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Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Will Obama lose Michigan?
Only if Romney is the nominee
7 (10.6%)
He will get owned
3 (4.5%)
Michigan is Democrat now and forever
37 (56.1%)
It'll be close
19 (28.8%)
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Topic: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan? (Read 4541 times)
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #50 on:
July 21, 2009, 03:10:13 pm »
Well, Romney did manage to win the primary in Michigan, although no doubt that was helped as much or more by the fact that Michigan Republican politics are dominated by corporatists as by the Romney name.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #51 on:
July 23, 2009, 05:09:01 am »
Quote from: MagneticFree on July 19, 2009, 07:12:27 pm
People might as well live in a 3rd world country if they're going to vote for Obama again and see their state fail even more.
Does that statement have a tinge of racism? Obama didn't need African ancestry to be the sort of leader that we have. For real decay of America, Americans might have the chance to get Dubya's ideology on steroids in 2012, if without the overt kleptocracy.
If you want a more relevant comparison, Dubya = Ferdinanad Marcos.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #52 on:
July 23, 2009, 07:28:00 am »
Quote from: pbrower2a on July 23, 2009, 05:09:01 am
Quote from: MagneticFree on July 19, 2009, 07:12:27 pm
People might as well live in a 3rd world country if they're going to vote for Obama again and see their state fail even more.
Does that statement have a tinge of racism? Obama didn't need African ancestry to be the sort of leader that we have. For real decay of America, Americans might have the chance to get Dubya's ideology on steroids in 2012, if without the overt kleptocracy.
If you want a more relevant comparison, Dubya = Ferdinanad Marcos.
Racism? There you go with race again, I like how you have to bring up race into a topic.
I basically said that Michigan's economy is in the dumps, and I think Obama's programs probably wouldn't help them out alot.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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This may be one of the worst threads ever.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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July 23, 2009, 12:50:19 pm »
Yeah, this is a total turdfest.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #55 on:
July 23, 2009, 02:15:42 pm »
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 12:50:19 pm
Yeah, this is a total turdfest.
I am pleased with your response. On two levels.
First, I agree.
Second, the word "turd" is not incorporated into general conversation nearly enough to keep me entertained.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #56 on:
July 23, 2009, 02:53:42 pm »
Quote from: JSojourner on July 23, 2009, 02:15:42 pm
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 12:50:19 pm
Yeah, this is a total turdfest.
I am pleased with your response. On two levels.
First, I agree.
Second, the word "turd" is not incorporated into general conversation nearly enough to keep me entertained.
Happy?
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm »
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #58 on:
July 24, 2009, 12:16:01 am »
Michigan is not a swing state, but it is not part of the National Democratic Base. Meaning that a Republican should only campaign in Michigan if he wants to finish off the Democratic Party until he royally screws up.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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July 24, 2009, 12:18:49 am »
Quote from: Eraserhead on July 23, 2009, 12:29:31 pm
This may be one of the worst threads ever.
Ditto
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #60 on:
July 24, 2009, 12:33:18 am »
Quote from: Senator Marokai Blue on July 24, 2009, 12:18:49 am
Quote from: Eraserhead on July 23, 2009, 12:29:31 pm
This may be one of the worst threads ever.
Ditto
ehh....I guess you could get out of this short bus is the fact that Georgia and Michigan have about the same chance of flipping in 2012...which I guess has about a 10% chance of happening....combined.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
Inks, dude, it was not even
remotely
close in 2008. Why would thinking probably it won't be close in 2012 either make someone an idiot? Obviously, the poll options are just worded like that for dramatic effect, we all know what they really mean.
This thread has some of the most far-out analysis that I've ever seen...
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Quote from: BushKenya on June 04, 2013, 08:07:16 pm
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #62 on:
July 24, 2009, 09:04:25 am »
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 02:53:42 pm
Quote from: JSojourner on July 23, 2009, 02:15:42 pm
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 12:50:19 pm
Yeah, this is a total turdfest.
I am pleased with your response. On two levels.
First, I agree.
Second, the word "turd" is not incorporated into general conversation nearly enough to keep me entertained.
Happy?
Yes. Very.
It's a funny name.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #63 on:
July 24, 2009, 12:16:23 pm »
Quote from: JSojourner on July 24, 2009, 09:04:25 am
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 02:53:42 pm
Quote from: JSojourner on July 23, 2009, 02:15:42 pm
Quote from: Xahar on July 23, 2009, 12:50:19 pm
Yeah, this is a total turdfest.
I am pleased with your response. On two levels.
First, I agree.
Second, the word "turd" is not incorporated into general conversation nearly enough to keep me entertained.
Happy?
Yes. Very.
It's a funny name.
turd turd turd turd turd
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
The alternatives that you didn't offer included:
"Michigan is so strongly Democratic that Obama would have to foul up badly to lose it in 2012"
"The GOP has a bigger chance of dying or becoming irrelevant than of carrying Michigan before 2020"
"The GOP will have to clean up its act before it stands a chance in Michigan".
"Michigan will lean strongly Democratic for a long time"
This poll offered what logicians call a false dichotomy -- and leaving more poor options makes the fallacy no less blatant.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #65 on:
July 25, 2009, 12:16:42 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on July 24, 2009, 02:52:59 am
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
Inks, dude, it was not even
remotely
close in 2008. Why would thinking probably it won't be close in 2012 either make someone an idiot? Obviously, the poll options are just worded like that for dramatic effect, we all know what they really mean.
This thread has some of the most far-out analysis that I've ever seen...
I guess it's true that the poll answers are pretty crappy (now that I looked at them again), but there certainly are people on this forum who truly believe that MI will vote Dem now and forever.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #66 on:
July 25, 2009, 02:47:51 pm »
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 25, 2009, 12:16:42 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on July 24, 2009, 02:52:59 am
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
Inks, dude, it was not even
remotely
close in 2008. Why would thinking probably it won't be close in 2012 either make someone an idiot? Obviously, the poll options are just worded like that for dramatic effect, we all know what they really mean.
This thread has some of the most far-out analysis that I've ever seen...
I guess it's true that the poll answers are pretty crappy (now that I looked at them again), but there certainly are people on this forum who truly believe that MI will vote Dem now and forever.
No, I said that for exageration.
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Re: Does Obama stand a chance in Michigan?
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Reply #67 on:
July 25, 2009, 03:06:38 pm »
Quote from: electoraljew2 on July 25, 2009, 02:47:51 pm
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 25, 2009, 12:16:42 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on July 24, 2009, 02:52:59 am
Quote from: Governor, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Judge, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 23, 2009, 08:56:51 pm
It'll be close. Anybody who voted for options 2 or 3 is an idiot.
Inks, dude, it was not even
remotely
close in 2008. Why would thinking probably it won't be close in 2012 either make someone an idiot? Obviously, the poll options are just worded like that for dramatic effect, we all know what they really mean.
This thread has some of the most far-out analysis that I've ever seen...
I guess it's true that the poll answers are pretty crappy (now that I looked at them again), but there certainly are people on this forum who truly believe that MI will vote Dem now and forever.
No, I said that for exageration.
I wasn't referencing you - I was just referencing people on the forum in general.
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