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« on: July 23, 2009, 12:59:31 pm »
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There have been threads about this before, but this time I'll try it for real.

AL-1: Mobile
AL-2: Montgomery
AL-3: East Alabama
AL-4: Decatur—Gadsden
AL-5: North Alabama
AL-6: Outer Birmingham
AL-7: Birmingham—Tuscaloosa
AK-AL: Alaska
AZ-1: Northeast Arizona
AZ-2: Northwest Arizona
AZ-3: Phoenix North
AZ-4: Phoenix South
AZ-5: Scottsdale—Tempe
AZ-6: Chandler—Mesa
AZ-7: Southwest Arizona
AZ-8: Cochise—Tucson
AR-1: Arkansas Delta
AR-2: Little Rock
AR-3: Northwest Arkansas
AR-4: South Arkansas
CA-1: Napa—North Coast
CA-2: Redding
CA-3: Outer Sacramento
CA-4: Northeast California
CA-5: Sacramento
CA-6: Marin—Sonoma
CA-7: Richmond—Vacaville
CA-8: San Francisco
CA-9: Oakland
CA-10: Fairfield—Livermore
CA-11: Dublin—Tracy
CA-12: San Mateo
CA-13: Alameda—Fremont
CA-14: Redwood City
CA-15: San Jose West
CA-16: San Jose East
CA-17: Monterey
CA-18: San Joaquin West
CA-19: Yosemite
CA-20: Fresno
CA-21: San Joaquin East
CA-22: Bakersfield
CA-23: Central Coast—Channel Islands
CA-24: Santa Ynez
CA-25: Inner California
CA-26: San Gabriel Valley
CA-27: San Fernando West
CA-28: San Fernando East
CA-29: Glendale—Pasadena
CA-30: Santa Monica
CA-31: Los Angeles Center
CA-32: East Los Angeles
CA-33: Culver City
CA-34: Huntington Park
CA-35: Inglewood
CA-36: Torrance—Venice
CA-37: Long Beach
CA-38: Norwalk—Pomona
CA-39: Lynwood
CA-40: Orange North
CA-41: Inland Empire
CA-42: Los Angeles—Orange
CA-43: San Bernardino
CA-44: Orange—Riverside
CA-45: Riverside
CA-46: Santa Catalina
CA-47: Santa Ana
CA-48: Orange South
CA-49: Oceanside—Temecula
CA-50: Escondido
CA-51: Chula Vista—Imperial
CA-52: San Diego East
CA-53: San Diego
CO-1: Denver
CO-2: Boulder
CO-3: West Colorado
CO-4: East Colorado
CO-5: Colorado Springs
CO-6: Aurora—Littleton
CO-7: Outer Denver
CT-1: Hartford
CT-2: East Connecticut
CT-3: New Haven
CT-4: Fairfield
CT-5: Northwest Connecticut
DE-AL: Delaware
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 01:38:58 pm »
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There have been threads about this before, but this time I'll try it for real.

AL-1: Mobile
AL-2: Montgomery
AL-3: East Alabama
AL-4: Decatur—Gadsden
AL-5: North Alabama
AL-6: Outer Birmingham
AL-7: Birmingham—Tuscaloosa
AK-AL: Alaska
AZ-1: Northeast Arizona
AZ-2: Northwest Arizona
AZ-3: Phoenix North
AZ-4: Phoenix South
AZ-5: Scottsdale—Tempe
AZ-6: Chandler—Mesa
AZ-7: Southwest Arizona
AZ-8: Cochise—Tucson
AR-1: Arkansas Delta
AR-2: Little Rock
AR-3: Northwest Arkansas
AR-4: South Arkansas
Neat! Sounds much cooler this way as in England.

Gets to be difficult when constituencies are gerrymandered into odd geographical mishmashes though.

Try mine for example: OH-4
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 01:51:54 pm »
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The Voting Rights Act districts should be fun. Negroes of Maryland perhaps...
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 02:40:07 pm »
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The Voting Rights Act districts should be fun. Negroes of Maryland perhaps...

The Earmuffs Empire of Chicago.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 03:20:47 pm »
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Don't they sometimes, especially in Australia, name them after famous residents of the constituency/near-by area?
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Don't they sometimes, especially in Australia, name them after famous residents of the constituency/near-by area?

In the US, that would probably result in them being named for their current congresspeople...

(Quebec also does that sometimes, both federally and provincially. It's also worth pointing out that the em-dash is Canadian style; in Britain, they would use "and" instead.)
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 09:07:45 pm »
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There have been threads about this before, but this time I'll try it for real.

