Strawman Thread

[JohnFKennedy]

I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.

Given that no two events are ever the same - in economics or any other aspect of history - how can any argument not be based on some sort of theory? Do you honestly think your own beliefs are grounded solely in 'fact'?

[Хahar 🤔]

I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.

Given that no two events are ever the same - in economics or any other aspect of history - how can any argument not be based on some sort of theory? Do you honestly think your own beliefs are grounded solely in 'fact'?

He holds his views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances.

[Franzl]

He holds his views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances.

But then faulted realisticidealist for using "theory" instead of "practice".

[k-onmmunist]

I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

[Franzl]

I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.

[k-onmmunist]

I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.

No, I was simply making an argument. One which he hasn't replied to.

[Franzl]

I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.

No, I was simply making an argument. One which he hasn't replied to.

Forgive me, but I didn't see an "argument" anywhere.

[Vepres]

I'm probably the fourth or fifth most libertarian person, if not in the top three, active in fantasy politics.

wow


lol

Yeah, Vepres idea of libertarianism is "I don't have to stand up for what I say I believe in when the chips fall and my political friends are circling the wagons against it."

[Хahar 🤔]

No no no, it's all Israel's fault that racist Muslims (note I didn't say or suggest all or even most Muslims were racists) kill Americans because we support Israel.  It makes perfect sense.  Just like it was England's fault when racist Germans killed Americans before we entered WWII because we supported England at the time.


GODWIN'd!

[segwaystyle2012]

Lol at Vepres' post above.

[Хahar 🤔]

Very true! Noted foreign policy experts Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck agree with you.

More like noted foreign policy experts like Charles Krautheimer, Robert Kagan and Mark Steyn, among others.

But it's always just those no-do-gooders Sarah Palin and Glen Beck who notice Obama's faults.  Or those who do are just racists.

[Хahar 🤔]

Yeah, citing Krauthammer is going of the deep end.

We must always support Obama and his policies lest we go off the deep end!

[dead0man]

Small government!

[Хahar 🤔]

The idea that Libertas cares about freedom is as absurd as saying that any of the Dixiecrats who filibustered the 1964 Act cared about freedom.  It's BS, designed to not make him appear to be the racist that he is.

Yeah, just like how anybody who doesn't support Israel is antisemitic.  Hurr

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

[Shilly]

The idea that Libertas cares about freedom is as absurd as saying that any of the Dixiecrats who filibustered the 1964 Act cared about freedom.  It's BS, designed to not make him appear to be the racist that he is.

Yeah, just like how anybody who doesn't support Israel is antisemitic.  Hurr

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

His posts are grating in general.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

I assume it is Morgan, and not I, that is getting the "credit" for this?

[Хahar 🤔]

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

I assume it is Morgan, and not I, that is getting the "credit" for this?

Yeah.

[Badger]

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The GOP better primary these pieces of sh**t if they expect to be taken seriously as a party of fiscal sanity rather than being bankster puppets like Dodd.

That might make an ounce of sense if the banks weren't fighting this reform like all hell.

One more reason giant corporations would fear a Libertarian government just like Brer Rabbit fears getting thrown into the briar patch.

LOL!

The whole point of this bill is to further empower the banks and the Fed to manipulate our economy.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

You might as well just post this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=3575;sa=showPosts

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

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The GOP better primary these pieces of sh**t if they expect to be taken seriously as a party of fiscal sanity rather than being bankster puppets like Dodd.

That might make an ounce of sense if the banks weren't fighting this reform like all hell.

One more reason giant corporations would fear a Libertarian government just like Brer Rabbit fears getting thrown into the briar patch.

LOL!

The whole point of this bill is to further empower the banks and the Fed to manipulate our economy.

You find humor in the truth?

[Vepres]

So, Rand has picked on black people, the disabled... Has he attacked the gays yet? That's still a winning strategy in Kentucky.

There's no federal pretection of gays to protest. Maybe he could attack women's sufferage...or demand that the descendants of slaveowners be repaid the value of their slaves because they were unjustly taken away by the evil federal government.

[Хahar 🤔]

Free speech only applies to my viewpoint!  I think all media should be government-controlled, so that only my viewpoint can be expressed on television!

[tpfkaw]

It's not a strawman if it's true.

I don't think anyone is suggesting Fox News be shut down (probably unconstitutional anyway, and since cable bandwidth is unlimited, it is immune from a Dem fairness doctrine attack anyway). I actually think there is some value in having an assortment of hyper partisan media. So why don't we just stipulate that Fox News is an RNC partisan shill operation and move on?

The problem is that under the current system ('private' ownership of media) only right-wing viewpoints can be heard.  If the media is entirely owned by the ruling class we will never hear any representation of the opinions or interests of the masses (except of course as those opinions benefit the rulers).

In other words the problem is the entire system, in which 'freedom of speech' is impossible, not just FOX news.

[Lief 🗽]

Do you know what the definition of a straw man argument is?

[tpfkaw]

Yes, I know what a strawman is.  A strawman is when one presents a completely different, and easier to attack, position from the one that someone is arguing.  For example, if I had posted that and the thread had merely been an argument over whether or not Fox News/the media in general has a political bias, then it would be a strawman.  However, since I was simply rephrasing the exact same position that someone was taking, it's not a strawman.  Parody, yes, strawman, no.