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« on: July 08, 2009, 11:18:03 PM »

Option 1 but I've heard people argue for the other option before.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 11:19:48 PM »

Depends on ones definition of "liberal" and "libertarian".  He clearly wasn't your typical American "liberal".
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 01:10:10 AM »

probably anarchist...so libertarian.  he was way too cynical of everything to be a good liberal
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 01:17:59 AM »

Damn it!  Anarchist doesn't equal libertarian!  I want police, courts and a military thankyouverymuch.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 01:25:19 AM »

probably anarchist...so libertarian.  he was way too cynical of everything to be a good liberal

Anarchist? The guy basically loved George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 01:43:03 AM »

Of course he did, he hated the Vietnam War didn't he?

Damn it!  Anarchist doesn't equal libertarian!  I want police, courts and a military thankyouverymuch.

anarchist ... well, I really meant "anti- The Man"
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 04:30:07 AM »

Yeah, but he also seems to have strongly agreed with most of their economic and social policies. Read Fear and Loathing: On the Campaign Trail '72.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2009, 04:32:54 AM »

I've read it.  Maybe he's a bit of a personal anarchist while ideologically Democratic, so "liberal" could be right. 

He certainly didn't show much care for laws or authority throughout his life and he did like guns I think. 
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2009, 04:40:25 AM »

He loved guns, like all good hearted people.
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2009, 04:55:29 AM »

He loved guns, like all good hearted people.

Yet he didn't seem to care very much at all about ''bans'' on them from what I've read.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2009, 05:11:37 AM »

Wasn't he a fan of Che Guevara?

Lunar's right that he was very anti-authority, but I don't think that necessarily translated for him (or for many American liberals, actually) into being anti-government intervention in the economy.
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2009, 06:38:24 AM »

I'll just note that I don't think he considered himself to be a liberal or a libertarian. I'm sure he wouldn't like either label being placed on him but I still think he fell left of center on the vast majority of issues.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2009, 11:43:09 AM »

he was too bright to fit into any retarded label that we throw around.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2009, 12:04:47 PM »

he was too bright to fit into any retarded label that we throw around.

This.

Personally I think alot of his admiration for McCarthy and McGovern was due to what he felt was their 'humanness' and their perceived decency and that they weren't typical politicians.. and were against Nixon. But I don't think HST was particularly interested in politics-as-ideology. He greatly admired 60s San Fransisco hippies after all. Politics was a blood sport he watched for entertainment in large part. Same as most of us.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2009, 01:07:35 PM »

Damn it!  Anarchist doesn't equal libertarian!  I want police, courts and a military thankyouverymuch.

That doesn't mean you have to be a big cheerleader for them. I thought it was rather ridiculous seeing a "Libertarian" defend police brutality.
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2009, 12:21:06 AM »

Left-libertarian, very vaguely; probably distributivist, and certainly not your orthodox free-market radical. He's therefore much more interesting, politically speaking, than run-of-the-mill libertarians.
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2009, 12:21:47 AM »

probably anarchist...so libertarian.  he was way too cynical of everything to be a good liberal

Anarchist? The guy basically loved George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy.

I love George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2009, 12:51:29 AM »

Thompson was generally apathetic regarding economic issues; Fear and Loathing has very little commentary about them, esp. other than as strictly relates to campaign stylistics.  He was genuinely passionate about social and cultural liberalization, though, it seems.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2009, 01:34:07 AM »

probably anarchist...so libertarian.  he was way too cynical of everything to be a good liberal

Anarchist? The guy basically loved George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy.

I love George McGovern and Eugene McCarthy.

So do I.
Abortion, Amnesty, and Acid would've sold any hardcore libertarian.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2009, 01:38:05 AM »

Left-libertarian, very vaguely; probably distributivist, and certainly not your orthodox free-market radical. He's therefore much more interesting, politically speaking, than run-of-the-mill libertarians.

Also agree on this point.
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« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 12:40:42 PM »

He was an anarchist and anti-authoritarian, and he loved his guns and drugs, but he was a liberal. Just an extremely cynical one. Remember that he was friends with George McGovern and John Kerry, and endorsed Kerry for President in 2004.
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« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2014, 03:11:54 PM »

He was a decided far left liberal who loved guns but did not care very much for gun culture. Anti-corporatism is laced all through his work, most especially The Rum Diary (which is brilliantly funny) and his critique of capitalism in Las Vegas (probably the book I've read the most times) leaves no doubt that he was NO Libertarian. He also repeatedly despises "high rollers." It's possible to argue in his later years that he kind of "sold out" and accepted that he had become a kind of brand, but he was no Libertarian. He viewed capitalism without restraint as a clear form of outright degeneracy.

He was also a perfect example of a person who existed at the zone where madman and genius intersect.
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« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2014, 03:14:18 PM »

A bada**terian.
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« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2014, 04:17:21 PM »

he was no Libertarian. He viewed capitalism... as a clear form of outright degeneracy.

So do Actually Existing Libertarians.
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« Reply #24 on: April 20, 2014, 07:23:53 PM »

he was no Libertarian. He viewed capitalism... as a clear form of outright degeneracy.

So do Actually Existing Libertarians.

By Actually Existing Libertarians, I assume you are referring to actual libertarians, i.e. class struggle anarchists or anarcho-syndicalists, or any variety or shade of anarchism that tinges the black with the red?
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