AL-1: Mobile
AL-2: Montgomery
AL-3: East Alabama
AL-4: Decatur—Gadsden
AL-5: North Alabama
AL-6: Outer Birmingham
AL-7: Birmingham—Tuscaloosa
AK-AL: Alaska
AZ-1: Northeast Arizona
AZ-2: Northwest Arizona
AZ-3: Phoenix North
AZ-4: Phoenix South
AZ-5: Scottsdale—Tempe
AZ-6: Chandler—Mesa
AZ-7: Southwest Arizona
AZ-8: Cochise—Tucson
AR-1: Arkansas Delta
AR-2: Little Rock
AR-3: Northwest Arkansas
AR-4: South Arkansas
Neat! Sounds much cooler this way as in England.

Gets to be difficult when constituencies are gerrymandered into odd geographical mishmashes though.

Try mine for example: OH-4

Lima-Mansfield seems appropriate for OH-4.  Its not pretty but it could be worse.  OH-6, OH-13, and OH-18 are the worst ones.
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 09:43:41 pm »
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Don't they sometimes, especially in Australia, name them after famous residents of the constituency/near-by area?

In the US, that would probably result in them being named for their current congresspeople...

(Quebec also does that sometimes, both federally and provincially. It's also worth pointing out that the em-dash is Canadian style; in Britain, they would use "and" instead.)

Yes (federally, state-wise they're all named after locations) - we name some after geographic locations and some after famous people.

http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Guideline.htm
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Origin_Current_Division.htm
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Origin_Abolished_Division.htm

The famous people have to be dead in order to qualify. Sometimes they're named after an explorer through the area (eg. Leichardt, Bass, Cunningham), social workers (eg. Chisholm), Prime Ministers (very common), other famous politicians such as Premiers or Leaders of the Opposition, even poets (see the proposed new Queensland electorate announced today in a disgusting gerrymander of Wright, named after poet Judith Wright).
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2009, 09:48:00 pm »
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The Voting Rights Act districts should be fun. Negroes of Maryland perhaps...

The Earmuffs Empire of Chicago.

IL-17 is a fun one, too.
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I hate districts with names of people. I don't know why it has become so popular in Quebec.

Anyways, I remember doing this when I first joined the Atlas. It certainly had its moments.
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Don't they sometimes, especially in Australia, name them after famous residents of the constituency/near-by area?

In the US, that would probably result in them being named for their current congresspeople...

(Quebec also does that sometimes, both federally and provincially. It's also worth pointing out that the em-dash is Canadian style; in Britain, they would use "and" instead.)

Yes (federally, state-wise they're all named after locations) - we name some after geographic locations and some after famous people.

http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Guideline.htm
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Origin_Current_Division.htm
http://www.aec.gov.au/Electorates/Electoral_DPM/Origin_Abolished_Division.htm

The famous people have to be dead in order to qualify. Sometimes they're named after an explorer through the area (eg. Leichardt, Bass, Cunningham), social workers (eg. Chisholm), Prime Ministers (very common), other famous politicians such as Premiers or Leaders of the Opposition, even poets (see the proposed new Queensland electorate announced today in a disgusting gerrymander of Wright, named after poet Judith Wright).

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Another cool project would be giving names to the Australian divisions.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 03:58:07 am »
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There's actually a British constituency named after a person rather than a geographical location; Islwyn (the pen-name of 19th century poet William Thomas) in South Wales.
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Oh. I thought that was some obscure geographic term for the area.
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Oh. I thought that was some obscure geographic term for the area.

An obscure term for part of the area is Mynyddislwyn (which is what Thomas took Islwyn from). But until the 1974 local government vandalism, "Islwyn" on its own was only associated with the poet.
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There have been threads about this before, but this time I'll try it for real.

AL-1: Mobile
AL-2: Montgomery
AL-3: East Alabama
AL-4: Decatur—Gadsden
AL-5: North Alabama
AL-6: Outer Birmingham
AL-7: Birmingham—Tuscaloosa
AK-AL: Alaska
AZ-1: Northeast Arizona
AZ-2: Northwest Arizona
AZ-3: Phoenix North
AZ-4: Phoenix South
AZ-5: Scottsdale—Tempe
AZ-6: Chandler—Mesa
AZ-7: Southwest Arizona
AZ-8: Cochise—Tucson
AR-1: Arkansas Delta
AR-2: Little Rock
AR-3: Northwest Arkansas
AR-4: South Arkansas
Neat! Sounds much cooler this way as in England.

Gets to be difficult when constituencies are gerrymandered into odd geographical mishmashes though.

Try mine for example: OH-4

Lima-Mansfield seems appropriate for OH-4.  Its not pretty but it could be worse.  OH-6, OH-13, and OH-18 are the worst ones.
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« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2009, 09:54:24 pm »
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I hate districts with names of people. I don't know why it has become so popular in Quebec.

Anyways, I remember doing this when I first joined the Atlas. It certainly had its moments.

