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« on: July 22, 2009, 12:51:56 AM »

Post your hopeful Presidential results In the past or future (Also you can include swings, trends and also primaries)


2000:



2004:



2008 Primaries:



Clinton 54%
Obama 43%


2008:

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2009, 06:35:45 PM »
« Edited: July 22, 2009, 10:34:04 PM by Mechman »

I'm going to be a hack!
Let's take it waaaay back to 1840:

1840:


Martin Van Buren (NY)/Richard Johnson (KY) (Democratic) 167 evs
William H. Harrison (OH)/John Tyler (VA) (Whig) 127 evs
Hate those damned Whigs. Plus, for some reason I like Van Buren.

1844:


James K. Polk (TN)/George M. Dallas (PA) (Democratic) 222 evs
Henry Clay (KY)/Theodore Frelinghuysen (NJ) (Whig) 53 evs
Again those damned Whigs.

1848:


Lewis Cass (MI)/William O. Butler (KY) (Democratic) 133 evs
Zachary Taylor (LA)/Millaird Fillmore (NY) (Whig) 73 evs
Martin Van Buren (NY)/Charels F. Adams (MA) (Free Soil) 84 evs
Goes to Congress. Lewis Cass is elected president.

1852:


Franklin Pierce (NH)/William King (AL) (Democratic) 172 evs
Winfield Scott (NJ)/William Graham (NC) (Whig) 124 evs
Don't really like the Whigs, but I probably would've liked to have seen a strong last hurrah from them.

1856:


James Buchanan (PA)/John Breckenridge (KY) (Democratic) 129 evs
John Fremont (CA)/William Dayton (NJ) (Republican) 129 evs
Milliard Fillmore (NY)/Andrew Donelson (TN) (Know Nothing) 38 evs
I think an exact electoral tie would've been insane, which is why I would like this to happen. Somehow Congress divides by zero and Fremont is elected Smiley

1860:


Abraham Lincoln (IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (ME) (Republican) 176 evs
John Breckinridge (KY)/Joseph Lane (OR) (Southern Democrat) 55 evs
John Bell (TN)/Edward Everett (MA) (Constitutional Union) 53 evs
Stephen Douglas (IL)/Herschel Johnson (GA) (Democratic) 19 evs
Like Lincoln win, but this could've been a little bit more competitive, expecially for poor Stephen Douglas.

1864:

Abraham Lincoln (IL)/Andrew Johnson (TN) (National Union) 148 evs
George McClellan (NJ)/George Pendelton (OH) (Democratic) 85 evs
Same reasoning as 1860.

1868:

Horatio Seymour (NY)/Francis Blair Jr. (MO) (Democratic) 152 evs
Ulysses S. Grant (IL)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 142 evs
I had mixed feelings for both tickets, but Reconstruction kind of makes me sick to the stomach.

1872:


Horace Greeley (NY)/Benjamin Gratz Brown (MO) (Liberal Republican/Democratic) 177 evs
Ulysses S. Grant (IL)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 175 evs
Once again, Reconstruction.

1876:


Samuel J. Tilden (NY)/Thomas Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 302 evs
Rutherford Hayes (OH)/William Wheeler (NY) (Republican) 67 evs
I'd be pulling for the Bourbon Democrat Samuel Tilden to score a landslide victory
Yes I did change this.

1880:


James Garfield (OH)/Chester Arthur (NY) (Republican) 241 evs
Winfield Hancock (PA)/William English (IN) (Democratic) 128 evs
Republicans would grow on me when I get disgusted with Southern Democrats and their unfair voting laws.

That's it for now. I'll try to get 1884-1948 up tonight.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2009, 08:03:33 PM »

I shall go back before I was born, when the misery of our times first began.

1968



1972



1976- What sucks about this is that Carter is a very cool guy...but still...Ford was a very nice man, too.


1980-



1984-


1988-



1992-




1996- Clinton outlived his usefulness


2000-


2004-


2008-


2012-
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2009, 10:24:13 PM »

1884:


Grover Cleveland (NY)/Thomas Hendricks (IN) (Democratic) 303 evs
James Blaine (ME)/John Logan (IL) (Republican) 98 evs
Unwarranted Cleveland fanboyism on my part. Plus Republican fatigue on the general populace would make me speculate a landslide victory.

