, they might use it in tests.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 04:57:02 PM »

Does "porn" include pictures of naked ladies?

How do they enforce this law?
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 05:23:34 PM »

Does "porn" include pictures of naked ladies?

That's one of the complaints on it, the law is rather vague and unclear.


Most likely they won't.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2009, 05:36:10 PM »

I want to see them enforce it. It would be hilarious.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 12:15:04 AM »

Poor Ukraine, it all looked so hopeful in winter '04/'05.
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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 12:41:26 AM »

Does "porn" include pictures of naked ladies?

That's one of the complaints on it, the law is rather vague and unclear.

I am truly shocked shocked shocked that a law written by a bunch of crazies is vague and unclear.
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 03:16:19 AM »

I'm guessing medical purposes could have something to do with sexual therapy or possibly pedophilia or something like that.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 03:40:22 AM »

Ukraine is a major producer of internet porn and of the women in it. Uh oh... there goes our supply!

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Poor Ukraine, it all looked so hopeful in winter '04/'05.
Hardly. It started to look possible that Ukraine would not survive the decade.
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 03:48:04 AM »

Ukraine is a major producer of internet porn and of the women in it. Uh oh... there goes our supply!

No more Nikki Benz? Damn you Ukraine! Damn you! You will feel the wrath our almighty American war cocks down your throat unless you stop this moral f****try!
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