By the way, Elections Canada is talking of the ''March 9, 2009'' 40th general election!

http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=ele&dir=40ge&document=index&lang=e&textonly=false
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Let me continue this list-
Names probably suck because of rapid growth and corruption on top of it (gerrymandering)

FL-01 - West Florida
FL-02- Pensacola
FL-03- St. John's-University of Florida
FL-04- Lake City
FL-05- Nature Coast
FL-06- Ocala Forest
FL-07- St.Augustine
FL-08- Orlando
FL-09- Clearwater-Thonotosasa
FL-10- Rural Pinellas
FL-11- Tampa Bay
FL-12- Lakeland
FL-13- Sarasota-Brandenton
FL-14- Naples
FL-15- St.Cloud-Atlantic
FL-16- Palm Beach-Okeechobee
FL-17- North Miami
FL-18- Miami-Keys
FL-19- Coral Springs- North
FL-20- Ft. Lauderdale
FL-21- Haileah
FL-22- North Gold Coast
FL-23- Pompano- Okeechobee
FL-24- Space Coast
FL-25- Crocodile Bay

Georgia
GA-1- South Savanah
GA-2- Southest Georgia
GA-3- Western Georgia
GA-4- East Atlanta
GA-5- Atlanta
GA-6- North Atlanta
GA-7- Exurban North Atlanta
GA-8- Macon
GA-9- Georgia Mountain Zone
GA-10- Athens
GA-11- Northeastern Georgia
GA-12- Savanah
GA-13- South Atlanta

Hawaii

HI-1- North Hawaii
HI-2- Oahu

Idaho-
ID-1- Teton West Slope
ID-2- Couer D'Arlene-Boise

Illinois-
IL-1- Nearer Eastern Chicago
IL-2- Further Eastern Chicago
IL-3- South Chicago
IL-4- Chicago Centro
IL-5- Chicago Northlake
IL-6- Northeast Chicago Exurbs
IL-7- Northern Chicago
IL-8- Northern Chicago Exurbs
IL-9- Northen Chicaho Suburbs
IL-10- North Chicago
IL-11- Bloomington-Normal
IL-12- East St. Louis
IL-13- Southwestern Chicago
IL-14- Aurora
IL-15- Champaign
IL-16- Rockford
IL-17- Quad Cities
IL-18- Springfeild
IL-19- Mount Vernon
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 12:52:21 am »
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More names:

CO-2: Hippies of the west
CO-5: The we're almost as radical as the Mormons district
MN-6: WTF
AZ-2: So gerrymandered it's not even funny
CA-30: Rats

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I like the Australian system, because it's inclusive. Take my seat for example - its current name is Melbourne Ports, which is ridiculous because it doesn't even include the current main port, although it did at federation - it linked the naval base at williamstown through the yarra mouth docks to Port Melbourne, which was the main passenger dock as well as important for shipping. Now, it heads along the beach to the southeastern suburbs. Even if the name had changed over time, it'd be something like Caulfield-St. Kilda-South Melbourne, excluding all the other localities within the seat. Changing it something like "Crean", "Whitlam" or "Cheng" would be great - or at least "Hobson's Bay" or "Port Phillip".
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Suggestions for SC:

SC-1:Charleston-Grand Strand
SC-2:Midlands-Lower Savannah River
SC-3:Upper Savannah River
SC-4:Greenville-Spartanburg
SC-5:Northern South Carolina
SC-6:Lowcountry
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Illinois-
IL-1- Nearer Eastern Chicago
IL-2- Further Eastern Chicago
IL-3- South Chicago
IL-4- Chicago Centro
IL-5- Chicago Northlake
IL-6- Northeast Chicago Exurbs
IL-7- Northern Chicago
IL-8- Northern Chicago Exurbs
IL-9- Northen Chicaho Suburbs
IL-10- North Chicago
IL-11- Bloomington-Normal
IL-12- East St. Louis
IL-13- Southwestern Chicago
IL-14- Aurora
IL-15- Champaign
IL-16- Rockford
IL-17- Quad Cities
IL-18- Springfeild
IL-19- Mount Vernon

I'd make a few changes to your list for IL:

IL-1- Nearer Eastern Chicago (Chicago South Side): This is really the heart of the south side going into South Cook. It would be confusing to put any compass direction in front of "Chicago" since there are suburbs that use that form.

IL-2- Further Eastern Chicago (Chicago South Shore): East Chicago is in IN, so it's confusing here. The lake is an easy reference and the district even includes a neighborhood known as South Shore.

IL-3- South Chicago (Chicago Midway): The Chicago parts of this district are never called south, but they are called southwest. Midway airport is centrally located and is a frequent reference name for the neighborhoods in that area, though if you used Chicago-Southwest Cook I wouldn't complain.