1888:


Grover Cleveland (NY)/Allen Thurman (OH) (Democratic) 254 evs
Benjamin Harrison (IN)/Levi Morton (NY) (Republican) 147 evs
I would think Cleveland would be able to pull off a comfortable re-election (ev wise) with a close popular vote margin due to third party presence. Sadly the opposite would happen.

1892:


Grover Cleveland (NY)/Adlai Stevenson (IL) (Democratic) 328 evs
Benjamin Harrison (IN)/Whitelaw Reid (NY) (Republican) 78 evs
James Weaver (IA)/James Field (VA) (Populist) 38 evs
I would expect a strong showing from the Populist ticket that would help Cleveland achieve a landslide victory.

1896:


William McKinley (OH)/Garret Hobart (NJ) (Republican) 308 evs
William J. Bryan (NB)/Arthur Sewall (GA) (Democratic) 139 evs
Be hoping for a strong National Democratic presence to punish the Democrats with a very comfortable McKinley victory.

1900:


William McKinley (OH)/Theodore Roosevelt (NY) (Republican) 308 evs
William J. Bryan (NB)/Adlai Stevenson (IL) (Democratic) 139 evs
Be ticked off that the Democrats still didn't learn their lesson and hope for another very comfortable McKinley victory. Weird how this turned out to be the exact same ev result as the last one!

1904:


Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Charles Fairbanks (IN) (Republican) 317 evs
Alton B. Parker (NY)/Henry Davis (WV) (Democratic) 159 evs
I would like both candidates alot and accept that Roosevelt would win a comfortable victory. However, the Bourbon Democrat inside me would root for Alton Parker.

1908:


William Howard Taft (OH)/James Sherman (NY) (Republican) 363 evs
William J. Bryan (NB)/John Kern (IN) (Democratic) 120 evs
I'd be flaming mad at the Dems for once again nominating douchebag Bryan for the nominee and be wishing them an epic landslide loss at the hands of Taft.

I'll do 1912 and onward in a little bit.
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2009, 10:48:35 PM »

1908:




1976:




1992:




2008:



I'm sure there are others I would change, but these are the ones that get me saying, that guy would have done great if he won (except McCain who would be ok, but I hate Obama's policies more).
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 10:57:49 PM »

1908:




1976:




1992:




2008:



I'm sure there are others I would change, but these are the ones that get me saying, that guy would have done great if he won (except McCain who would be ok, but I hate Obama's policies more).

Yeah. Ford would have been a great president had he been allowed to serve a whole term. His politics were very reasonable and he was a moral man...and if things still went to sh**t, people wouldn't mess their pants for Reagan.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 12:14:47 AM »

1912:


Woodrow Wilson (NJ)/Thomas Marshall (IN) (Democratic) 317 evs
William H. Taft (OH)/Nicholas Butler (NY) (Republican) 52 evs
Theodore Roosevelt (CA)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) 162 evs
I'd pray that Taft and Roosevelt give Wilson a hell of a fight.

1916:


Charles Hughes (NY)/Charles Fairbanks (IN) (Republican) 352 evs
Woodrow Wilson (NJ)/Thomas Marshall (IN) (Democratic) 179 evs
I'd be hoping that people would be turned off by Wilson's obnoxious racism and pro-segregation in the federal government stances and his hypocripsy towards "neutrality" during war.

1920:


Warren G. Harding (OH)/Calvin Coolidge (MA) (Republican) 438 evs
James M. Cox (OH)/Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY) (Democratic) 93 evs
I would expect this election to be an epic bitch slap to the Democrats after many years of fail under Truman.

1924:


Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Charles Dawes (IL) (Republican) 404 evs
John Davis (WV)/Charles Bryan (NB) (Democratic) 114 evs
Robert M. LaFollette (WI)/Burton Wheeler (MT) (Progressive) 13 evs
Pretty similar to IRL, except Coolidge manages to get Oklahoma and Tennessee.

