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« on: October 09, 2004, 07:38:16 pm »
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Where Democrats carry something like 44 states?

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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2004, 07:44:47 pm »
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Under say, a Scoop/Lieberman/Bayh type, but extremely charismatic and forceful. A younger Zell that actually got the nomination against Santorum?
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2004, 07:45:10 pm »
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It's possible, it depends on who is nominated by each party. If the Democrats nominate Barack Obama, the Republicans nominate a pro-choice moderate type, and an Independent runs a very Conservative campaign. There would have to be a third party involved.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2004, 08:03:22 pm »
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Under say, a Scoop/Lieberman/Bayh type, but extremely charismatic and forceful. A younger Zell that actually got the nomination against Santorum?

Zell Miller is NOT a Democrat
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2004, 08:40:17 pm »
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Zell Miller is NOT a Democrat

I'd challenge you to debate him on that.  I think you're confusing Democrat and Liberal.  In that case, Zell Miller is not a liberal, but he most certainly is a Democrat.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2004, 08:53:13 pm »
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Under say, a Scoop/Lieberman/Bayh type, but extremely charismatic and forceful. A younger Zell that actually got the nomination against Santorum?

Zell Miller is NOT a Democrat

Well, yes he is.  His party registration says so.

Whether or not there's a single Democrat that agrees with him is in debate, but whether or not he's a Democrat is not.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2004, 10:24:25 pm »
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He can call himself a Democrat all he wants, but what reason is there for him to be one? There is none, the same way there's no reason for me to call myself a Republican.
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2004, 10:28:21 pm »
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No, because Democrats can't win the rural west.

But of course Democrats can win pretty big, Clinton did in '96.
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2004, 10:31:10 pm »
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He can call himself a Democrat all he wants, but what reason is there for him to be one? There is none, the same way there's no reason for me to call myself a Republican.

Georgia has a Democrat-controlled legislature.

How many of them do you think agree with you?
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2004, 10:32:12 pm »
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No big landslides - too many christians.
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2004, 10:42:27 pm »
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Christians split 50/50, moron. Unlike other blocks of voters who split 90/10.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2004, 10:43:21 pm »
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Christians split 50/50, moron. Unlike other blocks of voters who split 90/10.

I mean the ones that actually mean it, not the ones who put that nonsense in proper perspective.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2004, 10:50:29 pm »
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It's true that the ones who don't mean it vote Democrat

What nonsense?
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2004, 11:37:35 pm »
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What nonsense?

Religion.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2004, 11:41:09 pm »
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I said what nonsense?
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2004, 11:42:44 pm »
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I say that anyone I wouldn't vote for is not a Democrat.

There is no condition in existance where I would vote for Zell Miller. I'd even vote for someone like Rick Santorum over him, since at least ultra-right wing Republicans have enough brain cells to realize what party they belong in.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2004, 11:43:56 pm »
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I said what nonsense?

And I answered.
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2004, 11:50:57 pm »
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No, because Democrats can't win the rural west.

But of course Democrats can win pretty big, Clinton did in '96.

wow, a fairly reasonable and not rididculously partisan biased post from you! I'm impressed!

Now if Democrats were as stupid as most Republicans, we probably would argue here "someone like Ben Nelson or even John Breaux could possibly win those way out west states". But since Democrats realize such a person could never win the nomination, unlike deluded Republicans who honestly think the Religious Right would let Guiliani be nominated. And no, I'm not referring to you in the second part.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2004, 11:55:58 pm »
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As mentioned earlier, Georgia has a Democrat-controlled legislature. So do many other southern states.

I guess you have more of a right than all those people to decide what the Democratic party is?
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2004, 12:01:56 am »
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As mentioned earlier, Georgia has a Democrat-controlled legislature. So do many other southern states.

I guess you have more of a right than all those people to decide what the Democratic party is?

How are those people different from Republicans?  I suppose having both major parties beholden to political Chrisitanity is a possibility.

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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2004, 12:03:03 am »
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They could say, what's the difference between you and a Republican?
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2004, 12:05:08 am »
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They could say, what's the difference between you and a Republican?

Who me?  A revulsion to theocracy I suppose.  I do like the right-wing economics, of course.
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2004, 12:11:01 am »
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I want to make prostitution, drug use, and gambling legal. I want to end the anti- smoking legislation and the FCC.

That makes me a supporter of theocracy?

Anyway, you can call them false Democrats, but they could call you a false Democrat as well.
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2004, 05:45:00 pm »
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I want to make prostitution, drug use, and gambling legal. I want to end the anti- smoking legislation and the FCC.


All good positions, none of which is furthered by voting Republican.
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2004, 05:55:23 pm »
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Yes it is possible.  I mean take the South for instance, I'm sure the people right after the Civil War down there, and for years and years after vowed to never vote Republican.  Now look at them, it most certainly is possible because Party ideals change, and with them trends.  If, by some shot the Democrats turn conservative and fit my views, sure I'll vote for 'em.  I am actually planning on voting from one Democrat here.  Anyway, that's my take.

As to opebo, what's your deal with Christians?  Why do you attack us so much?  I don't think you'd attack a racial minority in the same way, constantly.  I don't think you'd let anyone get away with that either.  But you continue to attack Christians, and it's a double standard of yours, a baseless one as well.
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