IL-4- Chicago Centro (Chicago Logan Square-Cicero): Your name is cute, but it isn't really the center which is in CD-7. Logan Square is the dominant neighborhood in the northern piece and Cicero (10th largest in IL) is the largest non-Chicago community on the south piece of the district, though you could just as easily use the neighborhood name and call it Chicago Logan Square - Little Village.

IL-5- Chicago Northlake (Chicago North Side): Northlake isn't that big, and not much of the district is outside the city. There's a lot of separate neighborhood names I might choose from, but north side says it pretty well.

IL-6- Northeast Chicago Exurbs (DuPage): The suburbs here aren't in the northeast, if anything they include a large part of what are called the northwest and west suburbs. These are also not exurbs - those are currently in CDs 11, 14 and 16 a good 20 miles farther out than CD 6. DuPage County dominates the district and is a pretty clear choice for this district unless you want to use Wheaton which is the county seat and largest city in the district.

IL-7- Northern Chicago (Chicago West Side): There's nothing northern about this district. I could use the dominant neighborhood and call it Chicago Austin (over 100 K residents), but west side is pretty clear.

IL-8- Northern Chicago Exurbs (Schaumburg): The McHenry and far northern Lake parts of the district are exurban, but a lot of the population is in northwest Cook County. Schaumburg anchors NW Cook, is the 16th largest community in IL, and is the 2nd largest job center in the state after the Loop.

IL-9- Northen Chicaho Suburbs (Evanston): Northern Chicago Suburbs suggests parts of CD 8 and 10 to the locals here. Evanston or Evanston-North Cook would describe this better.

IL-10- North Chicago (Waukegan-Arlington Heights) Waukegan (9th largest in IL) and Arlington Heights (14th largest) are both much more significant communities than North Chicago and they nicely anchor ends of the district.

IL-11- Bloomington-Normal (Joliet): B-N is at the end of a gerrymander and is not that significant to the district. This is the Will County seat and Joliet is the 4th largest city in the state.

IL-12- East St. Louis: Not a bad choice, but if a hyphen was used East St. Louis-Carbondale would give a better sense of the scope of the district.

IL-13- Southwestern Chicago (Naperville): Naperville is the fifth largest city in the state and dominates the district with almost a quarter of the population.

IL-14- Aurora (Aurora-Elgin): Elgin (8th largest in IL) is almost as significant of a community as Aurora in the district, especially since the DuPage part of Aurora is in IL 13. If you had to go with one, Aurora is the right choice.

IL-15- Champaign: Good choice

IL-16- Rockford: Good choice

IL-17- Quad Cities: Good choice

IL-18- Springfeild (Peoria): Springfield is fairly evenly split between IL-18 and 19 with a block-wide slice of IL-17 down the middle. Peoria is the dominant city in the district.

IL-19- Mount Vernon (Southern Illinois): There's no dominant community in this district, and a big chunk of the population is in the Metro East suburbs of St. Louis. I'd go with the generic name.
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FL-09- Clearwater-Thonotosasa
FL-10- Rural Pinellas

FL-09- Rural Greece to Rural Biblebelt
FL-10- Beachfront and Bayside

I'd hardly call FL 10 rural. That's hilarious to say the least. And you spelled Thonotosassa wrong.
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Many of the names presented are fail. muon seems to understand how this works, though.
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New Jersey:
1 - Camden
2 - South Jersey
3 - Cherry Hill-Long Beach
4 - Trenton-Point Pleasant
5 - North Bergen-Phillipsburg
6 - New Brunswick-Asbury Park
7 - Union-North Hunterdon
8 - Paterson
9 - South Bergen
10 - Newark
11 - Morris
12 - Princeton
13 - Hudson

It's hard when most of them stretch across the state joining completely unrelated areas.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2009, 12:35:09 am »
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Oh yay, this sounds fun! Can I submit Missouri? I don't know if I did it right, but here goes! Smiley

MO-01: St. Louis City - University City, Maryland Heights, Florissant
MO-02: St. Louis Suburbs - St. Charles, St. Peters, Chesterfield, Kirkwood
MO-03: Southern St. Louis & Suburbs - Webster Groves, Oakville, Mehlville, Arnold, Festus, Ste. Genevieve
MO-04: West Central - Jefferson City, Sedalia, Warrensburg, Marshall, Lebanon
MO-05: Kansas City - Independence, Raytown, Lees Summit
MO-06: Northwest - St. Joseph, Blue Springs, Liberty, Maryville, Excelsior Springs
MO-07: Southwest - Springfield, Joplin, Neosho, Carthage, Branson
MO-08: Southeast - Cape Girardeau, Rolla, Sikeston, Poplar Bluff, Farmington, Jackson, West Plains, Kennett
MO-09: Northeast - Columbia, Moberly, Hannibal, Kirksville
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