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« on: July 10, 2009, 07:06:08 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 02:52:43 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 03:51:23 AM »

My motives, with the first 3 really important:

- A braking and "conservative" behaviour inside EU institutions (Gonzalez time is long gone): the major disappointment, I think.

- Bad management of the economics and public finances: Aznar wasn't better, granted, but no one tried to smooth the big housing and financial bubbles and not even the Partido Socialista Obrero Espanol since the mid-2000s. Spain's economy is currently among the worst with Latvia, Ireland, Portugal and Hungary.

- Inconsistency on regional and nationalities issues (Basques, Catalunia): a more surprising disappointment.

- Gesticulation on social and moral issues, which has hidden bad economic management: a bad habit of South European socialists (France, Greece, Portugal, Spain), as they believe they are so able to be viewed as really progressive, even if they let the economy behave as it can.

- After Aznar's harsh policy, Zapatero's one towards immigration wasn't better: just take in whoever wants to come: no problem in big growth times, a big issue now with the creation of a lumpen-proletariate that the government is unable to protect (not an important motive to oust him, though, as no leader and no party have a real and fine solution).
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2009, 04:20:53 AM »

OMG, Merkel and Rudd are among my top 5...
What to do about it ?

Xanana Gusmao.

Can't we say he is no longer the Saviour ?
He's a bit of a disappointment (bribes, persistant unrest, tricks to take advantage of location near to Australia), even if, granted, Indonesia hasn't helped...
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2009, 04:23:36 AM »

Does my vote for Gusmao please Hughento ?

That is the question !
Key must be one of the 3 but who are the other 2 ? Vasquez ? Cvetkovic ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 01:07:06 PM »

Cvetkovic

At this stage, we eliminate quite good leaders, can't do otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2009, 04:54:38 PM »
« Edited: July 13, 2009, 05:34:42 PM by big bad fab »

Serbophobia is voting for the Serb leader in round... 53 ??

I wouldn't say Francophobia consists in ousting Sarkozy and/or ousting him very early Smiley , but maybe I'm wrong Cheesy !
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2009, 05:03:37 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2009, 01:17:47 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 03:39:04 AM »

Xanana Gusmao
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 01:44:56 AM »

You vote Tusk... Really, I don't regret any longer to have ousted Obama and Bachelet...
Tusk has made it possible for Poland to get rid of one Kaczynski. And he is the more decent leader for a very long time.
You vote Tusk and John Key is still here... OMG, back to stupid thing !

I vote for Amadou Toumani Toure.

He may be the so-called "soldier of democracy", but, well, Mali hasn't really made big way forward, even with him.
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 03:51:05 PM »

You vote Tusk... Really, I don't regret any longer to have ousted Obama and Bachelet...
Tusk has made it possible for Poland to get rid of one Kaczynski. And he is the more decent leader for a very long time.
You vote Tusk and John Key is still here... OMG, back to stupid thing !

I vote for Amadou Toumani Toure.

He may be the so-called "soldier of democracy", but, well, Mali hasn't really made big way forward, even with him.

Nothing iritate me more than "Kaczyński or Tusk" and "Tusk or Kaczyński".

Sure, the twins were much more harmful, but I'm not pleased with Tusk either, who's not decens, just less controversial.

TUSK!

That's just that we vote for World Leaders, so, from an international viewpoint, Tusk is a good thing.

But, anyway, many leftists will be glad to know that, with Rudd, Merkel and Tusk out, my top 3 is about to be eliminated. Sad
The One is avenged.
So, some of you can relax know: the job is done. You can turn back to less "systematic" picks Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 03:55:26 PM »

Mmmm...
Should I PM again ? Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 03:03:36 AM »


That was a joke: I've promised not to do it again.
But it was to show that I haven't been the only one to PM, as we've got non-usual voters.
And to show how votes can be in protest against someone, not against other votes Wink
No problem with all that. Just a game.

On another subject, I would be interested in knowing what the problem is with Stoltenberg, apart from the fact that the end is close now and we have to eliminate even good guys.
Thnaks in advance !
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 05:59:00 AM »

Xanana Gusmao
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2009, 05:33:53 PM »

Just a small advertisement (Hughento will excuse me for it, I'm sure...or not ? Wink ) for the Survivor I start in the History board, on Soviet and Central and East European Leaders of the Cold War:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=99726.0

At least, there won't be problems of right and left in here !
Oh wait, maybe... Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2009, 07:46:27 AM »

Amadou Toumani Toure

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2009, 05:11:27 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2009, 06:56:05 PM by big bad fab »

No, no, no, we are still in round 59 and you've voted Amadou Toumani Touré.
Let's wait for some hours and we'll be able to go after Xanana Gusmao if you want Cheesy


BTW, vote is open in my Cold War Survivor on Soviet and East European Leaders (History board). Come & vote !
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2009, 06:57:48 PM »

That's what I call "twisting the knife in the wound" ! Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2009, 11:20:09 AM »

Xanana Gusmao
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2009, 04:13:00 PM »

Stoltenberg

OK for Tarja next round, as she's powerless and kind of a Kekkonen, minus the "grand old dad" kindness...
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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2009, 04:14:12 PM »

But Johnson-Sirleaf is also tempting....
So, for the round after the next one Smiley
Or vice-versa Wink
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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2009, 07:41:33 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2009, 04:23:09 PM »

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2009, 04:38:56 PM »

Sigursdardottir

Oh, and don't forget to vote in Kalwejt's Brazilian presidential survivor: the current round may be surprising ! Wink

And, of course, my Soviet and "sister" party leaders survivor is always on (in History board) Smiley
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