1928:


Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) 479 evs
Al Smith (NY)/Joseph Robinson (AR) (Democratic) 52 evs
Wouldn't really care about this one, but I would expect the one of the largest landslides ever in history to occur (helped by 8 years of Republican dominance). I would be shocked that Smith somehow manages to win Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

1932:
I really wouldn't care at all about this next one, but just for the sake of this thread I'll root for Herbert Hoover.


Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY)/John Nance Garner (TX) (Democratic) 413 evs
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) 118 evs
Pretty much if I did root for Hoover I would accept the rape from Roosevelt but would hope Hoover would score a few states like Ohio or New Jersey.

1936:


Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY)/John Nance Garner (TX) (Democratic) 402 evs
Alf Landon (KS)/Frank Knox (IL) (Republican) 129 evs
As much as I'd be rooting for Landon, I'd already accept the massive inevitable rapage of Roosevelt. I would hope for maybe a hundred or so votes, but anything even remotely approaching win is impossible.

1940:


Wendell Wilkie (NY)/Charles McNary (OR) (Republican) 306 evs
Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Democratic) 225 evs
I would pray that the idea of a third term of the god king Roosevelt would turn enough people off to get Wilkie elected.

1944:


Thomas Dewey (NY)/John Bricker (OH) (Republican) 320 evs
Franklin D. Roosevelt (NY)/Harry Truman (MO) (Democratic) 211 evs
After three terms of Roosevelt, I'd be desperately hoping Dewey could score a huge one.

1948:


Thomas Dewey (NY)/Earl Warren (CA) (Republican) 317 electoral votes
Harry Truman (MO)/Alben Barkley (KY) (Democratic) 176 electoral votes
Strom Thurmond (SC)/Fielding Wright (MS) (State's Rights) 38 electoral votes
With two strong third party tickets threatening Truman? Two words:
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 08:31:21 AM »

1912 :



Roosevelt : 290
Wilson : 230
Taft : 11


1948 :



Wallace : 286
Truman : 171
Dewey : 74
Thurmond : 0


1968 :



Humphrey : 330
Nixon : 181
Wallace : 27


1972 ( Cheesy ) :



McGovern : 477
Nixon : 61


1984 ( Cheesy ) :



Mondale : 521
Reagan : 17


2000 :



Gore : 300
Bush : 228


2004 :



Kerry : 461
Bush : 77


2008 :



Obama : 506
McCain : 32
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 09:31:42 AM »

2008:



D 398
R 140

2000:



D 324
R 214

1912



P 267
D 217
R 47

1924... by a fluke of the Gods!



P 294
D 218
R 19


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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2009, 09:38:34 AM »



2004
John Edwards/John Kerry v. GW Bush/Dick Cheney
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2009, 09:41:41 AM »



1916

Hughes defeat Wilson
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 11:16:23 AM »

1872:


Horace Greeley (NY)/Benjamin Gratz Brown (MO) (Liberal Republican/Democratic) 177 evs
Ulysses S. Grant (IL)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 175 evs
Once again, Reconstruction.

This result would have been disastrous for the country. Greeley died between Election Day and the meeting of the Electoral College, and things would have gone crazy had he won.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 11:35:07 AM »
« Edited: July 23, 2009, 11:37:17 AM by Mechman »

1872:


Horace Greeley (NY)/Benjamin Gratz Brown (MO) (Liberal Republican/Democratic) 177 evs
Ulysses S. Grant (IL)/Schuyler Colfax (IN) (Republican) 175 evs
Once again, Reconstruction.

This result would have been disastrous for the country. Greeley died between Election Day and the meeting of the Electoral College, and things would have gone crazy had he won.

Yes I know, and the result would've been a presidency under Benjamin Gratz Brown, a Liberal Republican who opposed the Emancipation Proclamation not because he liked slavery but because it didn't free slaves in Union border states. His presidency would've been a lot more merciful on the South than Radical Republican Ulysses S. Grant. But no, the South was evil and should pay for it's sins, heaven forbid somebody show them mercy! Because military governments apparently aren't crazy........
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2009, 12:36:22 PM »

2008- McCain 273 Obama 265

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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2009, 01:09:07 PM »

2004-


2008-


2012-
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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2009, 01:44:03 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2009, 04:12:46 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2009, 05:44:40 PM »

Since I wasn't in to politics until 2004, I'll start from there:
2004:


I really think Bush clould have clobbered Kerry that year. I was hoping the 9/11 effect would have produced wins in NJ and DE, combined with winning every Kerry state less than 5%.

2008:
I knew from the start that Obama would probably win as Bush's approval ratings were really in the toilet throughout the second half of his second term. I was hoping for a more exciting, closer election than what had played out.


2012: GOP gets major gains in the senate in 2010 (ryan frazier-CO, note that) and that slows momentum down for Obama pushing through national health care and other liberal policies before we have time to actually look at it. I do think he'll get a second term, although if the economy still sucks, it will be a much closer race. I say we nominate Romney for 2012.



2016 is a tossup and people will probably be sick of obama. i don't think they're stupid enough to nominate biden, so they decide on a moderate. Let's say a moderate governor from the mid-atlantic...O'Malley (D-MD). GOP primary includes Jindal, Thune, Crist, and Ryan Frazier (who has now completed one term for senate). Ultimately the nomination goes to Thune. Thune/Jinal ticket in 2016. Close election, but still goes to the Dems (3rd in a row.)


2020 is the year of the BIG republican comeback. The 2020 GOP ticket is: Senator Ryan Frazier of Colorado and Governor Scott Walker of WIsconsin (the first black nominee of the Republican party). Let's say O'Malley has had approval ratings in the toilet and there is a small but thorough primary challenge.
The Frazier campaign pushes all the right buttons at the right time giving a substantial EC win.
Oh and a small liberal third-party challenge takes about 3% of the popular vote.


And in 2024, Popular President Frazier is re-elected in a landslide.



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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2009, 05:53:38 PM »

Since I wasn't in to politics until 2004, I'll start from there:
2004:


I really think Bush clould have clobbered Kerry that year. I was hoping the 9/11 effect would have produced wins in NJ and DE, combined with winning every Kerry state less than 5%.

2008:
I knew from the start that Obama would probably win as Bush's approval ratings were really in the toilet throughout the second half of his second term. I was hoping for a more exciting, closer election than what had played out.


2012: GOP gets major gains in the senate in 2010 (ryan frazier-CO, note that) and that slows momentum down for Obama pushing through national health care and other liberal policies before we have time to actually look at it. I do think he'll get a second term, although if the economy still sucks, it will be a much closer race. I say we nominate Romney for 2012.



2016 is a tossup and people will probably be sick of obama. i don't think they're stupid enough to nominate biden, so they decide on a moderate. Let's say a moderate governor from the mid-atlantic...O'Malley (D-MD). GOP primary includes Jindal, Thune, Crist, and Ryan Frazier (who has now completed one term for senate). Ultimately the nomination goes to Thune. Thune/Jinal ticket in 2016. Close election, but still goes to the Dems (3rd in a row.)


2020 is the year of the BIG republican comeback. The 2020 GOP ticket is: Senator Ryan Frazier of Colorado and Governor Scott Walker of WIsconsin (the first black nominee of the Republican party). Let's say O'Malley has had approval ratings in the toilet and there is a small but thorough primary challenge.
The Frazier campaign pushes all the right buttons at the right time giving a substantial EC win.
Oh and a small liberal third-party challenge takes about 3% of the popular vote.


And in 2024, Popular President Frazier is re-elected in a landslide.





wow I think you're the first republican to have democrats winning in 2008, 2012 and 2016!
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2009, 09:27:14 PM »

I gotta be honest, When I wrote this, I was thinking what I think would happen in the coming elections. My hopes of course are much different than three Dem elections in a row. But I think Ryan Frazier will be an up-and-coming future all-star of the GOP - Eisenhower material (just a personal dream of mine), and if it takes three or even four election cycles to get that, I'll be willing to wait Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2009, 11:56:31 PM »





Actual ones :

1992 : Bush wins



1996 : Jack Kemp is elected president




2000 : Decisive Bush win





2004 : Bush whoops Kerry's ass





2008 : Small Obama victory
(Best case scenario for McCain)




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